great post. ;-)

New clichè - "being transparent"
blech.
Actually should be "being opaque" meaning, I'm not going to let you see right through me, I am going to let you see just enough that you think you got it figured out.

Telling a candidate their status has been determined on the spot, in an interview, is not transparency it irresponsibility. You’ve just told the interviewee that one conversation is being used to determine fitness for employment and one person is able to make the unilateral hiring decision. A good employment lawyer could use such practices to start a decent EEOC case. I bet your hot-shot HR friend is violating the policies of the Company that can not be Named.

You're right, the most efficient thing is to move on to the next opp.

That said, it's damn rude of anyone to treat a fellow human being like that. And I say that as the guy who does the interviewing. I always, always make time to call every candidate I interviewed to give him/her the basic courtesy of knowing the outcome. It's the respectful, professional thing to do. Almost always the ones who do not get the position thank me for taking the time to contact them.

We're a bunch of rude asses anymore, aren't we?

Another reason for that is organizations sometimes have 2-3 rounds of interviews for which 10 or more people are considered.

After an interview very few interviewers are clear that they are definitely hiring that person. They choose to see the other 9 and after all the interviews are through they make the final choice.

A few people of the 10 might be clearly not a fit for the role. Most people are 60-90% fit on knowledge skills and experience required for the role, and interviewers can't take that call unless they meet all the candidates.

If the position is a very critical one, organizations might actually assess the candidates weren't sourced well and they need to cast their net wider.

Of course, not getting back to a candidate and informing them of where the process is, is very inefficient. So candidates have to also call back their recruiters and demanding an update.

regards,
Gautam

and I guess who the contributor of the post is ;)

Sometimes the suitability of a candidate IS determined in one conversation. Oh, you don't really have any experience in field sampling? Your degree isn't really in Wildlife Biology but in Communications? Sorry, but the job requires the degree and the experience.
The Human Resources people and the lawyers usually won't let the interviewers or the hiring manager tell the applicant that he is wasting his time and the company's, but it would be better for all concerned if they could.

I've been on both sides. After interviewing, I always got back to all the candidates to thank them for coming in, let them know another candidate had been hired, and wish them luck in their job search. It really doesn't take that much time.

I can't tell you how many interviews I've been in (sometimes second interviews, and interviews where I had to prepare a formal presentation, or graphic design work) where the interviewer closes with "we'll get back to you by the end of next week either way) and NEVER ever calls. And then avoids the call if I call to follow up.

Bottom line, don't tell someone you're going to call them if you're not sure you are.

And for interviewees, when the interviewer says he'll call to let you know "either way" take it with the same grain of salt you would if your lukewarm date says "I'll call you sometime"

I have to agree with Jim C. on this one. Sometimes people just obviously don't fit. Period. Sometimes you can tell that about 3 minutes into an interview.

Of course, most HR people (including me in a former life) often play nice and let the person leave feeling all warm and fuzzy about a job that simply isn't going to happen. And the candidate waits around for a call that doesn't come like some girl in a bygone decade who believed all the "I love yous" utter on the back seat of their date's dad's Dodge.

Obviously there are some people who would try make an EEOC case where there truly is none. And sometimes a snap decision is made for all the wrong reasons.

On the other hand, there has to be - no; there IS - a happy medium between wasting (at least) two adult's time and humanely letting someone know that - for purely professional reasons - you "just aren't that into them".

Great, useful post. And clear, unmuddled thinking from your anonymous source.

Even before writing a thank you note or placing a followup call or two, a candidate should (if they're thinking fast) ask the honest interviewer for some additional candor: "what can I do in the future to be a more presentable/acceptable/attractive candidate for this organization? What advice do you have for me on my interviewing skills/resume presentation/experience?"

Again, great post and great advice.

A piece of advice I've given friends regarding obtaining a response (and closure on a job prospect if it is dead) is to ask at the end of the interview about the timing of the interview/hiring process and when they can expect to hear back. If the candidate doesn't hear by that date, he or she should follow up. At this point the answer is likely "no" but it's better to know this and move on. The interviewee needs to empower themselves in this process.

On HR people believing there is no consequence to ignoring interviewees — I'd disagree, at least for some industries and cities. If there is a talent shortage, you don't want to burn a bridge with someone who simply lacks experience for the position in question as 2-3 years from now they may have experience. Or, they may be appropriate for another job at the company. Also, if you don't hire them, another company will — and this company could be a key client. If you've treated them poorly, they'll remember and even tell their new boss.

Bottom line, you never know who will be important to your network. So it's risky to treat anyone unprofessionally.

I often wonder about the longer term affects of poorly treating candidates.

I've had a few interviews with big companies where the HR people were rude, abrupt and unprofessional. I expected the same excellence from interviewers that I expect from their product. When I don't get it, it degrades my impression of the company.

It's not sour grapes, telling me I'm not a good fit is fine, but leading me on or not returning calls or not closing the process makes me wonder what your firm will be like to do business with.

Ask people about their negative experiences and they can always tell you the name of the company, what the position was.

It's always easy to call or send an email saying "Thank you for your time, unfortunately you aren't a fit for us, good luck" leaving the candidate disappointed in the short term but not bitter.

