Darren McFadden's dash may create trade partners with Dolphins
When Arkansas running back Darren McFadden crossed the finish line Sunday, the media horde gasped when 4.29 flashed on the TV screen. It was later changed to 4.33, still one of the fastest times in Combine history.
McFadden has taken a lot of hits off the field recently because of his nightclub fracas and stories about his paternity situations. But on Sunday, McFadden's 40 times put the brakes on his tumbling draft hopes and probably caused disenchanted teams to fall back in love with him again. If that's the case, then the Dolphins may be able to trade out of the top pick, which they are desperately trying to do.
McFadden also jumped 10 feet, 8 inches in the broad jump and 33 inches in the vertical leap. Comparatively speaking, McFadden's overall workout was stronger than Adrian Peterson's a year ago, which included 40 time of 4.41, a 10-7 broad jump and a 38.5-inch vertical.
NFL Network draft analyst still prefers Illinois RB Rashard Mendenhall over McFadden.
East Carolina's Chris Johnson surpassed McFadden with a 4.24 40, the fastest time this year.
Maybe Cowboys owner Jerry Jones would like to trade up for McFadden. Don't count on it, Jones was whining this week about the unprecedented signing bonus that is due the top pick. Colts GM Bill Polian also eloquently stumped for doing away with those astronomical bonuses given to untried rookies.
What do you think Dolfans, trade out of the pick or grab one of the Long boys - Chris or Jake.
HF





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Grab Jake Long and you have 3/5ths of the starting Oline for the next 5 yrs. Long, Satele, Carey. Pick up some LB`s a Dlinemen, draft a safety or corner. Pick up a another Wideout and big time TE. That would make me satisfied on draft day.
Posted by: matt | February 25, 2008 at 02:11 AM
Trading down would be the most ideal situation. If the Dolphins cannot do that, then go with DE Chris Long.
Posted by: SAVE_US.Y2J | February 25, 2008 at 02:36 AM
Jake Long. Franchise LTs are worth every penny. They also excel from the start. Plug him in and barring injury, a premium position is locked-up for the next decade.
Posted by: tony | February 25, 2008 at 02:55 AM
Grab Jake Long and don't give him a ridiculous bonus. If he chooses to sit out the year, then so be it.
Posted by: azz | February 25, 2008 at 03:08 AM
If we trade down, I think we miss the shot at Jake Long, as I think St. Louis will grab him. Franchise LT's are not a dime a dozen. The mock drafts I've seen so far show a serious lack of knowledge of the Dolphins' situation. Many have the Fins taking Matt Ryan, which is the wrong pick for Miami. Others have Chris Long. You can't go wrong with him, but I think LT is a more pressing need, given that JT is still here to rush the passer.
Posted by: Stephen | February 25, 2008 at 03:28 AM
Trade down if possibble .If not , Jake Long . Somewhere in the near future the owners and players have got to restructure the monies being paid out in the draft . Give shorter contracts and less money for at least the first two years . Then pay the ones worthy .
Posted by: perspective | February 25, 2008 at 07:31 AM
make a deal with atlanta for d-hall swap first rounders and give them a fourth rounder, then select gholston from ohio state
Posted by: kimsly | February 25, 2008 at 07:43 AM
Swapping down with Atlanta AND giving them a 4th rounder or ANYTHING more is the dumbest idea you could come up with.
Tool.
Posted by: Matt | February 25, 2008 at 07:47 AM
I think Miami is going to pass on this guy and regret it later.
Posted by: Matt | February 25, 2008 at 07:50 AM
Trade down to Atlanta for their pick, Hall, and whatever else you can get. Then trade that pick to Dallas for both of their picks, Barber, and whatever else you can get.
That's turning the #1 into Hall, Barber, 2 first rounders, and the rest is gravy.
If Dallas won't trade, take whatever Long is left at #3.
Most likely though, there won't be any trades.
Posted by: sjs | February 25, 2008 at 08:03 AM
I don't understand why the NFL has not placed a cap on rookie signing bonuses or make various incentives part of the contract. Aside from the being cost prohibitive they are detrimental to the person receiving the bonus. It's hard to concentrate on your job when you've just received 30 plus million to spend on stuff. Gobs of money can do strange things to people.
Posted by: VaDolPhan | February 25, 2008 at 08:04 AM
How about trading J.Taylor & the #1 to Dallas for their 2 #1's, M.Barber, and a #1 next year? This extra #1 next year buys us time to pass on a QB this year and see what Beck can do. If he fails, go QB with one of our #1's next year.
