The drug Mr Hill needs is called Tarceva. It is available for free in Scotland but not in England, as the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence found it was not "an effective use of NHS resources".

Sounds like another 'win' for socialized medicine.

Bah!

Let me get back to slicing them onions.

she should raise the money for some new teeth for herself

Or rather "Dad pimps out six-year-old daughter to raise money for his cancer drugs".

/has he no shame?

Those drugs shouldn't cost £4,000 period. What's the price of a human life these days anyway?

what an attention whore

/just kidding folks

//dont forget sweetie, that will be taxed

Pinhedd: Those drugs shouldn't cost £4,000 period. What's the price of a human life these days anyway?

Less than 4000 pounds, according to the NHS.

Weaver95

Sounds like another 'win' for socialised medicine.

FIFY

Pinhedd: Those drugs shouldn't cost £4,000 period. What's the price of a human life these days anyway?

My life insurance company gave me a quote.

If he had private insurance; the dad would get meds he needs, she would get a pony and the doctor would be able to golf on weekends instead of selling back alley abortions.

Axis of Weasel Quote 2007-10-27 12:02:36 AM
YOURE DADDYS GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?

YOU ARE DADDYS (plural?) GBTS

Weaver95: The drug Mr Hill needs is called Tarceva. It is available for free in Scotland but not in England, as the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence found it was not "an effective use of NHS resources".

Sounds like another 'win' for socialized medicine.

Funny that. In the US, some HMOs will pay for Tarceva, and others refuse to, calling it "experimental". Sounds like another win for privatized medicine!

Of course, if that was in a country that doesn't have socialised medicine, she'd already be a crack whore and her father would have been shot with a 'fully automatic hunting rifle' in a post office incident years ago.

Weaver95 : Sounds like another 'win' for socialized medicine.

We're going to raise your taxes to pay for free universal healthcare and you're going to like it, Weaver.

Axis of Weasel: YOURE DADDYS GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

This is Fark and all, but damn.

that's hot

ok but what's that in real money?

Pinhedd: Those drugs shouldn't cost £4,000 period. What's the price of a human life these days anyway?

Life is the cheapest thing there is.

Axis of Weasel: YOURE DADDYS GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

So are you asshat!

Because we all know no one goes without expensive medicine under America's for-the-corporations health care system.

Weaver95: Sounds like another 'win' for socialized medicine.

Obviously the treatment is still available in Britain, you just have to pay for it out of your own pocket...which is totally unlike how that scenario would've played out in America.

You read through the news and come across scandal and fluff stories that leave you bitter and hating the world. Then, something like this comes along...and you feel no different because all the other bullshiat has jaded you from actually caring about anything or anyone but yourself.

Pinhedd: Those drugs shouldn't cost £4,000 period. What's the price of a human life these days anyway?

Yes I agree that they shouldn't. However, they do. Medical research is expensive as fark and the FDA makes things much harder than it should be.

As mentioned before, in the large scheme of things, human life itself is a cheap commodity. There are over 6 billion so we are in no danger of running out. Educated/skilled humans, those we are more short of depending on what area they are educated in.

Madadder: You read through the news and come across scandal and fluff stories that leave you bitter and hating the world. Then, something like this comes along...and you feel no different because all the other bullshiat has jaded you from actually caring about anything or anyone but yourself.

Guitar Hero 3 comes out on Sunday.

Ill drink to that

So the cure for cancer has been just 4,000 pounds away all this time?

Okay, now I've read the article (well looked at the picture anyway) and all I want to know is how Robert Patrick doesn't have a few thousand pounds. Where is all that X-Files and Terminator money?

Not even one " Dude, shes 6. " ? You fail me fark.

Fark has been a great internet based social experiment; the conclusion is we all FAIL!!

caseysmind: Not even one " Dude, shes 6. " ? You fail me fark.

I'll get to it once I'm done fapping.

That girl's face is the material of my next nightmare. Good for her for what she did, though.

Too bad it doesn't matter, his time is running out...

So does anyone think they'll report it if he dies anyway?

The article says he's still going to die.

Barakku: caseysmind: Not even one " Dude, shes 6. " ? You fail me fark.

I'll get to it once I'm done fapping.

Im glad there is someone I can count on when I start to believe the world isnt filled with perverts and psychos. I just didnt want to be alone.

PS That would be a nice update. " 6 year old learns any attempt at life is futile after raising money in an attempt to save her father is smacked down by god / bad doctors / what ever else you hate. "

Just imagine the day when the socialist medicine system declares eggs and butter public enemy #1


Lipidleggin (new window)

That's awesome.

I think this little girl is an amazing example of a hero. I mean, she is being selfidh, and wouldn;t give a fark if it was someone else's daddy,. but go ahead.

Praise her.

Oh my god, that's fokin' adorable.

I apparently missed Michael Moore's follow-up coverage from his Sicko project. I thought socialized medicine was utopia.

Leighsah: I apparently missed Michael Moore's follow-up coverage from his Sicko project. I thought socialized medicine was utopia.

It's like FREE money!

Barakku: Pinhedd: Those drugs shouldn't cost £4,000 period. What's the price of a human life these days anyway?Less than 4000 pounds, according to the NHS.

If the drug was guaranteed to save his life for £4000, they would have paid. Actually, it boosts survival at one year (or so say its creators) from 20% to 30%. The bean counters at NICE did some math and decided they could save more lives by spending that money elsewhere. Welcome to socialism.

Meanwhile, in the USA, my HMO tells me what drugs I can and can't have. Fortunately for me, I don't have cancer, but I got a long list in the mail of things I can't get, and I was recently told I could not have a course of treatment that costs a little under $200 retail.

The US comes out ahead of Europe in overall cancer survival, so it's not all bad for us. I think we should make it our objective to cover everybody, but I would not advocate the wholesale adoption of a British style system.

