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Sep 19 2007, 11:41 PM
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Copywriter ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 16-September 07 Member No.: 448 |
Esteemed fellow entrepreneurs ...
I've just put up a copywriting website. I need HELP. Especially, with developing the business model. For example, do you think the "name your best price" idea works in real life? Does it lift up your heart or leave you dazed and confused? Also, how do you get those nifty fill-in-the-blank online forms? I'd rather set up the Contact Us page that way. Do I make the process of ordering, paying, and receiving writing services clear? Is my way of doing it easy, convenient, and reasonable? If this were your website what would you do to improve it? If you were a client what would make you feel that this is someone who could help you? Any other ideas, suggestions, and sage words? Here is the link (drum roll, please) http://writing-services.theempoweredsoul.com/index.html Cheers, Sal P.S. Kudos and encouragement will not be held against you. P.P.S. All ideas will be carefully considered, and the brilliant ones will be acted on immediately. -------------------- |
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Sep 20 2007, 05:51 PM
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![]() Copywriter ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 17-September 07 From: Michigan Member No.: 450 |
helloo Sal! There were several things I liked about your website. The picture at the top is attractive. I really liked the majority of your bio, it sounded very professional.
Let's start with the bio page. I really like how the text is centered on this page. I would like to see that on the home page as well (there's too much white space on your home page. It distracted me from your actual text.) The next to last paragraph bothered me with the many repetitions of "your". As a client, I think I would have liked to see links to samples of your works rather than being told to google your name. On the home page, again, the white space on the right makes me feel off balanced, which makes it hard to concentrate on what you've written. This is might be a matter of personal preference, but I think your site would feel more fleshed out if you broke up the home page a bit. Have a summary of what you offer and how it would benefit the client, then have separate links to how much it costs and how the process works. Links to samples of your work and testimonials on the main page would also make your site more professional. I thought the contact page was fine. I don't know anything about how to get those fill in boxes, though I agree they would be nice. As far as the business model goes, I thought that was fine. I think you really explained that well, so there shouldn't be any questions from the client about how the process goes. I hope these suggestions are helpful and that your website is successful! |
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Sep 20 2007, 09:34 PM
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Copywriter ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 16-September 07 Member No.: 448 |
hellooo Sal! There were several things I liked about your website. The picture at the top is attractive. I really liked the majority of your bio, it sounded very professional. Let's start with the bio page. I really like how the text is centered on this page. I would like to see that on the home page as well (there's too much white space on your home page. It distracted me from your actual text.) The next to last paragraph bothered me with the many repetitions of "your". As a client, I think I would have liked to see links to samples of your works rather than being told to google your name. On the home page, again, the white space on the right makes me feel off balanced, which makes it hard to concentrate on what you've written. This is might be a matter of personal preference, but I think your site would feel more fleshed out if you broke up the home page a bit. Have a summary of what you offer and how it would benefit the client, then have separate links to how much it costs and how the process works. Links to samples of your work and testimonials on the main page would also make your site more professional. I thought the contact page was fine. I don't know anything about how to get those fill in boxes, though I agree they would be nice. As far as the business model goes, I thought that was fine. I think you really explained that well, so there shouldn't be any questions from the client about how the process goes. I hope these suggestions are helpful and that your website is successful! Ah, you're really good at this stuff! I implemented all your suggestions -- and my pages look WAAAAY better. If I missed something, or you spotted something else, please let me know. Cheers, Sal -------------------- |
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Sep 21 2007, 05:30 PM
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Copywriter ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 16-September 07 Member No.: 448 |