Posted by: Eds | February 25, 2008 at 08:14 AM
With the Fins on the Clock, the only thing I want to hear coming out of South F-L-A is:
JAKE LONG (clap, clap, clapclapclap), JAKE LONG (clap, clap, clapclapclap), JAKE LONG (clap, clap, clapclapclap), JAKE LONG (clap, clap, clapclapclap), JAKE LONG (clap, clap, clapclapclap), JAKE LONG (clap, clap, clapclapclap)!
PS......If the Fins do grab a QB at some point in the draft (not at #1), I got two words for you:
JOE FLACCO (deleware)
Posted by: Wanny McStache | February 25, 2008 at 08:43 AM
No dout I think the phins should take the only sure thing inthis years draft and take Jake Long. To solidify the o-line remember it dosen't matter who is QB or running the ball if the o-line sucks we don't have chance.Even though the draft is deepwith o-linemen long is a cut above the rest and after seeing what Joe Thomas did for the browns selected to the pro bowl in his rookie season I think Long could have the same impact on the Dolphins.
Posted by: omar | February 25, 2008 at 09:13 AM
With the first pick, the Miami Dolphins select...Chris Long!
Posted by: Mel Kiper Jr Jr | February 25, 2008 at 09:21 AM
If we stay at #1, DE Long would be the wise choice. I'd love to see a trade down to acquire extra picks or players and picks, but if we have to draft there at 1, how about we start negotiating now and have the kid signed by the draft like smart teams do?
Posted by: wnc phin fan | February 25, 2008 at 09:43 AM
Get out of that spot, whatever it takes.
Posted by: JJF | February 25, 2008 at 09:43 AM
We need to draft another punt returner.
Posted by: Scott | February 25, 2008 at 09:47 AM
Typos and an incorrect initial forty time. (It was 4.27 initially, never 4.29). Good job buddy.
Posted by: Chris Nelson | February 25, 2008 at 09:56 AM
Trade this pick please, if not take Mcfadden or Jake Long forget Chris Long not with the number 1 pick anyway.
Posted by: cool guy | February 25, 2008 at 10:05 AM
If we can trade out of the first pick then I think we need to do so, that however is a big "if" ..but if we keep the pick Jake Long would make sense, but being from Va. and living near Charlottesville I believe that over the long haul Gholston from OSU will be a better fit in our 3-4 defense than Chris Long remember u guys heard that hear first hand...
Posted by: Aphinsfan | February 25, 2008 at 10:07 AM
*If* we can trade down a few spots and get some additional value picks I do it. Otherwise I grab one of the Long's. Both are high-enrgy high-cahracter guys who should excel for years. Which I take depends on what we do during free agency. If we sign a Flozell Adams (or some other OT Parcells and Ireland like) then we go with Chris. Otherwise I take Jake.
A good OT tends to have a much longer career than any other position. But adding a couple of good defensive players can really alter the quality of a defense quicker than you can fix an offense.
Posted by: RIP | February 25, 2008 at 10:31 AM
What ever they do this team needs an upgrade on the o-line and d-line. It doesn't matter which one gets the help first both of them are sorry. Over the years Parcells has preached you start in the trenches, and I think that is exactly what he will do.
Posted by: Gary | February 25, 2008 at 10:35 AM
People I like Jake long, but it has been confirmed this year that the draft is DEEP at OL; one of the deepest ever. I think the franchise DE or DT will be the pick if we take it.
Posted by: Ron In Charlotte | February 25, 2008 at 10:37 AM
As to the first pick (if we keep it) I ask one question: "Would you rather have Richmond Webb or Jason Taylor?"
Posted by: DolFanNBrevard | February 25, 2008 at 11:07 AM
As a UVa grad, I can attest to Chris Long's ability at DE. The guy is a monster, and he's probably quick enough to drop into coverage a la JT. The O-Line needs work, but our defense desperately needs to be able to disrupt opposing offenses.
I agree with the thought that if we can pick up another 1st round pick, Joe Flacco would be a solid choice for the second pick. The man has a gun for an arm and more upside potential than Ryan, IMHO.