The truth is, as some people have pointed out, it's a small world and if I'm looking for work I could very well start working with your biggest client and our relationship would already be slightly damaged.

Jim C and Trina are right. Fitness can be determined in three minutes in one interview. The issue I am pointing out is the appearance that determination is made on the spot. It leaves room for argument that qualifications were not the reason for the decision. Have you ever heard the one about the attractive female walking into an interview with a male and hearing "You're Hired"? Unilateral, on the spot, hiring decisions; real or not, should never be a part of a sound HR hiring process.

When I'm job hunting I certainly appreciate hearing back that the job's been filled, but really, what difference does it make? You don't stop job hunting because you're waiting to hear from someone else. If you don't get a call, you didn't get the job. It's simple enough.

The exception would be if someone said they would call you to let you know - Then it's really rude if they don't.

I have been in situations when I didn't get a call back, and it is extremely annoying. I still remember one of the companies that did it to me (after 3 rounds of interviews and a trip for an evaluations at a psychologist's office, which usually suggests that unless you're a serial killer, you should be expecting an offer). I haven't heard anything from them, and had to contact an acquaintance who worked for that company who had to make the HR person get back to me. They probably had some changes in funding or something unexpected came up that did not allow them to offer me a position then, but how difficult is it to drop an email - sorry, we're still not ready to give you an answer, sorry, but we decided to hire somebody else? Granted, I was looking for my first job out of college, but as companies do this to more in-demand experienced professionals, they have to be careful that such behavior is not going to backfire.

Great post. I'm job-hunting at the moment (my least favorite thing in the world) and just had a recruiter do this to me except I received an automated email telling me the position was filled. I emailed her back:

"I must admit, I was hoping to receive a more personal notification of this than an email. I understand that you're busy, however, so please don't think there are any hard feelings. I am still very much interested in XXXXXX as a company and would like to speak with you about any other openings you have. When is a good time to meet with you?"

This didn't get me a response, but after a phone call the next day, she got back to me. She recommended another position within the company that I had overlooked and she considered me more qualified for. We'll see if I get it…

If you want a call back after an interview and the recruiter is a professional, you'll get it, but you might have to work for it.

Wendy, not many HR think like you do but I agree with you. Interview works both ways - for employers to screen employees and potential employees to check if the employers (or rather interviewers in some cases) are suitable with their personality, experiences, skills, etc.

I've had an interviewer who said, "It's just our way to test people who apply. If they don't contact us after interview, they are not interested. Even if we said we'd call them." That's plain rude, misleading and misconduct to me.

It sucks especially when you really want the job and hope you'll get it but received nothing at all and your calls are not returned. Too bad for the employers. Take your talent elsewhere, where they are appreciated :D It's not worth working for those people anyway!

Where I work we are often late getting back to applicants. That usually means we are interested ironically and can not decide whether to pull the trigger. Sometimes we will hire someone who is not a fit for the specific advertised job because they we were so impressing we assume we will find a fit. A tricky proposition for firms under seventy-five people. I read your post primarily as a reminder to be professional to all applicants and remember to get back to them promptly so they can move on. We try not to interview people whose resume's do not appear to offer sufficient talent for the position and concentrate on people who have interested us. The thankyou idea has been used by some we have seen. My advice is to learn to showcase your talent. The talents can be about anything from good people skills to technical expertise. We look for and hire talent. We will train the talented applicant even if we think it is preparing them for a future elsewhere as we can make it profitable for us in the meantime anyway.

I say a couple follow up calls and if you still get nothing, move on. If they end up calling you and you are still looking than try to hook up with them again. I try not to let the HR department dictate how the whole company runs. If you have another job offer or have already started a job and they call you back, it's as easy as telling them you accepted another job but to keep your resume on file. Keep the bridge open if at all possible.

As a recruiter, I have low tolerance for people that make a commitment (I'll be in touch . . .") and don't follow through on that commitment, so I applaud your HR friend's willingness and ability to be clear when they're not planning a next step with a particular candidate. I also talk to alot of candidates, so I hear ALOT of the same candidate complaints that you write about. I think, though, that there are questions candidates can ask the interviewer to get a more realistic assessment as to whether or not they'll be advanced in the process. Example: "I've enjoyed our conversation today, and I'm eager to continue in the process. Based on what you've learned today, what's your assessment as to whether or not I'll be advancing in the process?" Generally, conflict avoiding people aside, interviewers will take this opening to set low expectations if they don't think it's likely that they'll be advancing the candidate. As a candidate, this question might get you an honest answer, and might make you feel less like a victim.

Ahhh, interview etiquette! A great topic that, although it can take up an entire “Seinfeld” episode (Was it already?), is nonetheless a cause of much consternation among job seekers. Let’s face it: Each side of the interview has a responsibility here. The recruiter or hiring manager should have a good idea of whether a candidate has the chops for the job before even calling him or her in for an interview. That’s the purpose of a well constructed resume. Any resume that fails to meet at least a minimum level of criteria for the job shouldn’t get more than a cursory read. The interviewee, meanwhile, needs to make sure that he or she comes away from an interview with a clear sense of what the employer’s next steps are. That’s only fair because it’s the job seeker who usually has the tougher time making room in his or her schedule to set up interviews. Absent that sense of “what happens next,” the interviewee needs to demonstrate interest in the position and the company by telling the recruiter when he or she will follow up. Bottom line: I’ve always had more respect for companies that replied promptly, say, within three business days. Even if you don’t get the job, the company’s professionalism may be enough to keep it in consideration for another position later on.

