RIM CEO: Actually, We Didn't Rip Off The iPhone

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When we saw the first photos of Research in Motion's new "Bold," we assumed co-CEO Jim Balsillie had just plunked Apple's iPhone down in front of his engineers and said "Give me something like this." Not so, says RIM's other co-CEO Mike Lazaridis. In this interview with Natasha Lomas, Mike says RIM's been working on the Bold since time immemorial:

This is three years in the making. So I'm sorry but this wasn't a response to another device. Either that or we have a time machine somewhere, or some kind of magic crystal ball or something. This was actually designed three years ago and the actual physical design of this product--I have the original models from 2006.

Mike also argues that QWERTY keyboards are only going to get more popular, now that mobile email, Facebook, etc., are going mainstream:

The most exciting mobile trend is...full Qwerty keyboards. I'm sorry, it really is. I'm not making this up. People are running out of their two-year contracts and they're coming into the stores and they want to be able to do Facebook and they want to be able to do instant messaging and they want to be able to do e-mail and they ask for those features thinking that they're going to get another flip phone and they're walking out with a (BlackBerry) Curve or a Pearl because they're the best devices for doing those kinds of activities. And so what is the defining factor? The keyboard.

Which doesn't explain why RIM is about to release its next iPhone-killer, the keyboard-less Thunder, (Dan Frommer has photoshopped a hypothetical version below).

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steve (URL) said:
I have owned over 100 of these mobile devices, since the first Sharp Wizard came out; including the first hp 200lx's, blackberries, treos, windows CE/mobile devices; Psions, etc.; for now I use an iPhone. BUT, i miss the keyboard.

Jim is right, the coolest thing in mobile is the full QWERTY keyboard. The RIMM guys really know what they are doing, and have been doing it a lot longer than Apple; and a lot better than PALM. I think Silicon Alley should pay him the due respect and perhaps, listen to what he's saying! (with all due respect to AI, too).

What iPhone has going that rocks is the OPERATING SYSTEM. But it still needs a keyboard. A real one.

Pete said:
"I have the original models from 2006"

The original model was copied from the iPhone shown in 2006 Macworld.

steve (URL) said:
What RIMM did is build the first fully functional mobile email device. There is still nothing that touches it for heavy email users.

What Apple did with the iPhone is bring a desktop-class operating system, and a sensational
web browsing capability to the mobile device - throwing in iPod capability (and a few other nifty apps) to boot.

Both firms deserve credit for being the real deal:
major best-in-class mobile computing innovators! Sure, there's bound to be some overlap as major innovations, like iPhone's stupenously great OS/UI. But both firms are both legit innovators. Off the charts!

alex said:
Why is RIM bringing out an "iphone killer"? Simple - to compete with the iphone! The upcoming Bold does not come close to catering to the same audience as the iphone. RIM didn't copy the iphone! Also, in order to maintain carrier parity, they HAD to give SOMETHING to old fashioned Verizon. "Can you hear me now" and the tired handsets that go along with it simply weren't enough to compete with AT&T's iphone AND Bold exclusives. One of these days Verizon's cool factor may catch up, but until then . . . . . .

Cricket said:
While there is no doubt Apple has turned a very unique corner since the late 1990s, it is essentially possible that we will see these companies be going at it throughout the next fifty years. They both have great products so I see no reason for any holy-grail device to be fatal to the other. Competition is what drives long term growth (same reason Yahoo isn't going away; struggling now but will have a reemergence) and as long as this dog fight is going on both will participate in this arms race. The benefactors of this relationship; us.

Cricket said:
While there is no doubt Apple has turned a very unique corner since the late 1990s, it is essentially possible that we will see these companies will going at it throughout the next fifty years. They both have great products so I see no reason for any holy-grail device to be fatal to the other. Competition is what drives long term growth (same reason Yahoo isn't going away; struggling now but will have a reemergence) and as long as this dog fight is going on both will participate in this arms race. The benefactors of this relationship; us.

Mike B said:
RIMM is obviously in full defense mode. Leaking phones almost on a daily basis to try to prove their viability in the midst of the iPhone 2.0 launch.

I think they've created a huge error by pushing out details of TWO unreleased phone models. Sales on current models are going to be impacted and even sales of the new Bold may be impacted as people wait to see what Thunder is all about.

Unless Thunder is signifcantly cheaper than the iPhone, I don't see it selling in huge numbers since consumers who want a touch screen will most likely go to the iPhone, and RIMM advocates will want the models with keyboards.

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Confused said:
Research in motion.

R.I.M. does not equal RIMM

if the most exciting mobile trend is...full Qwerty keyboards, then why are they putting out a device without one?

Spice said:
I like the back of the bold; it’s leather.

...but I still prefer the iphone and I find it easier to type on my iphone than my Blackbery.

Touchscreen is better, at least on the iphone it is. - It's not your typical touchscreen.

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evw said:
"Jim is right, the coolest thing in mobile is the full QWERTY keyboard. The RIMM guys really know what they are doing,"

Steve, the iPhone *has* a full QWERTY keyboard.

If you look at the iPhone keyboard, you will notice the arrangement of the keys across the top. It spells "QWERTY." That's what "QWERTY" refers to -- the arrangement of the keys. "The RIMM guys" are redefining words to support Blackberry's marketing hype.

"What iPhone has going that rocks is the OPERATING SYSTEM. But it still needs a keyboard. A real one."

If you want a real keyboard, buy a real keyboard -- and a computer to go with it.

You can't put a real keyboard in your pocket. It's physically impossible. The Blackberry keyboard is not a real keyboard any more than the Timex Sinclair keyboard. Real typists don't use their thumbs, they use their fingers. Thumbs are only for spacebars.

By the way, not everyone likes QWERTY keyboards. There's an alternative keyboard called "Dvorak," which some people prefer. Not to mention foreign-language keyboards.

The iPhone keyboard is software-configurable and -replaceable. Apple could replace it with a Dvorak keyboard or a Cyrillic keyboard (for example) just by downloading new software via iTunes. Try replacing the Blackberry's chicklet keyboard that way.

Then there's the iPhone's autocorrection, which eliminates over 95% of all typing errors and the need to use wierd "text0r" argot. (If the Blackberry keyboard is so great, why do so many messages still look like, "i8 at ofic. can u met me at 4um theutr?")

The coolest thing in mobile is not hardware, it's *software*. If RIMM doesn't understand that, they're in trouble.







Luc said:
Blackberries have autocorrection too.

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