‘They’re trying to fool you; they’re trying to scare you; and they’re not telling you the truth’
Yesterday, the president, with not-so-subtle language, suggested to the Israeli Knesset that Barack Democrats are Chamberlain-like appeasers because Obama is willing to talk to Iran (just as Bush’s own Defense Secretary and Secretary of State have recommended). As it turns out, Obama had taken the day off from the campaign trail, but the entire party had his back, and quickly and aggressively pushed back against Bush — and against John McCain for applauding Bush’s smear.
But that was yesterday. Today, Obama campaigned in South Dakota, and demonstrated that he’s not going to give an inch of ground to Bush, McCain, or the GOP on foreign policy, statecraft, national security, and military matters.
“They’re trying to fool you. They’re trying to scare you. And they’re not telling you the truth [because] they can’t win a foreign policy debate on the merits,” Obama said. He went on to call the Bush/McCain approach “naive and irresponsible.”
This is what campaigns are all about. Forget pins and preachers — the president and his would-be Republican successor have a specific, misguided worldview about America’s role in the world, and how we can use our international influence to the world’s benefit. That is to say, a failed worldview, which Republicans are anxious to pursue for another four years, starting in 2009. To get there, Bush, McCain, and their cohorts are returning to the cheap and predictable talking points that have gotten them this far — those who reject their ideas are “weak,” “naive,” and putting the nation at risk.
Which is why it’s so encouraging to hear Obama step up and say, “Not this time.”
A year ago, it seemed to me that Obama, when pressed on foreign policy, sounded hesitant and unsure of himself. He said all the right things, but with a certain timidity and uncertainty.
Watching Obama this afternoon, that apprehension is gone, replaced with the confidence of a candidate who knows he’s right, and anxious to prove it to the electorate. He wasn’t enraged this morning by Republican cheap shots; he was practically amused that Bush and McCain could be so foolish and irresponsible.
From a political perspective, as Greg Sargent explained well, this is the ground on which Obama wants to fight.
The fight is one that the Obama campaign is eager to have, because it accomplishes two things. First, it forces McCain to stand by Bush, making it easier to tie them together. And second, it puts Obama, sans Hillary, on the same stage as the current Republican president and his would-be successor, making the Dem primary seem a bit like a distant memory.
“If George Bush and John McCain want to have a debate about protecting the United States of America, that is a debate I am happy to have any time,” Obama said. “That is a debate that I will win.”
He proceeded to rattle off all the things Bush and McCain have to “answer for.” The unnecessary Iraq War. The phantom WMDs. The strengthening of Iran. The fact that “Hamas now controls Gaza.” And the fact that Osama Bin Laden is “sending out video tapes with impunity.”
And from a policy perspective, as Ben Smith’s post noted, Obama has no shortage of policy specifics on which to press McCain.
“They’ll have to explain why Hamas now controls Gaza — Hamas that was strengthened because the us insisted that we have democratic elections in the Palestinian Authority,” he said.
McCain “still hasn’t spelled out one substantial way that he’d be different from GB when it comes to foreign policy,” Obama said, accusing both of “dishonest, divisive attacks.”
He also mocked McCain’s opposition to talking to Hamas in light of an interview McCain gave two years ago in which he appeared to support talking to Hamas.
You know, after months of malaise, I’m actually starting to enjoy this campaign again.
Crisp, clear, forceful, on the right side of the policy and the right side of American popular opinion. And fearless.
I agree Steve, I’m really starting to enjoy this.
(After being embarrassed by my fellow WVinians on Tuesday, I needed soemthing to improve my spirits.)
WHY WON’T ANYONE LISTEN TO ME????!!!!!!!!! THE CAP LOCK’S ON!!!!!!!!!!
you’re screwed.
but but what about gays getting married? or pins? or preachers? did he call somebody else sweetie again? I hope now that this is getting more serious that any attempt to drag this back to issues that don’t matter at all are seen as pathetic, and the people that try to push them that way start looking even stupidier.
Obama is every bit the leader I suspected he was. He’s on his game. Funny how that’s all it took and suddenly the entire wimp Democratic “leadership” has his back. I think I’m REALLY going to enjoy this campaign. (Hillary who?)