While I agree that employers can do more in this, I thik a lot of this is up to interviewees as well. I definitely agree with Penelope's points on being proactive. Here's another thought: Taking time and having the initiative at the end of the interview and ask candidly "what is your next step?" can sometimes open up the doors to this open communication.

I've heard some companies send out form letters telling people they aren't hired. I'm not sure that's any better.

I will occasionally tell a candidate on the spot that I don't believe they're right for the position, but more often then not I won't do it in the moment and instead will follow up with an email rejection. (But I ALWAYS follow up one way or another; I'd never just not get back to them.) The reason I usually don't issue the rejection right there in the phone interview or in-person interview is because some candidates will try to argue with you about it and I hate that. I think I'm about to write a post on my blog about this, in fact!

In thinking of past interviews, I realize that I have received strong indications of the eventual outcome.

For example, I have had two interviews where at the end the interviewer has whispered that she has a "hunch" that I will get an offer. And I did. Another successful interview concluded with a personal tour of the grounds plus an unsolicited ride to the train station, both by the head of the department. Others have ended with scheduling the subsequent interview.

As for my many fruitless interviews, I now see that I have always left them feeling some form of uncertainty or disappointment, even if I can't put my finger on exactly why. Common red flags include the interviewer being vague about when they will be deciding or mentioning the many other candidates.

My point is that interviewers usually let you know, directly or indirectly, if you will get a call. Look for clues and tap into your intuition.

Once I was chief-of-staff to an engineering director, and we were on a hiring spree. We did dozens of interviews and if the director liked a candidate, we called them back right away. However if he was neutral or negative on a candidate, he never got back to them. I pushed him hard to give them some kind of answer but his logic was that he wanted to keep his options open, and by leaving the candidates hanging he could come back to them if he changed his mind later.

BTW Penelope I find there are fewer and fewer people who want to work for that anonymous company any more. There are too many stories going around about their employees who feel compelled to take their Palm Pilots to the gym with them so they can stay connected even during their workouts. More and more of their people are leaving them, and people are starting to reject employment offers from them. I think they're becoming the David Hasselhoff of employers.

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Melanie, thanks for the delightfully cryptic insiders information: Job hunters beware! (And, I have heard the same…)
–Penelope

As a manager currently undertaking a job hunt, I've experienced both sides. It's completely feasible for a manager to know if a candidate won't be a good fit after one meeting. That's also completely the call of that one person (the hiring manager). If they are courageous enough to notify the person then and there, that's great! For those managers who base a decision purely on attractiveness, they will get what they deserve. I can't imagine that manager will be successful for long.

As an interviewee, I've run into the automated rejections months after applying, no responses and personalized phone calls. My best experience has been with a recruiter at a company I've targeted. After conducting an informational interview with him, he's assisted in tracking down potential positions, setting up interviews and calling me within a few days with specific feedback. Unfortunately, he's an exception, but it makes me want to work more for a company that hires someone like that to represent them.

Yep, no two ways about it…Recruiters turn wimpy at the most inconvenient time (the end of the interview). We cannot afford to continue perpetuating such an awful interview experience (candidate experience) and expect that it does us any favors.

The negative WOM impact should be enough to make us (recruiting community) want to come clean and do the unthinkable…be honest.

Interview for enough jobs and you will learn how to tell faux warmth from real warmth.

And Lizriz is right, you're still looking elsewhere, right? Make it, at least in your own mind, that THEY are the ones chasing YOU, not the other way around.

Sure, maybe employers should let you know, "No dice," but they don't and it is truly a waste of energy to worry about it.

The last line sums it all up! Why not send out a thank you note to find out how things are going! That helps build tremendous rapport, even if you aren't going to be selected for the job!

Great post.

I have found that how someone treats you in the interview process is a great indicator of how they operate normally. So I'd prefer someone to be totally up front with good or bad feedback than to pansy around and be vague.

I've worked with a number of people, especially women that others would call "bitchy" or "speaks her mind too much" yet I loved working with these people because I ALWAYS knew where I stood with them. If I screwed something up, they would tell me. If I did something good, they would tell me. In my book that beats the silent evasive type any day.

(of course it goes without saying that they speak directly what is on their mind but in a respectful way…)

You should give your well-placed, hot-shot human resource friend, your resume. You suck at writing.

I've had two situations where the interviewer didn't follow up and then, when I emailed back, it ultimately resulted in a job. And I've had a few weird situations where a company wasted a day of my life and then I had to bug them to get an official rejection.

I think it is pointless to speculate about what is going on in their heads. It could be anything. Penelope, you can probably give specific advice on timing, but in general, you've got nothing to lose by following up yourself. If they think you are a desparate loser, then they were not going to hire you anyway. I've never heard anybody talk about how "we didn't hire him because he seemed too eager to work here." or "He would have been perfect for the job, but he kept bugging me, so I had to hire an unqualified person instead."