Posted by: kwg | February 25, 2008 at 11:32 AM
In the marvelous world of "IF" the Fins would not have to worry about the #1 pick because we would have one the Superbowl. Unfortunately, in Reality we where the worst team in the NFL and are stuck w/ the #1 pick. Now there are a some good trading options out there but with any transaction 2 parties have to reach some form of mutual agreement. Option#1 Attempt a trade w/ Dallas for 2 1st rd, or one 1st rd, 2nd rd and Marion Barber. Option#2 Swap 1st rd picks w/ ATL and get D Hall. Option#3 Swap 1st rd w/ da JETS and get J Vilma
U see IF is a beautiful thing. But IF we can't trade the #1 pick than go with the best valued player that is worth the money. JAKE LONG
Posted by: Rob | February 25, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Why the hell don't the owners get together in the owner's meeting and cap rookie salaries? That move is way overdue.
Posted by: mjfin | February 25, 2008 at 12:20 PM
1) Rookie salaries ARE capped -- each team has a specified rookie pool that is predicated on how many draft picks they have.
2) Most people know that the august Mr. Parcells prefers his linebackers huge, as opposed to pork-face Jimma Johnson, who preferred his linebackers fast. Knowing Parcells' preference, why would anyone suggest a trade for Jonathan Vilma? Oh yeah, because if a guy went to UM, he's better than anyone else. Sorry I forgot.
Posted by: Scott Small | February 25, 2008 at 01:32 PM
"Would you rather have Richmond Webb or Jason Taylor?"
Not a fair question. We drafted Richmond Webb in the 1st round (8th overall). We drafted Jason Taylor in the 3rd round (73rd overall).
Posted by: Poker Mike | February 25, 2008 at 01:45 PM
I think the odds of Fins being able to trade out of the No. 1 spot is slim to none. Atlanta can gamble on Ryan being available at the No. 3 spot, if that is who they really want.
Unfortunately for the Fins, the ONE year they get the No. 1 pick...from what I have heard on ESPN's coverage of the combine, there really is no NO. 1 quality pick in this draft. A handful of very good top five or top ten picks...but no clear cut No 1. Which makes it even worse for the Fins trade prospects. Unless Jerry Jones really really wants McFadden, there seems to be no player that any team is just dying to get.....
We should all just accept that the Fins are STUCK with No. 1. If by some miracle they are able to trade out of it, we can then all be pleasantly surprised.
Doesn't Dallas have a LT who is good, and who is also going to be an unrestricted FA? If so, the Fins should sign him and that will eliminate the need to even consider Jake Long with the first pick.
With all that cap space, the Fins should try to fill at least one or two of their holes (LT? CB? TE?) with a FA.
Posted by: OrangeLotTailgater | February 25, 2008 at 01:52 PM
IF we do pick Jake Long, which I believe is the best investment the Fins can make...then we should consider drafting another QB with the second pick.
I am not 100% sure Beck is our long-term solution at this, the most important position on the team.
Flacco looked impressive yesterday, tall, strong, and pretty quick for a guy that tall...( ps..he's the only QB who can acutally see over Jake Long's head on those short pass routes)
Posted by: NHfinsfan | February 25, 2008 at 02:01 PM
It's great to be in this position isn't it Dolphins fans! Obviously there are people on this post that think they know everything and are far too critical of other opinions but we really can't lose here with this draft and that's a good feeling. Personally, would enjoy the phins trading down a few spots picking up a high-caliber player that fills a lesser need (C. Johnson-WR, D. Hall-CB) and still being able to fill a major spot with the 1st round pick. Torn between the head (grab J. Long - he's a beast that will anchor us for years) or the heart (grab Howie's boy so he can tear off Brady's head). Either way - we win.
Posted by: Jim | February 25, 2008 at 02:10 PM
I'm seeing some pretty crazy stuff on this board.
You don't draft a guy at 1st in the 1st unless you already have a contract. The Raiders were STUPID with their choice last year. If you can't trade away, your #1 is already packed and has his flight intinerary.
So, assuming all of the talent being discussed will sign on, who is ready to be the anchor of your new re-building project?
Do you start on the O-Line with Jake Long or the USC LT? Do you start on the D-Line at End with C.Long or go DT with Dorsey?
How does that pair up with who we can obtain in FA? I saw a comment where a guy talked about pairing J.Long with Faneca. That's interesting stuff. I don't know if they can both play the left side. But that is the way they'll plan this. Do they have a position coach that thinks he can do something with the rookie at hand? Does the FA guy fit into the system?