Yesterday was the best day for Democrats when they all stood together and called Bush and McCain out on their bull. Biden, Clinton, Kerry, Obama, Pelosi…it was beautiful. Even Clinton supporters like Paul Begala and James Rubin. If the Democrats can stand together, they’ll have no problem defeating McBush in the fall.
And second, it puts Obama, sans Hillary, on the same stage as the current Republican president and his would-be successor, making the Dem primary seem a bit like a distant memory. – Greg Sargent
I’d go one step further. Obama is debating Bush directly, with Bush an active participant. Even though Obama mentions McCain, it makes him look like a second tier hanger-on. It’s not only Hillary who? It’s also has that what’s-his-name feel to it. I hope Bush makes these direct or oblique-in-an-obvious-way remarks more often.
In past campaigns it seems that the Democrats always started out on the defensive, were defined by their opponents, and never got up to speed.
Not this time. Not this year.
This statement is what I’ve been waiting for and why I wanted the primary to end.
I’ve been on strike until we had a nominee. It was too frustrating having supporters of each candidate undermine what should have been unified party push-back. It was simply impossible to fight back against this kind of Nazi business until we had our nominee, and now we do, and the fun begins.
But then again, the GOP’s studying Zimbabwe with particular interest for fresh and innovative ways by which the Dick Dastardly Brigade can pervert the electoral process beyond merely asking for “approriate” identification documents @ the polling station.
*sniff sniff* What’s that smell? Wow – is that fresh air? It’s been so long I’m not sure I recognize it.
Obama is smart to point out the Republicans’ credibility deficit first and often. By reminding people of the sheer volume of lies that McCain’s hugging buddy has peddled, he undercuts every word that McCain will ever utter.
Go Barack. Go for the throat.
You know, after months of malaise, I’m actually starting to enjoy this campaign again.
I just heard on the radio that Bush’s trip to Saudi Arabia, to ask them to please lower their oil prices or increase production, resulted in a big fat “No!” from his buddies there.
What a maroon!
Get ready for a long summer, Republicans. It’s go time, you fuckers.
As it turns out, Obama had taken the day off from the campaign trail
I’d say he made good use of the day. Here’s the letter he sent VA Secretary Peake about the PTSD memo:
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/05/obama_calls_for_investigation.php#more
Obama is giving a press conference now, and knocking every question out of the damn park.
…this is the ground on which Obama wants to fight.
And it is extremely good ground upon which to wage this war; this “Second American Revolution” in which the forces of pompous ideological tyranny, of fascist profit-mongering, of illegal war, of theft, of graft, and of political corruption are all put up against the wall—and thoroughly beaten into both submission and oblivion.
If Obama is so ashamed of his appeasement policy towards America’s enemies, then perhaps if should change it, and have someone re-write his stump-speeches.
Ed @ 13, about Shrub groveling for oil in Arabia, the dirty little secret is that the world is nearly tapped on production capacity. NOW can we please have a viable energy policy please?
KarmiCommunist must be right-wing radio host Kevin James. Neither one seems to understand what “appeasement” means.
Obama’s in a better position to make this argument than Clinton. Old news, I know, but I’m glad he won the primary. It’s for the best for America.
KCommunist, “stump speeches” shouldn’t be hyphenated. Also, you’re getting your talking points crossed up– you’re supposed to fall back on plausible deniability/feigned surprise. “The president didn’t mention Obama! Why, how could anyone think that’s what he was talking about?”
#18 KarmiCommunist – your post doesn’t make sense even from a language perspective – you may want to go easy on the Kevin James radio show and pick up a book or two instead.
Here comes my second “I told you so” in 24 hours. I warned you fools that by embracing diplomacy, Obama was opening himself up to Republican accusations of being an appeaser. Hillary recognized this political reality and immunized herself against such attacks by proactively threatening to bomb the billy-ho out of Iran.
Like her brilliant gas tax holiday strategy, it shows she has a far superior political acumen to Obama’s. In fact, I wish she’d have embraced the entire Republican platform without reservations. I would have in her place.