I think it should be self-evident that if they don't call you back they're not interested but here is where the grey area comes in…You interview and the interveiwer emails you back saying you are a top candidate - be ready to fly out in the next week for the third interview and then they never call you. This is where it gets super rude.

I had this experience a couple of years ago. After that I became better at qualifing the employer and their intentions during the interview.

I completely agree with the concept of sending a thank you note. Recently I interviewed for a freelance position which wasn't really a good fit for me. However, I did send a thank you note and received a positive response letting me know that they would contact me in the future. Sowing seeds takes time.

Ben??? You received a rejection e-mail and you replied saying "When is a good time to meet with you"??????????????????????????????????????

You can't be too pushy like that! It's a complete turn-off. I'm no recruiter but I think I understand the etiquette of all this. Please for your own good (unless you're in sales or a pushy position) don't go overboard like this.

Also, I've never ever NOT received a response from an interview. However, my position is technical and the interviews are typically 3 hours to a day long so after that type of investment I suppose one would get back to the applicant.

BEN.. ur crazy.

Get over it.

If someone doesn't call you back, THEY DON'T WANT YOU!!! If it really bother you that much, give your interviewer a follow up call/e-mail.

When i was in the job market I applied and searched for jobs until I got an offer letter; having, a seemingly good interview should not stop your search activities.

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This really does get to the heart of the issue. I think people get upset about no callback because they are waiting, and they want to know if they should stop waiting. But if you want a new job, then you have to keep looking. You can't stop looking every time you have a good interview.

-Penelope

I think this whole issue can be avoided if job seekers limit themselves to only applying for jobs where they can make a strong case for themselves.

Once you have identified openings where you are a naturally good fit for the position, then you need to go in to the interview with the attitude that this is your job for taking.

Take control of the interview process by asking as many questions about the position as they ask about you. Say things like "In my previous work experience, I excelled in situations where I ______, it's my understand from the job posting that this position is going to require a lot of ____, is that correct?" or "My educational background in ______ has taught me a lot about _____, would this be an asset to someone in the position?"

Of course you already know the answers to all these questions because you applied for a position where you knew and met (or at least came very close to meeting) the position requirements. Remember, you are looking for the best fit for YOU first and foremost, not to trying to mold yourself into a position you aren't suited for.

At the end of the interview, if it's a job you want and are suited for, say something like, "based on our discussion today, I think this opportunity really fits into what I am looking for, when should I follow up with you yo confirm things". If they are vague at that point (which they shouldn`t be, unless there were some interview surprises), or say that they will call you, then you are probably not getting the job. Follow up once or twice in the following weeks if it is something you really want and believe you are suited for.

I have followed this game plan my whole life, I`m 24, have probably had about 10-15 jobs and have only been turned down once after an interview.

This is all very well if the buck stops with you.

In many cases, however, an interviewer is not the final decision-maker, and so cannot tell the candidate that they are not likely to get the job …

… or even if they /are/ the final decision-maker, they want to consult with the other people who interviewed the candidate before making a final decision. That's not weakness, in my opinion. I think it is a strength to not be above considering the input of your people.

Anyhow, just some thoughts. It just seems like the article was a bit sweeping in its generality.

I make it a point to inform the outcome to candidates. And it does not close the doors for them forever. It's just that at this moment, the profile and the requirements do not match. In fact, I have made friends because of this. It always pays to be respectful for the time and efforts spent by the candidates. And they deserve feedback, isn't it?

Interviewing/Recruiting is such a tough process these days, no matter which side you are on. I understand hiring managers and HR being overwhelmed, not making timely decisions, etc. but it seems that a lot of organizations have taken the "human" part out of HR. I've had several interviews in the past few years where senior HR recruiters started the interview loops and outlined their process and next steps, all of which included follow-up verbal communication. A few even went so far as to say they'd call me back by X, but in the end I never heard back from most, and those who did finally get back to me were always *weeks* late in responding. After repeated attempts via phone/vmail to get in touch with folks that looked me in the eye and promised a follow up phone call, I hear nothing. Of course I know longer want to work at any of these companies because of their unprofessionalism - it's plane RUDE to promise a personal response and hear n-o-t-h-i-n-g. I understand there is a human aspect and people tend to avoid conflict but, in my mind, it's a recruiters job to provide timely feedback and they should follow through on what's promised. I can't count how many follow up emails I've sent to the various HR contacts to no avail. It comes to this in my mind - you have two responses to a candidate following up on a prospective job, and responding to an email takes literally seconds: 1. We haven't reached a decision yet and are still considering you, 2. You're not the right fit, we're moving on (whether that be due to qualifications, experience, personality, skills, etc. doesn't matter, the end result is the same). I have more empathy for overwhelmed hiring managers as they are often juggling interviews and covering open positions, but again if you are not sure - say so, respond to that email or have HR do it. Send me an automated email or post card if you need to avoid the stressful call, but at least let me know. It's the least a company can do, be respectful and respond, for the time I invested in researching the company, prepping for the interview and spending an average of 4 hours onsite for interview loops. I realize an interview should be viewed as an "opportunity" and that the company doesn't owe me anything but it's profressional courtesy to provide timely feedback, even if it's "I don't know", to candidates working with HR. I probably sound like a rabid nut with this ramble, I'm just frustrated at the pervasiveness of this issue over the last few years. After reading this article I'm convinced a lot of company's are putting serious dents in their reputations due to the way they treat candidates. Oh, and yes, yes - we shouldn't be hanging around and tied to any one opportunity, if the company doesn't get back to you - move on, I get that. I'm just talking about the rude people that have forgotten what it's like to be on the other side, which allows them to see candidates less as human beings and more like a warm body for an open position.

