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Chuck Todd Lies On National Television

by: David Dayen

Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 17:48:04 PM PDT


So I'm watching Countdown, and Olbermann brings up the delegate math in the wake of Barack Obama's victory in Mississippi.  He teases a discussion with Chuck Todd about "changes in the delegates in Texas, one week after the voting, and changes in the delegates in California, one MONTH later!"

So I think to myself, "Self, are you about to be mentioned on Countdown?"  Because, as has been well-documented, it was changes originated on this website that led to the national media meekly changing their delegate totals to reflect reality.

So Chuck Todd comes on the show, and Olbermann asks him about California, and Todd hems and haws about there being "a lot of absentee and provisional ballots counted late" in the state, which is true, and about how some 3-1 delegate splits in various districts changed to 2-2, which is also true.  Then he said, "and so when all the votes came in, it turns out Obama netted four delegates out of these districts in the last week." (rough transcript)

Yeah, that's actually kind of a lie.  There has been no movement in the delegate count since CA-53 flipped to Obama on February 15.  Most of the delegate changes happened very early.  MSNBC just turned away from the counting, neglected to pay attention, and now makes the demonstrably false statement that Obama netted delegates "in the last week."

What actually happened was that my post about the real delegate counts got picked up by the Wall Street Journal and shamed the entire national media into getting it right.  But I guess that wouldn't sound too good on Countdown.

It'll sound good in my email to Keith.

David Dayen :: Chuck Todd Lies On National Television
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hey David (8.00 / 1)
great job on all of this!  

Chuck Todd consistently underwhelmes me (0.00 / 0)
Back in 2006, he and I went back and forth via email about his insistence on listing Lieberman's Senate seat as a Democratic seat after the primary and the CT for Lieberman mess.  His 'logic' was pretty strained, something like "since he was originally a Democrat and says he'll caucus with them, it's a Democratic seat."  Of course Vermont's outgoing and incoming Dem-caucusing independents didn't get the same treatment.

He seems too often to be concerned about feeding the media narrative than about getting the details straight.  Maybe it's just me, but I don't think so.

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -JFK


Big Props to YOU David (0.00 / 0)
I read that WSJ article this AM much to my surprise and delight and he was very careful to get your name right. Ususally the east coast media credits a catch like yours to "a blogger",so big ups to you.  I hope we get a plug in there for the Courage Campaign , who was instrumental in coordinating our demands for the registrar in LA to get it right. Having Bowen on the side of the voters is a breath of fresh air too, isn't it?

Mike Hickerson
Ca Dem Central Committee
AD # 37 Delegate
Obama '08
CA for Democracy


You go, David! (0.00 / 0)
This is really important stuff, as I snarked before, you'd think that the MSM would at least get the horserace correct...

Certification hapend March 5th (0.00 / 0)
didn't it?  

Can't ignore the numbers when they are certified and different.


Not yet (0.00 / 0)
March 4 was date for counties to send to Secretary of State.  SoS is finalizing the "canvass of the vote" and will certify (and post on their webpage) on March 15 (yes, it's a Saturday, but they say that they will still be working and post it on that date).

right (0.00 / 0)
I corrected my misimpression a few days ago.  For the record, it appears that the CDP is confident that the final vote will turn out 203-167.

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Great work (0.00 / 0)
on this.  I hope he at least gave you a little credit (but somehow I doubt it).  

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