helloooo Sal! There were several things I liked about your website. The picture at the top is attractive. I really liked the majority of your bio, it sounded very professional. Let's start with the bio page. I really like how the text is centered on this page. I would like to see that on the home page as well (there's too much white space on your home page. It distracted me from your actual text.) The next to last paragraph bothered me with the many repetitions of "your". As a client, I think I would have liked to see links to samples of your works rather than being told to google your name. On the home page, again, the white space on the right makes me feel off balanced, which makes it hard to concentrate on what you've written. This is might be a matter of personal preference, but I think your site would feel more fleshed out if you broke up the home page a bit. Have a summary of what you offer and how it would benefit the client, then have separate links to how much it costs and how the process works. Links to samples of your work and testimonials on the main page would also make your site more professional. I thought the contact page was fine. I don't know anything about how to get those fill in boxes, though I agree they would be nice. As far as the business model goes, I thought that was fine. I think you really explained that well, so there shouldn't be any questions from the client about how the process goes. I hope these suggestions are helpful and that your website is successful! Hey there, Thank you for taking the time to look over my website and offer some constructive comments. I've implemented all your suggestions ... since they all made perfect sense ... and to tell you the truth, I wouldn't have even thought of those things myself. Today, I decided to launch it by announcing it to my list of 5,000 subscribers. Here is the letter ... (subject line:) A Writer is Born! Not really, but I liked the excitement of that title. Here's what the hullabaloo is ALL about today... date Hi firstname, Since day after day I ramble about how healing your subconscious mind will release its magic to liberate your world -- you probably think that my first love is psychology. ...After all, I've had too many personal miracles occur from unearthing my sorrows and transforming them into moments of emancipation to doubt the magic of the subconscious mind -- and this idea has long since passed from the realm of belief into the kingdom of knowing. Actually, however, writing has always been my first love. I fell in love with the written word at the age of 17, when I wrote my first maudlin poetry about unrequited High School love. (Her name was Irene -- a girl with a bewitching smile and liquid black eyes, whose German father and Arabian mother ha d bequeathed her with an exquisite tan and exotic features.) There's something about converting repressed emotion into words that's ecstatic; words transform the ordinary into the extraordinary because while mimicking life they make the lived experience more acute -- the way a mountain climber at a peak feels more alive looking down at the plains through the lace of clouds than he did when he was on the plains themselves. While in my peregrination through life, I've worn the perspective of a journalist, a computer geek, and a psychologist, penetrating them all has been my inner artistic child who considers himself a writer. While I've been helping people over the years with their writing -- from assisting a Holocaust victim to write her first novel to whipping up some direct mail pieces--I've only done it in an accidental way -- but last week, after pondering my prime credo "do what you love" I decided to create a business out of it. So far, I've helped a few clients with SEO-focused articles for their niche and sales letters for their products -- and it's been marvelous fun seeing their web businesses begin to sink roots. So -- if you need writing services, from writing for your online or offline business to coaching your first short story or novel -- give me a holler. I've slapped on my qualifications and the details of my new business here: http://writing-services.theempoweredsoul.com/ To your SUCCESS, P.S. After you scan the website, drop me a line, and we can decide on how to launch your dream through the inspiration of written words. I'm fairly open to both content and pricing -- so don't let that hold you back. However, do hurry because this letter will be going out to thousands and I'll only be able to take on a few clients. -------------------------------------------------------------- ... So, what do you think? Again, I'm looking for a feel on how to connect with people via email. I know that sometimes I come across as academic, and I lack that earthy gusto that appeals to people, but after five degrees its hard to remember how to simplify and slip into a natural vernacular -- so apart from that short- coming -- do you want to hire this guy to write for you based on the letter and based on his website? ... By the way, should I link my blog here up to my website, Copywriting Journal? You see ... the blog is just ad hoc writing I do to stay in the flow of inspiration ... and I don't know whether it would add value to helping someone decide to hire me for writing. Cheers, Sal -------------------- |
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Sep 27 2007, 04:32 PM
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![]() Copywriter ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 24-September 07 Member No.: 498 |
Here is the link (drum roll, please) http://writing-services.theempoweredsoul.com/index.html Hi Sal... I'll be looking over all the pages, but for now, I wanted to say that the front page looks good. The thing that jumps out at me on that page is your copyright notice. If you started in 2004, you'll want to at least at least add a dash and 2007. Yes, I know that we have copyright protection as soon as we write something, but I often look at copyright notices on websites to see if the content *is* current. I also like adding "All rights reserved" to all my notices. I'll be back after I see the other pages. |
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Sep 27 2007, 04:50 PM
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![]() Copywriter ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 24-September 07 Member No.: 498 |