Posted by: CB | February 25, 2008 at 02:58 PM
Darren McFadden looks pretty sweet. It is hard to land a guy like that. Fins will be a two headed monster. O Line in 2nd round or Joe Flaco. McFadden not a good deal for fantasy football.
Posted by: Gregg | February 25, 2008 at 03:00 PM
Forgot to say...why do people keep saying that the O-Line is 3 or 4/5th's completed?
I'm not seeing that at all. I don't know if they like anyone on the current line.
Remember. Ireland pointed out immediately that the Dolphins need to get bigger. That's an indication that the Jimmy Johnson style is out.
That should suggest that Dorsey or Jake Long will be the 1st choice. But we got some free agency to deal with before the draft comes along.
And the Fins can take anything...because they need everything. So, I see them taking talent over need. I still see them taking Line over skill though. We're lucky that this draft has what we need...at least on O-Line.
If we build the O-Line with this year's crop, you'll never be sorry. D-Line seems to be trickier.
Posted by: CB | February 25, 2008 at 03:07 PM
I only see McFadden being the pick if we have already done well on O-Line in FA...which is a possibility.
The older O-Linemen may accept less in FA, knowing there are many teams who will gut and await the younger cheaper guys.
However, the cap is bigger this year. So, the best FA linemen will probably be retained by most teams.
Posted by: CB | February 25, 2008 at 03:11 PM
You want a sure thing for $30 million plus. McFadden looks to be that. Hopefully they can trade down.
Posted by: Gregg | February 25, 2008 at 03:19 PM
I just think it's absolutely nuts to talk about anything when the team has NO quarterback. John Beck...are you kidding?
There is only one smart choice and that's Matt Ryan, get help in free agency and next years draft for the rest. It ain't gonna happen in one draft, but it sure starts with QB.
Posted by: Tom Hartman | February 25, 2008 at 03:47 PM
I love Chris Long, but i get this sneaking suspician that Vernon Gholston is a guy that would be the consensus #1 that this draft lacks if he played out his senior year. 14 sacks for 110 isn't bad, but when you add that with his combine numbers... holy cow!
Posted by: Flash | February 25, 2008 at 04:35 PM
Guys, although Jake Long is clearly the stud of the O-linemen, many "experts" believe he's better suited at RT than LT. ...
Take Chris Long to be JT's eventual successor and grab Joe Flacco somehow.
HF
Posted by: Harvey Fialkov | February 25, 2008 at 04:57 PM
Right, I have neglected to read the other posts on this subject, so at risk of repetition: draft Ryan #1. That is, only if we are stuck with making the decision. He is a franchise quality QB hopeful. To me, that is the only risk worth taking at #1. Then, let's see what Atlanta will do post fact. Trade for him, or not. Either way, he could benefit the Fins.
If some team negotiates for that top pick...great! Let's go Long- either one.
Posted by: Diane | February 25, 2008 at 04:59 PM
Ryan is not a clear-cut top talent, he's really no more a safe bet than Beck. We have to address the line, either side, and get a QB in FA or later rounds.
Posted by: Wil | February 25, 2008 at 06:33 PM
Too many QB's are total busts. Very few top QB's taken succeed at anything. Heath Schuler, Ryan Leaf, and the list goes on. McFadden is a once in a lifetime talent. Go with best player on board. Miami has so many holes there can't be a consensus of where to start. Go with the stud. Fill in the rest of the team in round 2 and on plus free agency.
Posted by: Gregg | February 25, 2008 at 06:51 PM
i think they should get chris long or Mcfadden with the first pick and for the QB deal go with Colt Brennan or Joe Flacco in the 2nd Round
Posted by: blake | February 25, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Joe Flacco is not the answer he has terrible footwork and just because he is big and throws the ball well does not mean he is ready for the NFL he played Division I-AA football the speed is no where close to the NFL's let alone division one He would be a bad pick in the second round. I think you address the quarterback in FA as far as the first pick you have to TRY to trade down main word try. They should set up a smoke screen and make it look like there going to take Ryan just like they did to Braylon Edwards when they got Ronnie Brown so the Falcons want to trade Deanglo Hall and there First and a third rounder.
Posted by: zmaniowa | February 26, 2008 at 12:02 AM
why dont we trade brown for a first rounder or a couple of 2nd rounders? he is a proven back (until his injury) and im sure there are teams lookin for a good running back and willing to give up a pick for his kind of talent. I would take my chances on McFadden who dominated the SEC over a RB with a blown knee. and since the draft is knee deep with OL why take one in the first round?