Can I just say much I enjoy now having the Kevin James silo to dump all our wingnut trolls into? Thanks to him, the presumption of ignorance is the new legal standard for dealing with these dittoheaded mouthbreathers.
Bush didn’t even mention Barack’s name. Barack is such a whiner and defensive! How can this man be in charge of the most powerful country in the world if he is going to over react to every little thing someone says. BE A MAN BARACK!!!!!
He probably will send his wife to beat them up
Was there anything factually wrong with what he said, especially within a historical context? I don’t think so. The reaction of the Democrats and Obama is very telling. The overreaction and responses suggest that the Dems think themselves very vulnerable to such a comparison…and why would that be…..
How can you just sit down with countries that are terrorizing and killing people.
Barack is inexperienced, arrogant, and naive!
It is a good speech.
But…
Note to Barack’s camp:
He needs to commit it to memory and polish it up.
Make it into a standard stump speech… right now…
And run hard with it for the next two weeks.
That 21% lead that McCain has in regards to “keeping us safe” needs heavy chiseling.
Get to work on it… pronto.
Barack Hussein Osama will do nothing to protect this country if we or our allies are attacked.
He will sit down and have tea with them!!
Can you say Jimmy Carter – 2nd term and incompetent!!!
While I support Sen. Obama’s willingness to engage in diplomacy, I found parts of his speech disappointing: Hamas and Hezbollah are enemies of the U.S.? Last I checked Hamas was the democratically elected majority in the Gaza Strip, and Hezbollah is a strictly anti-Israeli guerrilla movement.
Now, before I can be accused of being a terrorist-loving anti-semite, let me categorically denounce violent attacks on civilians (regardless of the perpetrators). Nonetheless, let me also express a desire for a more, dare I say… nuanced rhetoric from the good Senator, who I admittedly hope becomes our next President.
On another note, did anyone else notice the news about Pres. Bush’s discussion of civilian nuclear power during his visit to Saudi Arabia? Let us hope sufficient attention is payed to the hypocracy of allowing nuclear power in an oil-rich, human-rights-violating, Islamic autocracy that is our ally, while simultaneously vilifying the same thing in a similar country with which we aren’t on such friendly relations…
we really need better trolls…
we really need better trolls…
Actually it is a wonderful barometer.
When republicans whine about whining you know the punch has landed hard and you are wining.
But like I wrote: this speech wants polishing and memorizing.
If he can find the cadence with it… it is huge barrage of combo-punches.
russ, i rather suspect – this week in particular – that the more moderate (and i use that term in the most relative sense) government of Lebanon would disagree that Hezbollah is a “strictly anti-Israeli” movement. there are not a lot of Israelis on the streets of Beirut, but there has been a lot of guerrilla violence.
#29 petey – “Barack Hussein Osama will do nothing to protect this country if we or our allies are attacked.”
umm, actually Democrats will protect the country BEFORE it is attacked, unlike Bush who let 9/11 happen on his watch.
Twenty million dead. Minimum.
#27 Tim said: How can you just sit down with countries that are terrorizing and killing people.
What is Bush doing in Israel then? Google “The Iron Wall” and you’ll see who the real terrists are.
Well, it’s not president who destroying this country. It’s CNN, CBS and others like them who really dump they own country. Liberals like Obama are communists. And why voting for them to get to the communism, let’s invite Castro and he will brings us there much faster than these red commies Obama, Clinton or Pelosi. I’m telling it you guys. You are just naively blind people. You letting some ambitious liberal media and liberal democrats killing this country. It will happen. Secondly, whole world watching this stupidity of America, and laughing at Americans how stupid they are trashing they own country through CNN. And btw, for some crazy reason I just don’t think we have democratic party, I think I want to call it “DEMONOcratic’ party. Good luck to you…
Mark Pencil @ #33:
“the more moderate (and i use that term in the most relative sense) government of Lebanon would disagree that Hezbollah is a “strictly anti-Israeli” movement”
Fair enough. Perhaps “predominantly anti-Isreali” is a better descriptor. Certainly, recent history in the region, including the Isreali invasion and bombardment of Lebanon a couple years back adds a few layers of complexity. However, the point remains that its a stretch to label Hezbollah as an “anti-American” organization.