My long-winded two cents.

I am job hunting right now and really the thing that bugs me the most is, if you believe you had a good interview and you are denied, can't the interviewer tell you why so that you can improve the next time?

Hi Penelope,
I have to say horses for courses

But I agree with your hot-shot HR friend.
Most bg firms have a policy for applicants, if you have not heard from us by … in two or three weeks, you have not been shortlisted.

If after an interview, you do not hear from a prospective employer, the interviewee should chase or follow up the interviewer. It shows 1) initiative, and 2) That you are interested in the job.

If the vacancy has been filled they'll soon let you know.

What I find pointless or impractical is a phone call for someone to tell me "we've offered the job to someone who fits the requirements better"

Uhhh - you what. If you are going to turn me down, a Dear John letter saying thankyou, will suffice. If I want feedback from an interview or want to hear the interviewers voice - I'll call you.

I can't understand places like the NHS (national health service) who train their HR staff and/or interviewers to phone interviewees with bad news. I guess it is endemic in the NHS that staff are trained to dole out bad news over the phone to patients. Hello Mr so&so, we regret to inform you that you have some untreatable cancer or disease and you'll be dead soon.

This kind of news you don't really want over the phone. You don't even really want this kind of news by mail in the post. This kind of news should be given face to face by a Consultant, Surgeon or Specialist.

And the same applies with job interviews. If I don't hear from you within a week - I'll assume I didn't get the job. If I'm really keen on the job rest assured I'll be calling YOU. It is much easier then to inform me that you have offered the position to someone else. And if I want feedback from the interview - then YOU have the opportunity to tell me how dependant on what is written on a scrap of paper (application form) and my answers to a handful of random questions from a list - you can 'fathom' who is best suited for the job.

And one really can 'bullshit' with the best, and risk that even if your lies are discovered, you'll get full marks for initiative (unless you claim to have vital experience or licence for a job, such as machine handling, open heart surgery or running software) - or one can be as precise and accurate as possible, when going after a job one really wants and is more than capable of doing, and risk being 'trumped' by the applicant with the bullshit pooling the wool over HR and the interviewer.

Alas, Life is a Comedy of Errors
After all how did bin Bush (son of Bush) become President of the USA. Certainly not because of his quick thinking, nor because of his previous experience of invading a foreign countries - wrong Bush (It was his father 'liberated' kuwait) - or managing floods & the economy.

Years ago this happened to me a couple of times, only after which I realized that I had been - in the language of relationships - 'dumped' and they didn't have the heart to make closure.

After that I send two follow up letters with some gap in between, to induce the interviewer towards either a positive decision, or at least be driven to "uh-what-the-hell-He-asked-for-it" mode.

If the company or agency does not want you , they do not ring you. Happens every single day. However, you want to know why, so you can improve for the next time. However, when you do get feedback, it is normally 'made up' and useless anyway. How do you tell someone, 'your face doesn’t fit' or 'you were wearing white socks and I hate people who wear white socks'. Rarely is it because you did not have the necessary skills.

Andrew

This entry reminds me of the time one of my friends wondered what she should do since the hotel she applied for wasn't calling back (as promised). Unfortunately, a lot of people have no clue what to do in situations like this. Halfway through your entry, I was actually thinking of sending thank you cards. I read it in a magazine somewhere. Anyway, if they don't contact you, you shouldn't mope and sulk in a corner. The best thing to do would be to move on. It's their loss, not yours.

Lots of good advice about asking for info on how the process will proceed ("When should I expect to hear your decision?", etc) and I practice this myself. However, despite this, I've run into places that apparently just lie to me and then don't have the courage or morals to actually speak the truth. If you hear "we'll make our decision on Friday" and you haven't heard by Monday or Tuesday, then it is time for some followup. When they don't bother to return your calls or emails, that is a good sign that you didn't make the cut. What's worse though is the "you are great and we'll be making you an offer" story, followed by nothing - no calls, no mail, nobody will return your calls. I've had this happen a few times and never gotten a good answer as to what happened. I always continue my search until I have an acceptable offer in hand. The very worst that ever happened to me was a verbal offer that evaporated - "we're interested, how much money do you want? That's acceptable, expect an offer letter from us" - then nothing. I had some highly-placed friends that worked at that company and even they couldn't find out what was going on (very large company though - 40k+ employees, revenue in the billions - understandable that they didn't have a large view from even their position)

The bottom line is that rude treatment of applicants is noticed and talked about by me and my peers, and it does affect the reputation of the company. That very large company I mentioned? I know many people who used to work there, none are there still, and none will consider going back.