As far as Flacco, never heard of the guy and after finding out he played at a subdivision school, i know why. He would be the same mistake that John Beck was. BYU??? DELAWARE??? What kind of competition do they see?? How great can this guy be coming out of a subdivision school??? I'd take my chances with Kyle Wright before i do with Flacco.
A trade for Vilma would be great. He's a proven quality MLB n Im almost sure he played for Parcells before, correct? I dont think id give up draft picks for him tho.
Posted by: Boodambudoodoo | February 26, 2008 at 02:42 AM
All i can say is we need some linemen. Offensive before defensive, but definitely both. But if we are stuck with the first pick and cant trade it, i dont see how you can pass up McFadden! His type of player doesnt come along very often and we could use some major playmaking skills on offense. Free agency is a good start for linemen, then pick up the rest in the draft. But dont make the mistake of passing up a McFadden! Made too many mistakes already not getting the players we should have taken in FA and draft in recent years.
Posted by: Josh | February 26, 2008 at 05:31 AM
TRADE DOWN!!!! That's all that has to be said!
Posted by: COPDNL | February 26, 2008 at 07:57 AM
OK - in a perfect world it would look like this
1) we trade with St. Louis for their 1st and 2nd round pick so they can get Chris Long.
2) We trade with Atlanta for their 1st and 2nd round pick so they can get Ryan.
3) We trade with Oakland for their 1st and 2nd round pick so they can get McFadden.
4) We trade with Kansas for their 1st and 2nd round pick so they can get Jake Long.
5) We take Gholston so the Jets or Patriots don't get him and have No.1, No 2, No.3, No.4 and No. 6 in the second round and no team hast to give up too much to get their player.
Posted by: Germany speaking | February 26, 2008 at 08:30 AM
germany speaking
put down the crack
i say we offer
Ryan, Long, Long, and McFadden contracts
all BELOW what last years number 1 made but avg to wat the number 2 and 3 made.
basically saying, none of you are that special and you know it.
now who wants to suck up their pride (and agents too) sign a good deal and be the #1 pick.
you make your decision from among those who accept the offer.
to play this any other way would be ridiculous.
drafting a player without first having him signed is just asking for trouble and a holdout (which we cannot afforf)
Posted by: rogperu | February 26, 2008 at 08:52 AM
once AGIN, darren mcfadden has PROVED he is with out a doubt the BEST PLAYER in this years draft and one of the best rb prospects to come out since dickerson and barry sanders.
the guy can DO IT ALL!! legit 4.3 [or 4.27] speed and the moves to go with it and a nose for the endzone.
POINTS WIN GAMES, END OF STORY!! and miami has NO ONE that gets in the endzone with any regularity.
everyone gets hung up on positions, and all this "he failed, that failed, usually a bust" crap. and it is just that... CRAP!!
all that kind of thinking does is cheat you out of TALENT. which the past 3 miami regimes have done over and over. heck, ya might as well not draft at all with that mentality.
if your going to spend 35-40 million, it better be a player taht can come right in and produce BIG TIME!
mcfadden is a guy that teams WILL HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR and not many players bring that to there game. when they come along, YOU TAKE IT!!
any position, at any point in the draft can be a bust. but no one blames a team for picking a guy with all world skills and then doesnt make it in the nfl.
if rb's like mcfadden could be had in all the later rounds like some seem to believe these days, ALL teams would have pro bowl caliber rb's.
and they dont. so it aint that easy!!
miami better not pass on this for sure talent unless they can get a REAL blockbuster deal.
and even then they should think about it!
remember, parcells drafted KEYSHAWN JOHNSON with the 1st pick over all with the jets and he isnt NEAR the skill set that mcfadden is.
so dont be shocked if you here mcfadden called from the podium come draft day.
Posted by: nomuzlimprez | February 26, 2008 at 09:08 AM
The first round is over rated. I think Ronnie Brown will be fine and Ginn Jr will be fine. Our biggest need is DT, OT, and secondary. We need WR's and TE's too. Take Dorsey and try to draft 3-4 guys that will contribute long term. Along with R. Brown, Settle, Ginn, J. ALlen, Crowder, and Carey, we can start building a good young team. The most important thing is to get 3-4 elite starters this year.