Esteemed fellow entrepreneurs ... Okay, I'm back. I like your writing process page. It's no-nonsense and it doesn't leave room for people to whine about your terms not being clear because they're very clear. In the last paragraph, I think I'd change the term "good" copy to "successful" copy. Maybe it's just me, but "good" wasn't strong enough for my taste. The pricing page... well, while it seems like a really great test, I think I'd be kind of nervous. Like if I'd normally charge $500 for something and I'm offered $400, would I take it and hope someone ELSE will offer $600 to make up for it? No, that's not saying I wouldn't do it, it's very intriguing. I'll be interested to find out how many offers are higher than you may have charged. Remember that some people have *no* idea what a good copywriter costs, though, so may back away rather than make an embarrassing offer? Would it benefit you to (just thinking aloud here) list a low-ball offer to at least help guide the folks who haven't a clue what your work is worth? Contact page looks good. About Us page... I'm curious about why you've capitalized "Copywriting"... I'm sure there's a reason for that, but I don't know what it is at this point, so I thought I'd mention it. Okay, that's it... looks fabulous. *DO* remember to fix your copyright notice, though... seriously, if I'd hit your page and see the 2004, I'd assume you're no longer in business if you didn't update the notice for three years and I wouldn't take the time to send an email to find out... so that one's vital. Good luck! |
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Sep 28 2007, 01:48 AM
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Copywriter ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 16-September 07 Member No.: 448 |
Okay, I'm back. I like your writing process page. It's no-nonsense and it doesn't leave room for people to whine about your terms not being clear because they're very clear. In the last paragraph, I think I'd change the term "good" copy to "successful" copy. Maybe it's just me, but "good" wasn't strong enough for my taste. The pricing page... well, while it seems like a really great test, I think I'd be kind of nervous. Like if I'd normally charge $500 for something and I'm offered $400, would I take it and hope someone ELSE will offer $600 to make up for it? No, that's not saying I wouldn't do it, it's very intriguing. I'll be interested to find out how many offers are higher than you may have charged. Remember that some people have *no* idea what a good copywriter costs, though, so may back away rather than make an embarrassing offer? Would it benefit you to (just thinking aloud here) list a low-ball offer to at least help guide the folks who haven't a clue what your work is worth? Contact page looks good. About Us page... I'm curious about why you've capitalized "Copywriting"... I'm sure there's a reason for that, but I don't know what it is at this point, so I thought I'd mention it. Okay, that's it... looks fabulous. *DO* remember to fix your copyright notice, though... seriously, if I'd hit your page and see the 2004, I'd assume you're no longer in business if you didn't update the notice for three years and I wouldn't take the time to send an email to find out... so that one's vital. Good luck! Thanks for the feedback. I was not able to change the copywrite notice because that was when I got the domain--however, I've got a javascript date script with todays date to tell the reader the website is current as they scan the home page. Also, I was not able to change 'good' to 'successful'--as that was the word choice of the customer and I don't want to tamper with the testimonial. Thanks for catching the typo on about us page. I've corrected it to show a small c. As for the pricing model, I'm thinking of just making a list of prices. The test did not prove successful, with most people choosing to underpay. I'll be changing that page soon once I start a marketing plan to get traffic to that page. Most people who want copywriting services don't have a clue where to start negotiating so the idea did not work at all. I'm also planning on putting up some samples of "before" and "after" copy--and I've contacted a few clients offering them a huge discount if they let me showcase their website copy. I appreciate your encouragement on this project. Cheers, Sal -------------------- |
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Sep 28 2007, 10:51 AM
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![]() Copywriter ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 24-September 07 Member No.: 498 |
Also, I was not able to change 'good' to 'successful'--as that was what the word choice of the customer and I don't want to tamper with the testimonial. Thanks for catching the typo on about us page, and I've corrected it to show a small c. Of course you can't change a testimonial word... |
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Sep 28 2007, 10:51 PM
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![]() Copywriter ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 17-September 07 From: Michigan Member No.: 450 |
I just looked at your website again Sal, and it looks great! You've made a lot of excellent changes, and I especially love the testimonials at the bottom of the home page. I hope that you get a lot of new business!
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Sep 30 2007, 06:22 PM
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Copywriter ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 16-September 07 Member No.: 448 |
I just looked at your website again Sal, and it looks great! You've made a lot of excellent changes, and I especially love the testimonials at the bottom of the home page. I hope that you get a lot of new business! Well, it looks good because I followed your suggestions. One of them was particularly useful, where you suggested I break my long sales page into a series of sub-sections. It not only gave my website a fuller look but it also made things much clearer for the visitor. The testimonials really helped boost business, and I'm keen to collect more. Since some of my most recent writings have been repeat business, this aspect of the website has still to evolve. -------------------- |
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Oct 2 2007, 05:59 AM
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![]() Pro Copywriter ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 26-July 07 From: Kansas Member No.: 162 |
Hi Sal and All.
