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Budget: Situation Normal, All Fouled Up

by: Julia Rosen

Fri Aug 10, 2007 at 14:43:27 PM PDT


(cross-posted from Working Californians now also at Daily Kos)

It's been just about two weeks since the Senate collapsed.  Sad to say, that we might even be further away from a solution.  Let's look at this mess in a bullet format and try and make sense of it all.

  • 14 Senators are holding up the budget until a majority of their far right cohort agrees to the deal, even though we only need one more vote.  Essentially they are requiring that 74% of the legislature approves of the final budget.  The two-thirds budget requirement is arcane as it is, but to require near unanimous consent is just absurd.
  • It is now clear that the Republican calls to change CEQA (see yesterday's post) are central to their demands.  That is absolutely a non-starter for the Democrats and the Governor.  In the wake of the dustup over the CARB, Arnold is not exactly in a position to start weakening environmental laws without a huge backlash.  I am not sure where the Republicans think they are going to get a lot of support for their pro-business, anti-green argument in both the Capitol and the public.  California has a lot of Republicans, but a large percentage of them are environmentally friendly.  The same cannot be said for the Republican Senators who are holding out.  They are very much out of the mainstream, arguably even within their own party.
Julia Rosen :: Budget: Situation Normal, All Fouled Up
  • Senate Pro Tem Don Perata has declared that he will not take up any more legislation until the budget is passed, something Speaker Fabian Nunez quite rightly disagrees with.  The Republicans would love it if the progressive legislation that the Democrats have on tap, like AB8 (health care reform) get scuttled.  It would allow the Republicans to further undermine our system of government.
  • Arnold really looks impotent here.  Nothing he has done has worked.  His strategy of disengagement on the budget until the last minute has proven to be a bad one.  He seriously miscalculated the intentions of his fellow Republicans.  This stalemate has the ability to seriously undermine a lot of the work he has done in the last year to try and prove that he can unite both parties and pass landmark legislation.  If this keeps up, it will damage his chances at the 2010 Senate race, if he was even thinking of running in the first place.
  • Nunez and Perata are now looking for any possible leverage points they can find on the hold-out Republicans.  Nunez is declaring Republican legislative priorities DOA.  Perata is stripping folks from committee assignments.  Unfortunately, there is not much power they hold over them.  Each day that passes is a victory for the ultra right-wing conservative Senators.

  • This week momentum has emerged to repeal the 2/3rds vote requirement for the budget's passage.  Speaker Nunez has declared that it will be a major priority for him.  Doing that in conjunction with a re-examination of our tax system would make sense, however that tact did not work in 2004.  Logically, it does make sense to address our revenue problems, as part of a larger budget discussion.  Today Mark Leno has an op-ed in the Chronicle worth reading about reforming the budget process and historical look at the 2/3rds requirement.

    The idea that a single legislator of the minority party can cause such suffering to millions of Californians is appalling. Maybe if the deadlock continues for another month or two, recognizing the risk that would present thousands of social-service providers, voters will more quickly understand that it is time to change the way we do business and enter the 21st century.

    Obviously, the attempt in 2004 to address this very rule did not go well.  The Republicans managed to scare the public about the potential for increased taxes.  Nunez and Leno seem to be arguing for a ballot initiative to change it to a simple majority vote for the budget.  That would fix the short term problems of the mechanisms for passing the budget, but looking at the tax vote requirement and Prop. 13 would address the supply problem.  These are very thorny issues to say the least.

Right now there is not a clear or heck even a murky path to a resolution on the budget.  Who knows when that will change or what will cause it to happen.

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Schwarzenegger (0.00 / 0)
Is there any way for him to come back from this without loudly and publicly calling out the Senate Republicans? If that would even work? I mean jeez...he's clearly lost the party. What's left for him to do?

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -JFK

Probably no percentage for him in this (0.00 / 0)
Unless he's willing to split his party in half and effectively run against these people for control, he's best off keeping a low profile and blame the Democrats in retrospect for this.  That's the coward's way out, but I think it's also the most likely thing for him to do.

Splitting the party would take serious testicular fortitude, but is probably the *right* thing for him to do.  But I don't see him doing it.

The latter would be a very hard strategy for our current party leadership to counter, since frankly, they need to clean up their own mess, and show little interest in doing so.


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Would be neat though (0.00 / 0)
To digress a bit, to see the war for control of the GOP led by a guy who was once pregnant...

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -JFK

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Neat? Seriously? (0.00 / 0)
It would be freaking incredible. The problem with it though? A newly minted ModGOP would probably pick off many of the independents that Dems count on to win many seats.

Still, I would love to see the Runners & the Ackermans of the World shown their place by the Governator.