Posted by: Sherif | February 26, 2008 at 11:04 AM
I have a question.....To those of you posting who are saying the Fins have to draft Chris Long, that you have been watching him before his SR. season started, and this is the guy the Fins have to take?!?! I say why on earth would anyone be looking at Chris Long before his Senior Season? This guy is a ONE YEAR WONDER!!! Chris Long had 1 Sack his Soph. Year, and 4 Sacks his Junior Year???? And this is the you had your eyes on??? Give me a break! Long broke out his SR. year for 14 sacks, but is clearly a One Year Wonder.....so how on earth can you guys even justify him as a #1 Pick?????
Posted by: Wanny McStache | February 26, 2008 at 11:24 AM
Don't forget people, that the Fins signing FA OT Flozelle "The Hotel" Adams from Dallas is inevitable! Then we draft Jake Long to play Right Tackle and the O-Line will be set for years!!
Posted by: Wanny McStache | February 26, 2008 at 11:25 AM
I say take McFadden. Reason is this. We are still going to struggle this year and have a top ten pick next year. So why not take a number one calliber guy when we have the chance and then see what we get as far as OL in free agency and in the later rounds of THIS draft. Having a BIGTIME GAME BREAKER is something that doesn't come along to often. With McFadden, Ginn, Brown, L. Booker-- we suddenly have some speed. Id put Booker in the slot. Move Mcfadden all over like Saints did with BUSH and then we have BROWN as our DEUCE MACALLISTER --- pick up FLOZEL and FENECA and find a tight end -- SHOCKY? or Draft one and suddenly we have some offensive options...and if RICKY adds anything to the equation, then great. Next year we add more defense and then in two years we have a shot at being decent.
Just a thought. We need to be thinking about the next few years as our plan.
Posted by: Moneyjacket | February 26, 2008 at 11:55 AM
To Boodambudoodoo: Dude, you say we could trade Ronnie Brown for a #1 or a #2, and then you say we shouldn't keep him because of his knee ... do you think the other teams don't know about that knee, or do you think they'll give up a premium pick for some guy who is "too injured" to be our feature back?
And to answer your question, no, Vilma did NOT play for Parcells, and he is NOT a Parcells-type LB. Jimma Johnson would have taken Vilma in a second, but not Parcells.
Posted by: Scott Small | February 26, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Parcells will never bring in an attitude like Shockey's ... though the myriad UM fans on this blog can dream about it.
Posted by: Scott Small | February 26, 2008 at 12:19 PM
You gotta draft the big tackle from Michigan. The fins were great when they had two studs up front. Get the oline done and get Flacco in the 2nd if we dont like Beck. Everything starts up front....
Posted by: Rich W | February 26, 2008 at 02:08 PM
I just don't want to hear three hours of info on one guy (like Quinn last year) only to hear that in the end they went with some other guy (like Ginn last year). I still recall thinking that WQAM was playing a joke when that announcement was made live. I thought "The guy mispronouced Quinn", and "They must have sliced some other announcement, it isn't funny!".
They should trade down, since we have so many holes to fill, and a whole set of second and third rounders will do more for us than one suffering "savior" in the first round. But if not, they should be on the phone with Long, long before their pick comes up.
Posted by: Suffering Miami Fan | February 26, 2008 at 02:26 PM
why not take McFadden and then trade Ronnie Brown for another first rounder? We could use the second first rounder on an lineman (o or d0. This scenario would give miami the two first rounders is so desperately needs, while still allowing us to draft the best player on the board. Passing on D-Mac would be baddd!
Posted by: daleja424 | February 26, 2008 at 04:55 PM
Scott...why the condescending attitude? Was only suggesting an idea. A lot of clubs have taken chances on players before....I think a young running back like Brown still has a lot of value to other teams. Not so much to us if we get Mcfadden.
And as far as Vilma goes, I dont know what Parcells likes. He's not on my top 5 on my mobile so I havent talked to him in a while, but as far as Im concerned, there are good athletes and there are not so good athletes. Jonathan Vilma is a good athlete that will produce positive things for a franchise and he's young. It would be a nice get...All im saying. Maybe it is cuz im a Canes fan and id like to see some canes play in Miami again. Or maybe im an extreme genius who realizes that UM has put out over the last 13 years all the great names that are on the back of the jerseys you cream yourself in at night.
If shockey and vilma were crap football players id maybe agree with you but... u kinda sound like u dont know what you're talking about
Posted by: Boodambudoodoo | February 26, 2008 at 04:58 PM
This is why we got Jeff Ireland. I am warming up to McFadden and the LT, DT, and DE candidates.