I would like to interject a few more suggestions to the copy on your home page, if I may. I would not presume to change your thoughts or words produced, and only make these offerings as suggestions. The home page is all I had time to look at tonight. Get ready. Are you ready? OK... Remove the words "me, my and I" from all the copy. In most cases it sounds arrogant and self-centered. After making that observation, I won't leave you out in the cold. These are ONLY suggestions and probably not the best but what I came up with off the top of my head. You must use your own words to make the copy more to your own liking. 01.) where you have: My writing can help you bring out all the benefits... try something like this: Great copywriting can bring out all the benefits... 02.) where you have: Using my experience as both a former journalist... possibly this: Having experience as both a former... 03.) where you have: I can either fine-tune your existing... maybe this: it is possible to fine-tune your... 04.) where you have: My copy will bring out all the benefits... Something to this effect: Professional copywriting will bring out all the benefits... 05.) Where it says this: I can help you with any other aspect of... Something like this could work: you may need help in other aspects of your marketing funnel. 06.) where this is: I can help you spruce up your e-book copy, possibly more effective could be: you may need to spruce up your e-book copy, 07.) where this sentence appears: In three ideas, I can sum up everything I've learned about the writing process: try an approach like this: These three ideas sum up the writing process: 08.) with this sentence: from my testimonials, I do the best I can, not the least, try another approach: from the testimonials, you receive the best, not the least, 09.) at the end you have: I take your trust in me to deliver value to your business seriously because I genuinely care about the success of my clients. rearrange a bit: Delivering value is serious business, your success is our success. or some other form: Being serious about delivering value, you are assured of success. ~~~~~~ Be sure to make a statement at the end and not a plea. Always tell them you are the BEST and you will bring them success or you will surpass their goals or... I am sure you get the idea. Everything must be a plus-plus, win-win unless you are using story telling to write your copy. Then it is OK to use I, me and my. Just a few more points, your home page title should have your keywords or key phrases in it. Right now it says "about us.” If you are selling your copywriting skills, the word "copywriting" should be mentioned in the page title and your copy in every few lines or paragraphs. I also did not see a company name. If you have one uh, make sure you mention it. I'm sorry, I hope I am helping here and my comments do not sound too abrupt. There is more but it is late and I need to get to bed as 6:00 am comes early here (as it does everywhere). Please take my comments as they are given, in a spirit of helping you with your endeavor. You do not need to take what I suggest "to the bank" as each of us has our own style of approaching a project. It is always easy to see where someone else's copy could be improved but sometimes impossible to see flaws in our own writing. I do the very same thing. I have a devil of a time writing for myself, about me or about my businesses. I do great with clients but that "me" hump usually looks like a mountain I cannot scale or traverse . More tomorrow. Blessings. Verb -------------------- Keep your puck moving.
www.buddycopywriting.com/copywritinghome/ www.buddywebworks.com www.ryze.com/go/VerbatimEB |
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Oct 2 2007, 02:23 PM
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![]() Pro Copywriter ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 26-July 07 From: Kansas Member No.: 162 |
Good Morning Sal and All.
Q - "For example, do you think the "name your best price" idea works in real life? Does it lift up your heart or leave you dazed and confused?" A - No, this never works. People will "cheap it up" whenever they can keep money in their own pockets. You will lose out using that strategy. Sorry. Q - "Also, how do you get those nifty fill-in-the-blank online forms? I'd rather set up the Contact Us page that way." A - Find the form code here: http://www.w3c.org Q - "Do I make the process of ordering, paying, and receiving writing services clear? Is my way of doing it easy, convenient, and reasonable?" A - I did not get beyond the home page yet. Q - "If this were your website what would you do to improve it?" A - Why the sub-domain? Upon looking at the code, nothing is filled in - it is a template and somewhere you should be able to change all that to what you need. It is certainly not impossible to optimize but that does make it much, much harder. The pros and cons on sub domains are simple - if you are intending to optimize, don't use them. Special attention needs to be paid to each and every item for SEO and with a templated sub-domain that is not always possible. If you don't care about SEO, or don't want to hire an expert to work some magic, you should get your own url (domain name) and be sure your main subject keyword is in that url. Search until you find one that fits into the realm of your business. Upon checking - I see you own "the empowered soul" so that explains the sub-domain. But for copywriting? I would still get a unique url. All that said, if you are depending on email campaigns and linking strategies to drive traffic to the site and not on solid seo procedures, keep the sub-domain. lol. That's all I have, so far. Back to work. Just my humble comments and OH-pinions. Blessings. Verb -------------------- Keep your puck moving.