To be fair, the follow-up thank you note is a good suggestion, and I agree that it is in any candidate's best interests to continue to explore other options while awaiting a response from a prospective employer. I am troubled, however, by your closing statement: "If you get good at interviews, you don’t have to worry about people who don’t let you know about rejection because you won’t get rejected." This is patently untrue. You can be terrific at representing yourself well in interviews, and still be rejected for any number of reasons - under-qualified, over-qualified, you and the hiring manager's personalities don't mesh, etc. The idea that only people who interview poorly are rejected by hiring managers is preposterous, and creates unrealistic expectations in those who may read this column for advice. Statements such as this make the reader consider everything else that you say to be potentially suspect.

Hi Grace, ( from previous comment)
that's a bit sharp
There are few 'absolutes' in real life
whether choosing a partner, choosing a job, or what to do after an interview.
Each case is individual:
1) They may already have an 'internal' candidate, and yes are just going thru the motions trawling the market, just in case something should crop up
2) The person at HR or conducting the interview may have a 'preferred' candidate, or a friend's friend he wishes to offer the kob to
3) They may indeed not like the look of your face, or the colour of your socks, or …
4) They may feel 'intimidated' if you are in any way overqualified, overconfident, or sheer cocky
5) YOU MAY NOT FIT THE BILL (even though you must have on paper, to make it to interview)
6) YOU MAY NOT BE UP TO SCRATCH (excellent cv, but hell you can 'download' a prize winning cv)

and a host of other reasons.

One - do not be put off, demoralized or feel insulted if they do not contact you

Two - if you are keen on the job, follow up. Some may be unable to give you a good reason why you didn't get the job. But at least you know they've offered it to someone else

Three - don't be confrontational, that may be why they didn't offer you the job. Unless one of the rquirements of the job is to be confrontational.

Penelope once again you hit the nail on the head square on. I am fully aware of how demoralizing it is to be told "I'll be in touch" and feel you need to empathize with the swamped interviewer (i'm on the hunt myself). Deep down you know that if 48 hours go by and they don't call it was never meant to be.

There are days where this is just sucks the get-up-and-go out of you and there are others where you dig deep and find the best way forwards. I can only wish all my fellow job hunters out there the best of luck and continued positive attitude.
Thanks again for giving us that little push to keep on striving for excellence.

If an interviewer is sure I don't fit the position on the spot I would rather know right then and there. Job hunting is rigorous and I can take that, Frankly, it saves me time from sending a thank you not or calling in a futile effort. I think most people can handle this, because if a company doesn't want to hire you and you have a lot to offer there are two things to think of, "their loss" and "next".

The last time I aggressively searched for a job, I was astounded by the amount of interviewers that did not respond at all. If someone is putting in the time and effort to draft a cover letter, tweak their resume, send it, show up for an interview well dressed and enthusiastic, it would behoove the hiring community to have the human decency to respond positively or negatively about a job.

In some cases it's not possible to be immediately transparent - as a tech lead I often interview potential candidates, sometimes a candidate is just not suitable and therefore not considered for the job. However, I am not in a position to indicate this to the candidate directly because this task is usually the role of the recruiter.

This being said, whether it's direct to the candidate or via a recruiter, I always get back to the person, thanking them for their time to visit and regrets if we're not pursuing the matter further.

R.

I am currently searching for a job, having been laid off from a temp to perm. There is no standard for anything. I have found that if a company is interested in you and if they feel they are interested in you, they will move quickly, as a good fit and good talent is hard to find. That being said, I have had a few interviews, where I feel that my time was wasted as the interviewing company did not have a feel for what they are looking for. To give an example, I am college grad and I have CPA license. I have about 17 years work experience. On an interview yesterday, I was asked where I went to high school, what my grades were in high school, and if I went to college from high school. I was not asked what I have done in previous jobs, or how I felt I could help them. They made sure to stress to me that they had MBA's from Northwestern, but they could not really give me a good picture of what they wanted. It was painfully obvious that the company had not really thought out what they would have me do- they had some vague ideas such as perhaps I could post payroll journal entries, but they would have to check references to see if I was trustworthy and able to keep information confidential. They also suggested a three day trial period. Frankly, I have never heard of that before. I think, if it is a truly bad fit, you will know in one day, however, it is not possible to really get a feel in 3 days.

What if you pass a resume and they told you they will call you..what should one do?

I'm having problem with this because I passed a resume on some institution (school) and they haven't call back. My mom told me to go there and inquired about it..is that a good move? or should I just call? or both is wrong?

please help me..

and if you have the chance to see and answer this please reply back on my mail..

thank you so much.

Just another indication that HR "professionals" are the lowest form of plankton on the corporate food chain. Why large corporations let these mindless idiots decide who gets hired is beyond me.

The company I work with now may not be the greatest place to work out there, but at least they were INCREDIBLY professional and straightfoward during the hiring process.

