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I have been looking around recently and I notice quite a few places offering (and marketing) 11-month CDs. Basically, I am just curious as to what is the reasoning behind 11-month terms vs. 12 month terms? The only thing I could think of would be some kind of asset/liability matching, but I don't really know. I asked two of my professors here at school, and they didn't have a great idea either.

Thanks ahead of time to anyone with input.

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Purely a business move by banks - they offer "odd" month terms because it increases the chances that you will overlook the maturity date and have the funds roll-over automatically to a new term CD.

For instance, it would be easy for you to remember that your CD comes due every April 1, right? But by making it 11 months, you have to remember to make a decision by March 1 - if you don't, the bank gets to earn margin interest on you deposit for another 11 months

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but would probably be good for the 0% bt people. i usually try to stay away from 12 month cd because i feel like it's cutting too close to being able to pay off the bt. but with a 11 month, you could put in 75-80% and keep the rest for min payments.

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11mo CDs are GREAT for a typical 0% balance transfer deal!

But I suspect that banks most often offer unusual terms on promotional CDs, while their "standard" CDs tend to have more normal terms.

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The 11-month CD product was probably created to capture the market for people who want their money tied up for a little less than 1 year.

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Choe and Mark,

Pardon my lack of knowledge regarding CDs, but I am not really familiar with balance transfer terms considering all my transfers in and out of accounts have never had fees. So why is an 11-month term beneficial in regards to balance transfer?

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they are reffering to 0% BT offers that people are getting when doing AOR

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spitz10 said:Choe and Mark,

Pardon my lack of knowledge regarding CDs, but I am not really familiar with balance transfer terms considering all my transfers in and out of accounts have never had fees. So why is an 11-month term beneficial in regards to balance transfer?

Ha, that was going to be my (incorrect, but good for us) answer!

They are talking about utilizing a 0% BT sum of money from a Credit Card. Say you have a 12 month BT offer on your credit card. If you have a 12 month CD, you will end up having to pay 10% interest (or whatever the default after your 0% period is up) for about a week, or however long it takes for the 12 month CD to mature compared to how quick you got your money in. Some cards start their 12 month term the day your account is activated, which means that you won't get your card for at least a week, and can't do a BT until after that. That can make for a two week period of time where if you don't pay the CC off with your own money, you will have to pay interest.

Edit: To sum up, a 11 month CD gives you a month of buffer.

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I think the banks want to be able to advertise a high rate without giving that rate to the large number of people who simply let their CDs roll over (as those people are usually in "normal" length CDs).

Another reason could be because of specific cash flow needs.

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afeld said:spitz10 said:Choe and Mark,

Pardon my lack of knowledge regarding CDs, but I am not really familiar with balance transfer terms considering all my transfers in and out of accounts have never had fees. So why is an 11-month term beneficial in regards to balance transfer?


Ha, that was going to be my (incorrect, but good for us) answer!

They are talking about utilizing a 0% BT sum of money from a Credit Card. Say you have a 12 month BT offer on your credit card. If you have a 12 month CD, you will end up having to pay 10% interest (or whatever the default after your 0% period is up) for about a week, or however long it takes for the 12 month CD to mature compared to how quick you got your money in. Some cards start their 12 month term the day your account is activated, which means that you won't get your card for at least a week, and can't do a BT until after that. That can make for a two week period of time where if you don't pay the CC off with your own money, you will have to pay interest.

Edit: To sum up, a 11 month CD gives you a month of buffer.

So, by banks offering 11-month CDs, are they doing it on purpose to cater to this type of business?

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Conceivably there are other situations in which you have money you have to pay back in a year, so no, I don't think the banks are targeting A0R people specifically.

edit: spelling

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Probably the reason why banks are offering 11 month is so that they can classify the CDs as short term obligations which probably in turn resulted in lower reserve requirement (i.e. they can make more loans with the same capital).

I know in the corporate banking world, many loans are structured as 364-day to take advantage of that.

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CD's of 1 year or less qualify for better tax treatment, specifically all interest is taxable when the CD matures. In contrast, CD's over 1 year have their annual accrued interest taxed each year even if you haven't been paid it (it's just accumulating in the CD). For example, buying 1 year CD's on Jan 1st (maturing next Jan 1st) gives you a year's float on your tax liability whereas buying 364 day CD's (maturing Dec 31st) would get you a tax bill one year earlier (that April 15th, instead of the following one).

This doesn't explain why you'd want an 11 month CD vs a 12 month one, but it's worth keeping in mind.

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Two reasons:
1) They don't want all of their 12 month CDs that are automatically maturing to get the higher promotional rate. They want to target that rate for new customers or new money. Yes, they could just put a stipulation that only new money qualifies for a higher rate, but that ticks off a lot of existing customers.
2) Newspaper and magazine "highest rate" tables usually only list standard maturities like 6 months, 1 year, etc. Getting published in one of those tables attracts a lot of "hot money" that will vanish when the CD matures. They may want to try to attract a more stable base that will stick around and just let the CD renew at whatever rate and that will buy other banking services like loans and checking accounts.

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talljay said:I think the banks want to be able to advertise a high rate without giving that rate to the large number of people who simply let their CDs roll over (as those people are usually in "normal" length CDs).

Another reason could be because of specific cash flow needs.


clampuke said:Two reasons:
1) They don't want all of their 12 month CDs that are automatically maturing to get the higher promotional rate. They want to target that rate for new customers or new money. Yes, they could just put a stipulation that only new money qualifies for a higher rate, but that ticks off a lot of existing customers.
2) Newspaper and magazine "highest rate" tables usually only list standard maturities like 6 months, 1 year, etc. Getting published in one of those tables attracts a lot of "hot money" that will vanish when the CD matures. They may want to try to attract a more stable base that will stick around and just let the CD renew at whatever rate and that will buy other banking services like loans and checking accounts.

Many have provided many good reasons and all those likely play a role in the decision to provide odd-month CDs. But the above posts speak to the most likely and more influential part(s) of the decision.

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My 'guess' is that they advertise a APY percentage and because it is not really a true year, that it is actually less of a amount that they are paying out. Yes, you do get the monthly APY equilivant for the term but it looks better and fools you into thinking you are getting more. Kinda like when gas was priced at 99.9 cents, as it is really a dollar but it looks like it is less than a buck. Whatever reason it is, you can bet it is for the BANKS benefit and not for the benefit of the depositors. The banks never lose.

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Dovetonsils said:Kinda like when gas was priced at 99.9 centsJeez, you old!

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Dovetonsils said:My 'guess' is that they advertise a APY percentage and because it is not really a true year, that it is actually less of a amount that they are paying out. Yes, you do get the monthly APY equilivant for the term but it looks better and fools you into thinking you are getting more. Kinda like when gas was priced at 99.9 cents, as it is really a dollar but it looks like it is less than a buck. Whatever reason it is, you can bet it is for the BANKS benefit and not for the benefit of the depositors. The banks never lose.

I can see your point, but I do not believe that is the case. I say that because I have had 13-mo and 14-mo CDs before.

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cashmonkey said:Dovetonsils said:Kinda like when gas was priced at 99.9 centsJeez, you old!

Actually, I remember paying 27.9 cents and 33.9 cents for premimum gas when driving my dads 1968 Buick Electra. This was for off brand name gas as Shell was selling for 43.9 cents at the time and that Electra drank like it had a hole in the fuel tank. I am not as old as you imagined.

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