One thing that continually amazes me about conservatives is how totally weak they imagine America to be. Not only can America be ruined simply by acknowledging the bad things its government and citizens have done, but our enemies win just by us sitting down to talk to them. According to dopes like Kevin James, Iran is stronger than us and we’d be talking to them from a position of weakness. Yet, if anyone has made us weaker, it’s dopes like Bush and Cheney, and STILL we’re far superior to Iran in every way (strategically speaking, of course, and not culturally, as that’s relative). America should have nothing to fear by talking to Iran.
What is wrong with these people? Why can’t they understand how resilient Americans are or how America is the strongest nation in world history? It’s obvious that all of these people are cowards inside and need to project strength in order to mask all the weakness they feel towards themselves and our country. It’s really quite sad when you think about it.
h9 –
thanks for the chuckle. yes, yes, i iz a Commoonist. but since you’ve dropped by, do tell me – that conservative movement of yours – what great results has that gotten in the last, oh, 8 years?
i can wait. (by the way, if we were a little more socialized you could afford your meds. you should reconsider.)
Mark: “Was there anything factually wrong with what he said, especially within a historical context? I don’t think so.”
You don’t “think” so, because you’re doing too much thinking and not enough history-learning. The problem with Iran is far less like 1939 Germany and far MORE like October 1962 Cuba. So you would have preferred Kennedy had ignored Kruschev entirely? The entire frigging Cold War was won based on a policy of strategic diplomacy. So yeah, “appeasement” didn’t work in 1938. Big deal. “Appeasement” involved handing over half of Yugoslavia to get Hitler to give us nothing. No one has ever said anything about giving Iran or Hamas anything except the chance to sit down in front of the leader of the United States and hear what we want to tell them, face to face. Diplomacy isn’t about giving your opponent what they want, it’s about cutting through the crap and making them give you what you want without losing anything of value in the first place. Perfect example: Cuban Missile Crisis. Kennedy got the missiles out of Cuba, avoided international nuclear war, and all he had to do was take our missiles out of Turkey. That’s all Kruschev wanted. And considering it resulted in no nukes ever being fired and in America coming out on top… it seems like “appeasement” (as Bush erroneously defines it) worked out just fine for America. Wouldn’t you “think”?
Bill Clinton allowed 9/11
Senator Obama can’t spell national defense yet nor does he have any understanding or regard for the armed forces. All Obama has shown so far is rettoric, a bad temper and bad judgement.
Vicky@42:
So, are you saying Bush was powerless to stop it? Please elaborate. I’m curious.
I agree with you “Doctor Biobrain” about
stop it, you’re killing me
Senator Obama can’t spell . . . All Obama has shown so far is rettoric
must. . . stop. . . laughing. . . and. . . breathe. . .
#43, meet #46. You have been PWNd!
h9, i think most of us here would have given him a chance to be “our” President, particularly right after 9/11/01. Instead, he exploited that opportunity to screw most of us, and most of the rest of the world, over. he made the choice to be the President of the few – watch Farenheit 9/11, where Bush all too accurately looks out on a crowd of rich people in tuxedos and refers to them as “his base.”
and if in fact you left a communist country to come here, you of all people should understand that the press repeating the “good news” that makes the government look the best doesn’t change the reality on the ground. if the economy is bad, the press covering it up doesn’t make the economy good. a fundamental, founding belief of the country you came to is that shining a spotlight on government — even if it is bad in the short run — is in the best interest of the people in the long run.
What is wrong with these people? Why can’t they understand how resilient Americans are or how America is the strongest nation in world history?
It’s a classic technique, designed to make those who would question authority shut up and follow. If you can convince everyone that you’re surrounded by people who are about to kill you, then any questions you might have about your own leadership must be suspended. The “conservative” mindset is actually Authoritarian, and the book by John Dean is a good reference.
http://www.amazon.com/Conservatives-Without-Conscience-John-Dean/dp/0670037745
Correction Mark in Pencil.