I came across this site while experiencing a similar post-interview callback (or lack thereof) of my own. I’d like to preface my request for input by stating that this blog site is very thoughtful, polite, and considerate compared to most. Responders appear to share a genuine empathy with each others’ experiences, and I really appreciate that. I recognize that mentally beating myself up over whether or not I will get the offer is fruitless but, hell, I would just feel a bit better if I write about my situation and gained some insight from those older and wiser.

So here, goes…and thank you!!!! I’ll try to be as succinct as possible. For starters, I’m a recent college grad. Early in the week of January 7, I flew across the country—all at my own expense—for a second round interview at a boutique i-bank. The first round consisted of a pre-Christmas 30 minute conference call. I was perplexed by the dynamics of the interview, as it more informational than anything else. They gave me a detailed summary of the analyst role and answered my questions. There was no attempt to learn anything about me. I was then informed that there was an additional day of these round one interviews (some may have been in person as I was the only non-local candidate). Nevertheless, the very next day, they invited me out and said they were really looking forward to meeting me. They gave me the option of interviewing on a Monday or Tuesday, and I took the first slot available. I arrived in New York and was slightly surprised to see three other candidates being interviewed simultaneously – albeit, we were rotated individually. The interview consisted of four 30 minute rounds with two interviewers per cluster. I personally felt the interviews went very well for various reasons. I was also surprised to see how much older the other candidates appeared to be, given that it was highly stressed that this is an entry-level analyst spot. During my first rotation, I asked the interviewer, “When might I expect to hear back?” To which she replies, “Lets see. What’s today, Monday? So probably by Friday.” During my final round I asked when they would be making their decision. One senior woman responds, “Soon! We move fast here.” The gentleman alongside her, who was seeing me to the lobby said, “Should be tomorrow. When do you go back to LA?” I told him I was indeed going back the next day. “Well, there ya go!” he replies, with a big smile on his face. I was a bit puzzled because of the slight discrepancy in time frames given by the different interviewers and honestly did not hope to hear the next day. But this morning (Friday) I wrote a very nice email to the gentleman who told me I would know by Wednesday and inquiring as to the status of the position. Midday their time and no response. I email one other person who told me I was welcomed to contact her, just reiterating my enthusiasm for the position and hoping to find out something before the weekend (these two are both at the same career level so there was no going over anyone’s head, and I’d let hours go by after the first email I sent out). It’s Friday night and I’m pretty bummed and feel like I have to suffer through the weekend thinking the worst. Ordinarily I wouldn’t be worried but the one gentleman did tell me I’d know the next day. I was the only one who wasn’t local and I spent a lot of money to make the trip out there. My emails were so polite and I really feel like something strange is up. Any thoughts? I know they must have received the emails. They were always so punctual prior to my arrival and they are all wired to Blackberry. Should I give up hope? Thank you all!

Derrick,

The first advice I would offer is never fly out on your own dime. If they are interested, they will fly you out. That seems questionable to me. Also, no matter how fast they say they move, they are fooling themselves. Based on my experience, double the longest estimate they give you. So, take the end of the week estimate from the one woman and make it two. Sending the follow up email was a great step. Do you know who the actual hiring manager/decision maker is? If so, contact them with your followup (ideally via phone), making sure to indicate how excited you are about the opportunity and what the next steps in the process are, as you are eager to get started on it!

Good luck and don't get down. I just went through this. It's frustrating for the interviewee, but eventually someone will make an offer.

Andy

Thanks, Andy. That was a big help, man!

One item I slightly disagree with is the idea of the company being a bad place to work if an interviewer shows rudeness by not returning the call. Any company has its good and badd eggs and it may be a bit unfair to extrapolate the actions of this one individual into a view of the entire company (unless that type of dealing is systemic, but how can you know?)

I am, however, a firm believer in being responsible for one's own job search. I always encourage my clients to send thank you letter and make follow-up calls.

William Mitchell, CPRW

Great discussion. In the end, it's all about basic civility. If a company never gets back to you, it's because they see you as a commodity, not a human being. You exist merely to serve them. Therefore, if they don't want you, they think there's nothing in it for them to get back with you, so they just don't bother to make the effort. It's complete narcissism.

The HR people would be overly friendly and responsive before the interview. But never ever get in touch with the candidate if the interview did not go well. The interview may not have gone well for any number of reasons, but it is in the ROTTEN HR culture not to send a polite note.

Well i had an interview at Republic, and it went really well.
At the end, she asked me if i want to ask her anything and i asked when she'll let me know her decision..
And then she replied "it's a very tricky choice - you're so lovely and keen, but we will let you know by Sunday. Sometimes it can be very frustrating if the phone is switched off but we shall let you know on that day". She then added: "We'lllet you know on whether you haven't had any luck in getting the job, or if you have been lucky to have got the job, OR if you haven't got the job but we still want to see you again"

And it is Monday now, 3 days after my interview, i can't believe how rude and inconsiderate they are of not getting back to me!
Do you think i should get in contact with them?

@Sofina: Yes, you need to get back in touch and mention your interviewer's name and ask for the results of that interview.

Do not take this personally.

Okay, but the worst part is that she didn't even say her name, she simply said she is 'the manager' nothing more.

Thank you for your feed back.