www.buddycopywriting.com/copywritinghome/ www.buddywebworks.com www.ryze.com/go/VerbatimEB |
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Oct 2 2007, 07:40 PM
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Copywriter ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 16-September 07 Member No.: 448 |
Good Morning Sal and All. Q - "For example, do you think the "name your best price" idea works in real life? Does it lift up your heart or leave you dazed and confused?" A - No, this never works. People will "cheap it up" whenever they can keep money in their own pockets. You will lose out using that strategy. Sorry. Q - "Also, how do you get those nifty fill-in-the-blank online forms? I'd rather set up the Contact Us page that way." A - Find the form code here: http://www.w3c.org Q - "Do I make the process of ordering, paying, and receiving writing services clear? Is my way of doing it easy, convenient, and reasonable?" A - I did not get beyond the home page yet. Q - "If this were your website what would you do to improve it?" A - Why the sub-domain? Upon looking at the code, nothing is filled in - it is a template and somewhere you should be able to change all that to what you need. It is certainly not impossible to optimize but that does make it much, much harder. The pros and cons on sub domains are simple - if you are intending to optimize, don't use them. Special attention needs to be paid to each and every item for SEO and with a templated sub-domain that is not always possible. If you don't care about SEO, or don't want to hire an expert to work some magic, you should get your own url (domain name) and be sure your main subject keyword is in that url. Search until you find one that fits into the realm of your business. Upon checking - I see you own "the empowered soul" so that explains the sub-domain. But for copywriting? I would still get a unique url. All that said, if you are depending on email campaigns and linking strategies to drive traffic to the site and not on solid seo procedures, keep the sub-domain. lol. That's all I have, so far. Back to work. Just my humble comments and OH-pinions. Blessings. Verb Thanks! I'm going to be moving the website over to a full writing service website, and I'll put your suggestions to good use. Sal -------------------- |
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Oct 3 2007, 04:16 AM
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![]() Pro Copywriter ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 26-July 07 From: Kansas Member No.: 162 |
Hiya Sal and All.
You have probably worked on the webpages until you are blue in the face. I know that feeling. We have all been there, done that. At least a lot of us have. There is that rush, urgency and above all, wanting and needing to present our very best to the public. It can become a long and arduous task. Maintenance come into play once you are up and running and the google bot has gobbled up your pages, indexed them and placed them somewhere in with 100,000 or a million other web sites. At this point you find out exactly how much more work you have to do, and sometimes it is extensive. DO NOT get discouraged. It will all come around in time. Keep us posted. I am sure there are others here with better advice than I can give, but at least I am willing, when I have the time. BLessings. Verb -------------------- Keep your puck moving.
www.buddycopywriting.com/copywritinghome/ www.buddywebworks.com www.ryze.com/go/VerbatimEB |
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Oct 3 2007, 02:17 PM
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Copywriter ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 16-September 07 Member No.: 448 |
Hiya Sal and All. You have probably worked on the webpages until you are blue in the face. I know that feeling. We have all been there, done that. At least a lot of us have. There is that rush, urgency and above all, wanting and needing to present our very best to the public. It can become a long and arduous task. Maintenance come into play once you are up and running and the google bot has gobbled up your pages, indexed them and placed them somewhere in with 100,000 or a million other web sites. At this point you find out exactly how much more work you have to do, and sometimes it is extensive. DO NOT get discouraged. It will all come around in time. Keep us posted. I am sure there are others here with better advice than I can give, but at least I am willing, when I have the time. BLessings. Verb Thanks Verb. I'm planning on a complete overhaul. I'll let you know when it's done. -------------------- |
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Oct 8 2007, 01:09 AM
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![]() Copywriter in training ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 22-September 07 Member No.: 482 |
helloo Sal
Nice site. I checked all the links. I take it you own the domain theempoweredsoul? If not, you might consider having a unique domain for a serious business. What CMS are you using? If it's a free sitebuilder from your host, you might have limited options for that online form you want. Drupal has one of the best online form system around. |
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Oct 9 2007, 12:16 PM
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![]() Copywriter in training ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 20-August 07 From: Nottingham, UK Member No.: 303 |
As soon as I load the website. Initial thoughts are that it's cold and unfriendly. Take my copywriting website. As soon as you load it up you get the immediate sense that it's warm and caring. We're not a heartless organisation that simply wants your money and forgets about you. That's not the position we take up and our website mirrors that image.
Thus, your website gives out all the wrong vibes. The top image is exceedingly formal and unwelcoming. As I scroll down I can see it's a trying to sell me something and not really care much for how it turns out. That, for me, is the wrong way to go about business because people end up resenting you. With business you've got to give it your all. You may get some people purchasing your writing services for a short-period, but as soon as they find a website that offers them more, they'll be off. So I would say from that, your business will be a short-lived venture because that's how it portrays itself. -------------------- Wired Flame - Quality article writing and forum population. Talk RSI - Discuss |