August 25, 2007

How the grown-ups talk

The Guardian’s Ewen MacAskill had a good piece the other day about the president’s VFW speech, and included an anecdote in passing that caught my eye.

The speech was aimed primarily at what White House officials privately describe as the “defeatocrats”, the Democratic Congressmen trying to push Mr Bush into an early withdrawal.

In private, presidential aides walk around the White House referring to “defeatocrats”? Seriously?

West Wing conversations now resemble Free Republic threads? I vaguely recall a time in which the political establishment perceived Bush’s election as the return of the “grown ups.” It’s rather amusing, in retrospect.

 
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15 Comments
1.
On August 25th, 2007 at 12:23 pm, JRS Jr said:

If this is true, that type of talk certainly resembles all the “amusing” slang terms thrown around this site refering to the GOP.

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On August 25th, 2007 at 12:25 pm, anney said:

Well, Bush et al have already suffered defeat in Iraq. The label is applied to the wrong faction. And nobody’s trying to push Bush into an early withdrawal. On any reasonable measuring stick, the call for withdrawal comes years too late for thousands of Iraqis and Americans.

But we all know why the Bush administration is acting so tough: it’s those oil field development contracts over which Western oil companies are slavering. Gotta have more time to steal the profits if it’s going to be done right.

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On August 25th, 2007 at 12:30 pm, Anne said:

Curious to know whether the Oval Office rug rolls back to reveal the hidden compartment where the presidential sandbox is located, because that sounds like the kind of place where that talk would be appropriate.

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On August 25th, 2007 at 12:30 pm, Davis X. Machina said:

If this is true, that type of talk certainly resembles all the “amusing” slang terms thrown around this site refering to the GOP

Quick trivia question — which group is running the country?

5.
On August 25th, 2007 at 12:40 pm, lyn5 said:

You have to admit that the Republicans know how to make new nasty words work for them! I only wish Democrats could be that spiteful!

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On August 25th, 2007 at 12:45 pm, Swan said:

If this is true, that type of talk certainly resembles all the “amusing” slang terms thrown around this site refering to the GOP.

Well, the difference is that we’re right. If I was the president, we’d call the Republicans the Dumbocrats in my White House (and we’d use a nickname that sounds like “Democrats” just to annoy them). That’s a story I’d let leak out pretty quick.

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On August 25th, 2007 at 12:46 pm, Swan said:

See, if we do it, JRS, we’re not juvenile- we’re accurate.

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On August 25th, 2007 at 1:29 pm, JKap said:

And they have a nickname for the Constitution in the White House; it’s called “toilet paper.”

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On August 25th, 2007 at 1:50 pm, anney said:

Hey, with Bush’s farting at aides and Turd Blossom and Freedom Fries and the other “dominator” labels that get tagged onto things coming out of this idiotic WH, why should “defeatocrats” be surprising?

A bunch of low-lifes they are, trying to be better than they are…

10.
On August 25th, 2007 at 1:52 pm, Dale said:

Once again it’s the hypocrisy. They came in as the grown-ups and they act childish. They talk about upholding the dignity of the Presidency and act like it’s just another fraternity.

11.
On August 25th, 2007 at 1:57 pm, 2Manchu said:

So much for restoring honor and dignity to the White House.

12.
On August 25th, 2007 at 2:08 pm, Dale said:

Andrew Sullivan got the Atlantic Monthly gig when he was going through a fairly reasonable period, now he’s over there spouting his conservative crap and inviting his buddies in to spout even worse conservative crap. It’s like renting an apartment to a well-dressed young lady, only to find out that her boyfriend works on his motorcylce in the living room. That’s a lot like how Bush got into the White House.

13.
On August 25th, 2007 at 3:16 pm, Dee Loralei said:

Hahaha Anne, the sandbox under the rug totally explains the rugs sunny design.

Man the dignity of the “Republicunts” in the WH is just awe inspiring.

14.
On August 25th, 2007 at 4:47 pm, Swan said:

Of course, the best state for our democracy isn’t that one party always ridicule the other. Rather, that’s the proper state in these circumstances, because one party has become ridiculous.