I would like to see Matt Ryan's stock go up too. I like the idea of negotiating contracts with the top five or six guys, so that we know that the guy we draft will sign and come to camp ASAP.
Again, thank you McFadden for running a 4.33!
Posted by: CyrusTheVirus | February 26, 2008 at 05:39 PM
I like the trade with Atlanta for CB -Hall and swapping 1 for 3. They want
Matt Ryan so bad they can taste it. That way we get either one of the Longs. Not Bad. It is not tofar fetched to build more picks
out of the (3) spot, because McFadden will still be there. I Like It!
Posted by: cw | February 26, 2008 at 09:14 PM
If the above scenario does
not work, call Atlanta,s
bluff and draft a franchise
QB in Ryan and turnaround and deal him back to Atlanta before they pick for Hall, their 3 and we have to, give them a 5 or 6. If it doesn't work, we still have Matt Ryan
Posted by: CW | February 26, 2008 at 09:28 PM
It is good to see that some of you are waking up and realizing that C.Long is not a #1 pick. I would prefer V.Gholston later in the first. However, D.McFadden has got my attention. I would like to see J.Long in a Miami uniform, but McFadden could easily be the guy. It is going to be hard to pass on this guy. He is a home run hitter. R.Brown could fetch us a 2nd or 3rd round pick.
Posted by: T.WAY | February 27, 2008 at 12:23 AM
NFL.com reported on tv that the Cowboys are rumored to want to trade up to get McFadden and give us the rights to Marion Barber, and three draft picks. The Cowboys hold the 22nd and the 26th pick. That would be great!!!
Posted by: Go Phins | February 27, 2008 at 09:02 AM
I think D-MAC is a franchise running back and worthy of the #1 pick. BUT, It is proven that if you have a good o-line, all you need is a solid, not spectacular RB to run the ball in the NFL. We dont need D-Mac. Think about having Chris Long OLB/DE, Deangelo Hall, via trade with Atlanta, Quinton Groves OLB/DE from Auburn, Joey Porter and Channing Crowder in the middle, and letting Jason put his hand down where he is best. Opposing QBs love it when he stands up. He is way more dangerous as a DE. How about that front 7.
QBs would be freaking out. Peace Out.
Posted by: CW | February 27, 2008 at 08:15 PM
Yes Im Bored. Check this out! Front seven base D
playing 4/3 or 3/4
Chris Long, Holliday, Wright, Taylor - D Line
Porter,Crowder,Quinton
Groves - LBs
3rd down pass D
Roth, Holliday, Taylor-DL
Long, Porter, Crowder, Groves. Can you say Killer D. If Rod Wright can put on 15-20 lbs. He could be a force. Watch out for him this year.
Posted by: CW | February 27, 2008 at 08:29 PM
Gregg , BP dpes like big line man but Dorsey is not big enough neither is ellis NG habe to bigger in 3/4 to take up 2 to 3 blockers by themselves sop Dorsey is NOT a BP lineman
Posted by: zdolphin | February 28, 2008 at 06:23 AM
We need a solid o-line to give Beck some time to throw, so we'll know if he is our future. Dolphins take.... Jake Long.
Posted by: xman72 | February 28, 2008 at 10:51 AM
I think that our first 3 picks should be a punt returner, a project QB, and then a 3rd down RB. Oh wait, we already did that last year...
Posted by: daphins23 | February 28, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Boodambudoodoo: STBYO (Sorry to bum you out.) I agree that both Vilma and Shockey are good players. But Vilma is a fast, 4-3-style LB, the kind Jimma Johnson likes. Parcells likes big 3-4-style linebackers. Note that Vilma was traded to a 4-3 team today. As for Shockey, he may be good, but Parcells seldom goes for big ego players. And I'll bet you a dollar Parcells won't go after Shockey.
Posted by: Scott Small | February 29, 2008 at 01:45 PM
Miami simply has too many needs to fill to sit at number one. Not negotiating a trade for multiple picks in this very deep draft would be disastrous for Parcells. That being said, if no trade can be arranged, Matt Ryan is the only logical choice at number one. It takes three to four years to develop a young quarterback, longer than any other position. If not now, when? STOP! PLEASE DON'T SAY JOHN BECK!
Posted by: CDE | March 02, 2008 at 03:46 PM