@Sofina: You do know what group/team she was the manager of. Google it and find out, or ask the reception for assistance. Get the name and extension and call. It's ok to not have all your interviewer's contact details.

But in future some due diligence before the interview will help avoid this situation as well.

Okay, thank you, but what do you mean "due diligence before the interview will help " ?
Because i personally think the interview went extremely well, bearing in mind this was my first ever one too..

Due Diligence is the complete act of investigating the business or the person you will be meeting in the near future.

You lookup online or call up company representatives and try to get basic information about your interviewer which helps you better understand her/him when you actually meet face to face.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Due_Diligence

Oh right okay, well i shall bear that in mind next time.
But she only notified me 1 and a half days before the interview day and they i had exams on those days too.
I am presuming that i haven't got the job anyway, her work force were so unmotivated and didn't seem very interested as i was waiting.

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Sofina said "I am presuming that i haven’t got the job anyway, her work force were so unmotivated and didn’t seem very interested as i was waiting." Consider yourself lucky! Does that really seem like a place where you want to work? Frankly, when you get all sorts of negative vibes from a place (they don't call back as promised, people seem unmotivated, etc.), you should just keep on looking. Unless you are seriously desperate for a job, any job - run, don't walk, away from a place like this.

I have one thing to say about this, I have over 12 years of working in personnel/HR and am a disabled veteran. I don't care how you slice the pie, it is down right rude, to just "blow someone off!" Put yourself in the other person's shoes. It only takes one second to be kind, but who wants to work for an idiot who is rude to begin with? People don't take the time for interviews and getting resumes ready because they have nothing to do, they need a job, just because you "the one doing the interviewing can sit in your high paying job" has one, be decent and show some respect to those who don't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi,

I have a question, I went for an interview for a chef job and had a trial which i thought went really well and was one of my best ones yet, the interview itself went about the same too, The employer told me that he would phone me at the end of the week, and i have been fretting whether i have got the job or not and am really wanting to know if i had, basically do you think i should send them a quick email to say thank you for the interview and giving me a fair trial etc… or just leave since he is supposed to give me a call back today usually in the morning now the afternoon and really doing my head in. I don't know what to do.

Please help.

Booboo…

No do not email him - if he hasn't had the decency to evenring you back then there is really no point. I know how you feel after having the interview etc with the feeling that it did go well..I think this is just a sign that you haven't got the job, mayeb he will ring you tomorrow?

If he doesn't ring you by tomorrow then I would suggest you start looking elsewhere - there are many opportunities out there, so go for it!
Don't feel crushed by this one incident although it can make you feel down.

Hope that helped, and good luck.

You should have e-mailed and thanked the interviewer(s) immediately after the interview was over (end of day).

Also you should not lose your head over this. Send an e-mail inquiry asking how you did.

Swaroop/Sofina,

Thank you for your comments.

I emailed them just now very politly asking for some feedback on how i did, so i hope to find out what went wrong and if anything did, I did go through something else like this before, i ended calling them back and then they rang me back again saying i did get the job so i hope that they must have been busy doing whatever they were doing, any way i'm pleased i sent them the email at last since it will give me a bit of clarification about what's going on i hope that i might still be in with a chance! sorry if that sounds a little naive!

Thanks again.

Right now it's an employer's market and for the time being HR professionals can conduct themselves in an un-professional manner without fear of not meeting their basic job requirements for recruiting. This will not always be the case and these people will see the error in their ways when the economy changes and unemployment rates start to drop. I once interviewed at a company for a sales position and at the end of the interview I asked what regions did they currently have available and were actively recruiting for; the sales manager was impressed that I was trying to close the deal at the end of an interview for a sales position. He was honest with me and let me know that he currently didn’t have any regions open at the time; his company requires that he meets with 2 candidates a week so that the company has a large pool of back burners just incase a position becomes available. When he called back in a month to offer me a job I turned him down because I wasn’t interested in working with a company that had idiotic policies and had wasted my time.

Hi people,

I have attended an interview yesterday.
It went on for about 1 hour, as I had a presentation .
Towards, the end, after the interviewer wound up and we stood, he stopped me and asked when would I be able to join? I said, in a day or two.
Then also was told by the interviewer that , someone would be calling me positively day after.

Im confused, as when i did call back, to find out whether i would be having a final round, he said, you may have one and it would be a telephonic round.
So do you feel , this is how it is , if someone is in the process of getting selected??
Im wondering…

It's laughable how HR managers throw phrases like "professional, with excellent communication skills" around when they themselves are incapable of getting back to you to let you know you didn't get the job. And apparently, following-up gets you nowhere because you'll never get a response that way either.

I am researching and writing an article regarding corportations and businesses - their grotesque lack of porfessionalism regarding this issue of not getting back to interviewees. This is outragious, and I hope to rock their world! Any feedback, comments, stories, etc, would be very welcome (believe1455@yahoo.com)! Thanks LB

If I waste time and gasoline to go to an interview and they can't be bothered to call me or at least send a rejection letter, they're assholes. What you call not "not being transparent" is a euphemism for "cowardice". HR people are losers…they were too stupid to get a real degree in college, yet somehow they consider themselves psychologists. Absolute losers.