Sorry Jzamdag….trying to muti task. Didnt forget about you.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/
Not saying he was powerless…saying Clinton had the chance and passed it up.
Mark,
to me, press is part of the scam and they are communists. as far as bad-mouthing your own country is not the same to be objective to yourself. For example, let’s say you have a family, wife and few children. Let’s say you have issues in your family. Why don’t you just talk about your family internal stuff to your neighbors? So, you or your wife become a better person? I tell you what,.. may be it’s not the best illustration, but my country is my family now. and when my country struggles then I’m struggle with it too. also, bad mouthing is still a bad business. As far as Obama goes, I tell you what, when he will became the president of the ‘most powerful’ country then we will see how he will handle the business. But, I would say without lip-service of CNN and their ‘brown nose’. I’m trying to say here that liberal media will always, or in most of the cases, will kiss ass of democratic president. And of course, they will screw the conservative president. Oh, btw, McCain is a bad choice completely! He is not republican and old and weak. So, how he can be an opponent to Obama or Clinton? just for thought…
Mary, Mother of Odd, are you any relation to Insane Fake Professor by any chance????
Inquiring minds want to know!
You know, while it’s been great to have such brilliant satirists around as Insane Fake Professor, the downside is that I’m not sure which posts are wingnut trolls and which posts are parody. The trolls come across as so stupid that I can hardly believe they’re serious.
Did IFP ever come out of the closet?
Vicky – let’s not forget that Clinton was also responsible for the Lindberg baby kidnapping, Kennedy’s assasination, and your mother dropping you on your head when you were a baby!
Please, you seem so desperate when you resort to the “It’s Clintons fault/Clinton did it, too!” memes. I still have not heard any apologies for the branding of the “Monica Missles.”
Bush is the screw-up, accept it. Or at least start the grieving process for your Republcan ways. You’ve done Denial, perhaps this comment will move you to Anger…..
Nice to see that mouthbreathing Hillarybots dee, Mark and tim have yet to get the memo. Unfortunately, kicking morons soon becomes as boring as shooting them in barrels.
Wow, gotta hand it to #37 for the prize of World’s Most Ignorant Wingnut, and he even managed it not knowing English!
oh, no you don’t Tom. as a Clinton supporter, let me just state clearly that the Mark-tim-dee is (note the singular; i doubt we’re really dealing with plural) not one of ours. nor Greg for that matter. Mary we may be stuck with; its a little hard to tell sometimes. but as for Mark-tim-dee (sounds like a small chirping bird), there’s no way you can make that charge stick.
Beg to differ. Mark is not with tim and dee. Totally different style and usage. petey is another tim/dee sockpuppet, though. Can you believe it takes her/him 2 minutes to write those posts?
But he’s black. And his wife hates whitey. There’s a tape.
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Crap!!
I really, really hate the auto emoticon feature. It took the funny out of my picture.
**hangs head**
Oh, good, it’s not just me. I’m all, what the hell is that?
thanks for the laugh-gotta run
Oh and BuzzMon (nice name) no anger here sweetie.
Admiral Akbar (sp?) from Return of the Jedi. Got if off of Fark.com.
Yes, I’m a geek. And yes, I’m okay with that.
🙂
Damn. I thought it was a clam. There was just something bivalvular about it.
At least Senator Obama has gotten the message that when those Repubs. attack they have to be responded to immediately and forcefully. That is something that some of our previous candidates had not done too well and it hurt us.
How can you just sit down with countries that are terrorizing and killing people.
Well, “W” did at least ask them if they’d help us with the oil situation before they told him no. Maybe that holdin’-hands picture wasn’t such a good idea after all …
But he’s black. And his wife hates whitey. There’s a tape.
OMG Shoez.
Bush may find his Hitler remarks backfiring on him considering his own well documented family history of appeasement, support and money laundering for Hitler:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8783
http://newsmine.org/archive/cabal-elite/families/bush-dynasty/bush-family-fortune-from-nazis-dutch-connection.txt
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/012303A.ma.dead.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0925-01.htm
http://ecosyn.us/Bush-Hitler/Bush-Hitler.html
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ROG309A.html
I don’t think bivalvulvalar is an apropriate worfd for a family-oriented blog.
