Michigan Democrats One Step Closer To June 3 Re-Vote

Looking good for a Michigan "mulligan" primary:

Michigan Democrats agreed Friday to push a do-over primary in early June to give them a say in the close presidential race between Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama.

Amid talks with the two campaigns, the four Michigan Democrats said in a statement they were "focusing on the possibility of a state-run primary in early June which would not use any state funding." Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, one of the Democratic participants, said a likely date is June 3.

"This option would require the passage of legislation by the state legislature, and we look forward to working with the members of the legislature in the coming days to see if this option can be made a reality," the Democrats said.

The legislation, currently being written, has some serious hoops to jump through including approval by the Michigan Democratic Party, both the Clinton and Obama campaigns, the Democratic National Committee, state party leaders and Gov. Jennifer Granholm, but the momentum certainly seems to be on the side of its coming together.

And remember that whole Florida compromise where the delegates would be seated according to January's vote, only cut in half (the number of delegates, that is, not the delegates themselves...)? Looks like it's FL Sen. Bill Nelson's idea. (Nelson, you'll recall, is a Clinton supporter.)

With the Florida Democratic Party's proposed mail-in do-over of its Jan. 29 presidential primary drawing more heat than support, U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson began floating the idea Friday of seating half the state's 186 pledged delegates at the party's national convention.

Nelson said he spoke Friday with both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton on the Senate floor about the plight of Florida and Michigan, the two states stripped of delegates because their early primaries violated national rules.

"Both of them said, `You have to seat Florida and Michigan.' Now, of course, the devil is in the details,'" Nelson said.

The Nelson plan still gives Clinton the edge, based on her 17 percentage-point win in January. But instead of gaining 38 delegates, Clinton's victory margin in Florida would be reduced to 19.

I'm still not sold on it and it sounds like a damn hard sell to the campaigns, but I suppose it would be better than nothing.



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Re: Michigan Democrats One Step Closer To June 3 R (none / 0)

I wonder how Clinton could accept this. For two reasons:

1. This would basically take away any change she still has to catch up with Obama in pledged delegates. If she ever had a change.

2. The only reasons she is still in this thing is this lingering uncertainty about Florida and Michigan. If that stuff is solved without a revote, I don't see how she could ever win. She couldn't spin the Florida vote anymore.


by marcotom on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 07:33:51 PM EST

Re: Michigan Democrats One Step Closer To June 3 R (none / 0)

She's hoping a win in PA and FL turns a close race  in MI into a win there.  Might work.  And if she does that, she probably has the popular vote and her best argument for the nomination.  Her latest, best argument that is.


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by enozinho on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 08:03:17 PM EST
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Re: Michigan Democrats One Step Closer To June 3 R (none / 0)

I could see Obama taking this deal... I think hillary is insane to do so.  But hey, I guess we shall see.


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by yitbos96bb on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 10:31:35 PM EST
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Re: Michigan Democrats One Step Closer To June 3 R (none / 0)

Does anyone know how they will close the primary since there's no competing vote?


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by thezzyzx on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 07:35:30 PM EST

Re: Michigan Democrats One Step Closer To June 3 R (none / 0)

They will likely disqualify anyone who voted in the R primary in January.


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by Steve M on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 08:45:15 PM EST
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So I guess the Dems really really want to keep MI blue this fall.


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by PrinceCA on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 07:36:09 PM EST

My thoughts (none / 0)

Sen. Nelson botched things in Florida.  If he had consulted the Florida Democratic delgation (including Debbie Dubya--ugh) first, Florida could've had a revote.  And in Michigan, what if the Republicans in the legislature try to block this agreement?  And what about the Department of Justice?  Do you really think Mukasey & Co. are going to assist the Democrats?

Hope there's a revote, but still not that optimistic.


by mikelow1885 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 08:20:48 PM EST

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Question - would the primary in Michigan be a open primary?  Or would it be open only to Democrats?


by KristinaA on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 08:25:06 PM EST

Re: Michigan Democrats One Step Closer (none / 0)

Michigan doesn't register by party.


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by thezzyzx on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 08:29:12 PM EST
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She should jump on the Nelson deal (none / 0)

Hillary is not likely to see a better deal than having Florida's delegation cut in half.  There is no way that she can possibly get the pledged delegate lead cut even as low as double digits, so the extra 19 delegates won't help.

On the other hand, she would get to lock in the popular vote totals from the January election. Since  her only prayer at the nomination is convincing superdelegates to go with a popular vote winner, she will want to keep that margin.  Any revote would make that margin more narrow.

She should take the deal, and then continue with her present strategy: light the entire Democratic Party on fire to let everyone know that if she can't be president then we can suck on the McCain presidency she will see us all in hell.


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by alvernon on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 08:51:00 PM EST

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This bothers me then.  We've already seen Republicans vote in Texas & Mississippi to try to influence the outcome.  I understand that some of these Republicans really do want a change so they voted for the Democrat they want to vote for in November.  But a lot of the votes were spoiler votes and they're going to go nuts in Michigan.  Every Republican who voted in the initial primary(and who chose to vote in the GOP primary) will be able to vote again.


by KristinaA on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 08:53:41 PM EST


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