Even with the meds the girl and her father will die...its a fact of life. We can cure sickness and slow aging but we still cannot prevent death. The Guennis truck may run them over tomorrow.

Captain Darling: The US comes out ahead of Europe in overall cancer survival, so it's not all bad for us. I think we should make it our objective to cover everybody, but I would not advocate the wholesale adoption of a British style system.

No politician has advocated the "wholesale adoption of a British style system" in the US. They've either advocated universal coverage through mandatory private insurance with government insurance (expanded medicare) for those too poor to afford private coverage (Hillary's proposal) or government run, single payer universal health insurance coverage (Conyers/Kucinich HR 676). Essentially nobody has advocated socialized medicine in the US.

It's lung cancer... he's pretty much farked. I believe the 3 year survival rates are around 5-10%.

FTFA: "Mr Hill, 45, a builder, was diagnosed with lung cancer in December."

Betcha he'd have saved a lot more than 4,000 quid if he hadn't smoked...oh, but then he wouldn't need the drugs anyway. Maybe he coulda paid for a dentist for his daughter. Though, it's England, and I don't think there are any dentists over there, so nevermind.

and...

"Although it is not a cure, Tarceva has been shown to extend the lives of patients with cancers such as Mr Hill's and to improve their quality of life."

I have a friend's mother who's on Tarceva for breast cancer. It is a freakin' miracle drug. And it ain't a cure, but her private health insurance is picking up the tab.

Captain Darling: Barakku: Pinhedd: Those drugs shouldn't cost £4,000 period. What's the price of a human life these days anyway?Less than 4000 pounds, according to the NHS.

If the drug was guaranteed to save his life for £4000, they would have paid. Actually, it boosts survival at one year (or so say its creators) from 20% to 30%. The bean counters at NICE did some math and decided they could save more lives by spending that money elsewhere. Welcome to socialism.

Meanwhile, in the USA, my HMO tells me what drugs I can and can't have. Fortunately for me, I don't have cancer, but I got a long list in the mail of things I can't get, and I was recently told I could not have a course of treatment that costs a little under $200 retail.

The US comes out ahead of Europe in overall cancer survival, so it's not all bad for us. I think we should make it our objective to cover everybody, but I would not advocate the wholesale adoption of a British style system.

I know it's a financially intelligent decision, but the British system fails because all of their uncovered stuff is hellaciously expensive, their dental system is a case in point (new window).

/Law-term nazis--what's the proper way to say "case in point?"

Case in point (new window)

tripperday
So does anyone think they'll report it if he dies anyway?

He still will. Tarceva slows the progression of cancer by a few months, but that's all it does. It doesn't kill the cancer, and in under a year the cancer will have become resistant to it.

Barakku: I know it's a financially intelligent decision, but the British system fails because all of their uncovered stuff is hellaciously expensive, their dental system is a case in point (new window).

/Law-term nazis--what's the proper way to say "case in point?"

Costs within the US system for uncovered treatments are similar or more expensive than in the British system. And your case in point is rather week considering that dental is most often separate from health insurance in a privatized system. Only 50% of Americans actually have dental insurance.

The British system's biggest problem is the financial sink hole that was/is private finance initiatives. A socialized medical system cannot survive when funding is given to the private sector instead of the public sector where it is needed.

false HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL

po kid

gromitcu
Betcha he'd have saved a lot more than 4,000 quid if he hadn't smoked...oh, but then he wouldn't need the drugs anyway.

One of the justification for taxes on cigarettes is.... that people who smoke have higher healthcare costs.

This is an example of what you get from the glorious People's Republic of the NHS. They decide who lives and who dies, despite taking your money to pay for their gigantic bureaucracy.

Anyone with an ounce of sense goes private to get away from the unpleasant staff and filth in the NHS.

Axis of Weasel: YOURE DADDYS GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


Fark me.

Who let the retard out?

Pinhedd: Those drugs shouldn't cost £4,000 period. What's the price of a human life these days anyway?

Ask any insurance company.

Weaver95: Sounds like another 'win' for socialized medicine.


Unlike America's Health Plan, which simply let's you die.

raises £4,000 for cancer drugs to save her dad's life

He's gonna die anyway, hon. There is no cure for cancer.

Accept it, deal with it, and move on.

H2OFly: The Guennis truck may run them over tomorrow.


Guennis?

As in the Guennis book of world records?


/pure genuiarse

Weaver95: The drug Mr Hill needs is called Tarceva. It is available for free in Scotland but not in England, as the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence found it was not "an effective use of NHS resources".

Sounds like another 'win' for socialized medicine.

Aw, c'mon, pitching softballs now?

gromitcu
Betcha he'd have saved a lot more than 4,000 quid if he hadn't smoked...oh, but then he wouldn't need the drugs anyway.
farkeruk
One of the justification for taxes on cigarettes is.... that people who smoke have higher healthcare costs.

Lung cancer doesn't just happen to people who smoke, you know. My dad died a year ago from a kind of lung cancer that doctors said he would have gotten anyway, whether he smoked or not (which he didn't.)

/misses him

I want to know how a 6 year old managed to raise 4000 pounds, isn't that a little heavy for a little girl?

Weaver95: The drug Mr Hill needs is called Tarceva. It is available for free in Scotland but not in England, as the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence found it was not "an effective use of NHS resources".

Sounds like another 'win' for socialized medicine British frugality.

It's available for free in Scotland - sounds like a win for socialized medicine to me. Because one country doesn't approve it for their folks doesn't mean that the concept of socialized medicine has failed.

But, of course, if you're rooting for privatized medicine, you can pay nearly $2,000 for 30 pills here in the United States.
And, yes, that's right, while it's "extensively used" here, it's not extensively covered here.