Man, that Vicky, Martin, petey three-slap took me back a couple of years.
As Georgie’s slide became a freefall,
there be a flood of trollbot posts in the comments
here and elsewhere
everytime he stepped in it again.
I thought Mark D’s #62 art was La Pieta. Didn’t get the relevance, but was impressed, nonetheless.
Are all the democrats victims. Obama hissy fit about comments that were not even intended for him is ridiculous. Oh please big government, HELP ME, I’m a victim. We don’t need 4 more years of Jimmy Carter.
Wow – either we got an exceptional netful of trolls with this post, or Kevin James has gone totally schizoid and started writing to us from every personality that pops up. Or maybe these trolls are some sort of androids and they’re short-circuiting because of the intense feedback to their “leaders'” stupid stuff yesterday. I mean trolls never make much sense, but I don’t remember them ever being this incoherent!
Someone above said how much they like having Kevin James as the convenient receptacle for trolls – if we notice them at all, we can brush them off with “that’s almost as dumb as/even more stupid than something KJ would say.
Remember – there are only two kinds of Publicans – millionaires and suckers!
Stephen1947, there are only 2 kinds of democrats – thumbsucking elitists (who would be the first killed if the beloved terriosts take over) and the poor ignorant masses who think government is the answer. You are a victim. I bet you got picked on in elementary school for being a pussy. Am I right?
…How can you just sit down with countries that are terrorizing and killing people…
Well, people talk to our country..
Locanicole, are you a victim? I think you need to leave the country and become a citizen of Cuba or Venezuela, or maybe Russia or China.
BDS, just because I’m not a bully doesn’t mean I’m a victim…karma, baby…
BDS. . . BDS. . . oh yeah, here it is. Brain Diminishment Syndrome. Symptoms include misplaced arrogance, antisocial behaviours, simplistic thinking and living in your mommas basement typing on an old 386 box. While the exact cause in unknown, correlation is high with conservative political beliefs.
Y’all ought leave him alone. He’s clinical and probably can’t help it.
What is foolish and scary, is moving America away from it’s traditional Biblical foundations. And this is exactly what Obama would do as President and why we cant have him as leader of the greatest country on earth.
I hope President Bush will destroy Iran before Obama gets a chance to sell us out to them!
What are the changes of Obama beating McGain at the moment?? I really really hope that Bush number 2 willnot be elected. Besides denouncing some one just because his middle name is hussain is very racist. Hopefully it is just the opinion of mister petey and not the opinion of the typical american…
Dr. Ted Baehr: Dr. of what!!!
This is a general reply to a few nonsensical posts I’ve spotted here. Bush was not telling the truth, and nor was McCain. I’ve waited 8 years before admitting to myself that those two men must be two of the DUMBEST high profile politicians of their generation. Thus, side with them at the risk of being thought stupid and a fool!
BTW: It wasn’t necessary for Bush to mention Obama’s name. We have something in law called “innuendo”. Look it up.
For those of you who think the Democrats were wrong for firing back at Bush, please don’t vote in November. You will surely make Plato turn in his grave.
BobSF
SJJOAPS! We do need better trolls! I mean, would it hurt y’all to use a spellchecker….and a grammar textbook…..and a history book…..and learn how to breathe properly to insure an adequate supply of oxygen to your brain cells?
Oh, right……
It is laughable to see Bush accuse anyone of being an appeaser and to use that term in the same context as Hilter – Bush’s grandfather, Preston Bush, was not only an appeaser of Hilter, but his financier as well. This moron is unbelievable!
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/jewish_pespective.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar
Holy crap are there a lot of retards who come to post here to, apparently, show just how paranoid, dellusional, and fearful they really are. Come back to the light your f*cking crazies! The truth shall set you free.
Wow the trolls on here are offended! BWAHAHA! What, does Obama’s speeches make your head explode? Facts are difficult to digest sometimes, you know….