Shouldn't 3 strikes apply to Arnold? Strike 1, Strike 2, Strike 3. Life Sentence!


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Haven't heard AS wants to whip Ackerman's ass (0.00 / 0)
Although I bet Ackerman's got way less balls, ovaries, guts, whatever compared to the CNA.

Eventually the GOP will make a serious move to the center, and they will take a serious chunk out of the Democrats.  But since the nuts control the entire apparatus, the corporate/business wing is going to have to split the party first.

So don't wish for them doing it too fast.  We're better off trying to get some disaffected members of the party to cross the aisle, as Sebelius has done so effectively in Kansas.


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Funny how we're moving through Ahnold's oeuvre (0.00 / 0)
They started out with Terminator, and now we've made it to Junior.  I'm waiting for Kindergarten Cop.  Or Twins, for that matter, with Ahnold in the Danny Devito role.

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I don't (0.00 / 0)
believe that it is possible.  The Senate Republicans are getting their strength from the partisan activists who wanted to see them pick a fight with the governor.  This all stems from how Arnold governed last year working with the Democrats and basically ignoring the Republicans.  They did not want to be an afterthought.

I believe it was Anthony York, in the podcast I have linked in the quick hits, who said Arnold really doesn't have any political capitol he can spend on the Republicans.  I think if he did have any he would have spent it, so the legislature could move on to other priorities of his.  If you remember, he was going around talking about water bonds as this was exploding.  He was looking forward, not recognizing the potential for this current situation.  It was a big mistake.

He has already offered hundreds of millions of dollars in additional cuts.  That wasn't even enough for the gang of 14.


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He can't salvage himself within the party (0.00 / 0)
But he's still got the remnants of his moderate, post-partisan image within the general public.  In regards to whipping up popular opinion, seems like the possibility exists.  Whether he'd take it is, of course, an entirely different proposition.

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -JFK

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Something positive to do with their ad funds (0.00 / 0)
It is now clear that the Republican calls to change CEQA (see yesterday's post) are central to their demands.  That is absolutely a non-starter for the Democrats and the Governor.  In the wake of the dustup over the CARB, Arnold is not exactly in a position to start weakening environmental laws without a huge backlash.  I am not sure where the Republicans think they are going to get a lot of support for their pro-business, anti-green argument in both the Capitol and the public.  California has a lot of Republicans, but a large percentage of them are environmentally friendly.  The same cannot be said for the Republican Senators who are holding out.  They are very much out of the mainstream, arguably even within their own party.

A little microtargeting could go a long way here.

I'm not sure how one could efficiently reach "environmentally friendly" Republicans, but it's worth thinking seriously about this.  But I'd guess you could make ad buys on cable that might not do badly here.

I suspect the state party *does* have some money available for this.  They have the opportunity to raise the negatives of the Senate Republicans, and help depress a bit of their fundraising.

Is the state party serious, or no?


Try Field & Stream (0.00 / 0)
Or other hunting and angling related publications.  You'll get a slightly different kind of environmental perspective, but you'll get one.

A Rough & Tumble reader.

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good point. Sportsman Conservationists (8.00 / 1)
were critical in the Dem victories in the Mountain West.

Shouldn't 3 strikes apply to Arnold? Strike 1, Strike 2, Strike 3. Life Sentence!

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Exactamundo (0.00 / 0)
[although that's from a Silverster Stallone flick, count to think...]

I suspect there are other markers/segments as well.  It'd be interesting to see polling about attitudes about global warming.


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You know (0.00 / 0)
if this was a long term fight, and one that we were prepared for that might be an option.  However, we should be on a timeline of days not weeks, in terms of a resolution.  How sad is it that we are talking about microtargeting moderate Republican votes to get their fellow party members to come off the extremist ledge?

You are absolutely correct we need to make sure the blame falls on the Republican's shoulders.  Unfortunately, given the makeup of the districts, the real impact of that can't be very large.  It's not like any of them are really risking their re-election chances over this, even though many Republicans are environmentally friendly.


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But (0.00 / 0)
it helps undermine the party statewide.

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -JFK

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Sometimes, long term is short term (0.00 / 0)
It's worth remembering that the GOP is largely a coalition between business interest money and social conservative activists.  Increasingly, this is not a comfortable coalition, and in some states it's coming very noisily apart.

The ads are not there to scare the activists, and the electeds, who are increasingly drawn from their ranks. You are correct, they very much want a fight.  The ads are to scare the money, pure and simple, which I suspect is a lot more divided on these issues.

A few strategic phone calls from major financial backers to members of the Gang of 14 will do wonders, and it can happen very fast if we scare the right people now.


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Try this... (0.00 / 0)
The Legislative Outdoor Sporting Caucus

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