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I wonder what legal ramifications will come from this.

I sell alot on ebay and was suprised to see the new feedback system. i understand what there trying to do and i feel that a buyer should leave honest feedback without feeling if they left a negative they would get one in return.

HOWEVER

Ive had 2 problems with 2 buyers.

I sold an item 9days ago and sold another item 14 days ago.

no payment has been recieved so after the 7th day i opend an unpaid item dispute. the 2 ebayers gave excuses about payment so on the 14th and 9th day i closed dispute and put a strike onto there account.

you know what i got in return.

2 NEGATIVES

Complete lies in the negatives. so i rung ebay and told them. i asked them to remove feedback and they said NO.

so they won the items, didnt pay, and left me a negative.

NEGATIVES SHOW UNPAID ITEM STRIKES DONT!!

Under the circumstances above i feel sellers should be able to leave a negative feedback. this way it warns other sellers. Also i feel they should increase our buyer preferences so we can block buyers who have left say more than 3negatives in 1 week etc.

I'm totally discusted now so i sent ebay a goodbye message as i will no longer sell on there site if this is how it is.

sellers make there site what it is. we keep it running. if it wasnt for us they would be nothing. now the sellers are decreasing and ebay are going downhill. ive been a memeber since 1999 and i sell around 100 items every month. well i did anyway. sarah

A friend of mine started selling on Ebay one year ago. He put hard work and a lot of time to build his business and good reputation. He had 120 feedbacks and over 200 sells with a 99.8% rating.

Last March 27th he went to ATM to cash money to send to supplier and he could not draw any. He went home to find out that he had a $98.00 dollars dispute. He checked the allegations of buyer who said the item hasn't been delivered. He had the support of two couriers companies which stated that the item was delivered. Paypal froze all the money in the account which was about $2,600.00 and when contacted they suggested to refund the buyer. Meanwhile another buyer could not figure out how to use his device and put an unecessary dispute, which was only a matter of using his policy of 100% satisfaction guarantee. It was justa a matter of retuning the item for refund and everybody was going to be happy. For few days Paypal site was not functional for isuing that refund and they asked to authorize them to provide it.

He told them, he begged them to release the money for it was meant to buy goods for paying customers and if not released, there would more and more complains for no one wants to wait forever. They never did anything and one month later when they lifted the block, he had received several negative feedbacks on eBay, several neutrals and 2 disputes on eBay, and $360.00 on Paypal because he had to refund all and the money left was not enough to buy for the remaining buyers. Ebay in other hand has tried to collect money from his bank account including unpaid items, refunded items due to Paypal block.

When he told Paypal that he could not afford to refund because he has not only the buying value of shipping plus produts and also what was meant to be profit, Paypal said that not delivering a product that a customer buy constituted fraud. They told him to buy it and send.

Meanwhile, one buyer complained  at eBay thet he had bought two items and received none. One was checked and the tracking number leaded to be at Customs in Belgium. When told about it the customer said plainly that he did not wanted to pay for customs. My friend description was clear that he is not responsible for customs. It's the buyer's responsibility to deal with that for he cannot deal with laws, rules and regulations of the United States and much less with the policies of other countries. Teh other item was not shipped and therefore was refundable.

Once the block was lifted, my friend listed more items on eBay trying to compensate for the lost time and money and move forward. One buyer paid on Paypal but Paypal again would not let the money available to him saying that his account had issues on eBay... issues that Paypal intentionally caused. Pyapal sent him an e-mail saying that was only releasing the funds when the item was shipped, delivered and he received a good feedback.

While the buyer's money was stuck on Paypal I have no idea if Paypal cashed on interrest form that money... so one is not enough, they may have framed several sellers and buyers to fulfil their own agenda in total disrespect to the seller and the buyers.

My friend is outraged and need legal advise. If any good lawyer want to take his case, please contact him at 123superstore@gmail.com.

This a case were he was caused to forfeit, he was framed by Paypal. Lost money and reputation and can yet be called on fraud charges. He was really framed by the stinky combination of these two entities.

Please pass along..

Nelson

i have been with ebay for ten years and am totally disgusted with their greediness, they even charge to revise an item, to revise an item, what the heck are they thinking!  and i have for awhile refused to accept paypal because of the charges...unbelievable!  why didn't they leave well enough alone, you can tell the original owner has left the scene and some very greedy capitalistic jerks are now running the show! i just listed something a few minutes ago and then decided to look on the web to see if others have my concerns about ebay, they do, and the item i just listed will be my last  on ebay, i will not sell or buy on ebay and will close my account...i am so excited that there  are other options to pursue. thanks for the info.

I haven't sold on ebay in almost two and a half years.....I started my business out on ebay, but once my business took off...I no longer needed them. I could see this disaster coming on a long time ago. I'm glad I left long ago......Now I don't have to worry about being pushed around by some giant....... Those that stay will continue to be stepped on.......Good luck!

eBay will loose the big sellers in short time, as even I am also starting to close the deal with ebay.

indian Paisa Pay Policies, high Value FVF and Listing fees are very high @. We cant afford in this marketive field.

Kind Regards,

Chinmay Tripathi

I was, like so many others, shocked that Ebay would put the burden of fee changes on the lower levels of sales.  And then to take away the sellers voice and market information was devastating.  Afterall, if a buyer is unhappy in your physical store, there are a lot less people who hear the ruckus and they can hear your reply to the unhappy situation on the spot.  So if the disgruntled buyer is just a nut, and wants to make trouble over nothing, those standing around can make a better judgement. 

The way Ebay wants to leave us out on the line to dry while a buyer justly or unjustly accuses us under the reading of billions of Ebayers worldwide and then give us no forum to explain the other side... Well it just isn't "fine and dandy!"

I certainly hope Ebay gets back on track soon.  It is such a shame.  I have always used a variety of means to sell, but I was just getting educated on opening an Ebay store.  Now I just don't know if it would pay me to go to the trouble.  Once I get it up and running, they will probably just price me out of the market in a year or two.  I'm sure once they start increasing their take on my bottom line, it just won't stop there, so my future with Ebay looks a little i-f-f-y at this point.

Hoping for a brighter tomorrow!!

Personally I've never taken a great deal of active interest in my seller feedback. The 40% increase in fees is a bit more concerning - luckily I'm a silver powerseller, which actually means cheaper fees - but this might hurt smaller firms!

Strike and strike until changes are made, like ax Bill Cobb. Unless positive changes are made don't go back to ebay. Don't make it one week, that does no good. Reduce the final value fees, reduce listing fees, don't change feedback and leave paypal alone. If this doesn't happen, I will not be back. I have been there 10 years and ebay has gone from a friendly place to gestapo like. STRIKE EBAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BOYCOTT EBAY....

l.a.s