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October 3rd, 2008

Slimming down the bloated iTunes 8 installer

Posted by Ed Bott @ 6:49 am

Categories: Windows Vista, Apple, Windows XP

Tags: Apple iPod, Apple QuickTime, Apple Inc., Apple iTunes, Bonjour, MobileMe, Apple Software Update, Digital Music, Digital Media, Personal Technology

[Updated 3-Oct 11:30AM PDT: After I did the original research for this piece, Apple released iTunes 8.0.1. I have been unable to find a set of release notes or a changelog for this versions, but I have updated filenames referenced in this post to reflect the new version number.]

How do you supersize a simple music manager? Ask Apple. The Windows version of iTunes 8, released earlier this month and quickly patched after it caused an outbreak of blue-screen crashes, is a 64MB download. (For the sake of comparison, Windows Media Player 11 for Windows XP is just over 24 MB.) The full iTunes 8 installation takes up nearly 200MB of space on a Windows PC.

Slimming down the bloated iTunes 8 installerAs it turns out, the iTunes installer has been bulking up for the past year or two. Don’t be fooled by the filename: iTunes801Setup.exe, the most recent version as of this writing, includes much more than the iTunes client. Without any disclosure and without your consent, the iTunes 8 setup program installs kernel-mode drivers, multiple system services, and at least one add-in. It takes a supersize helping of chutzpah to create an ad that criticizes Windows for its “bloat” and then deliver an upgrade with as much unnecessary junk as this one.

The last time I wrote about this, several commenters defended Apple by insisting that every component in that full install was necessary, and that trying to carve away any of those bits will degrade Apple’s awesome end-to-end experience. I’ve looked at the iTunes installer on multiple Windows machines and am convinced that those Apple defenders are wrong. If you’re like most people, you don’t need any of that additional junk. In this post, I’ll explain how you can figure out which parts of the package you need, and then show you how to wrestle control of iTunes back.

For starters, let’s look at everything that’s in the iTunes 8 Windows installer, with an explanation of what it’s used for and how you can decide whether you need it:

  • QuickTime is Apple’s multimedia framework, a collection of codecs, plugins, DLLs, and several players designed to help you play back digital media files in most popular formats. The big selling point is support for the QuickTime movie (.mov) format, via the standalone player or an embedded ActiveX control.
  • iTunes is Apple’s all-purpose media player/device sync application. If you own an iPod, this is the only officially supported way to interact with it, although third-party alternatives are available. iTunes also provides access to the iTunes store, and if you own an iPhone you must use iTunes to activate it, update its firmware, and sync its content with your PC.
  • Bonjour is Apple’s implementation of the open-source Zeroconf, a multicast DNS responder used to discover services on a local area network. It’s installed by default with the iTunes download and also installed silently with some Adobe products, a decision that “freaked out” some Adobe customers. Adding unauthorized peer-to-peer services on a corporate network is a distinct no-no, as a number of customers have told Apple on their support forums. (The response? Crickets.) If you want to share iTunes libraries over a network or use Apple TV, you need Bonjour. If you have a printer attached to an AirPort device, you should use Bonjour. However, if you simply want to play media files and sync your iTunes library with your iPod, you don’t need Bonjour. (And Photoshop users can safely remove it as well unless they have a Version Cue server on their network.)
  • Apple Mobile Device Support is the synchronization framework for the iPhone and iPod Touch family of “mobile devices.” This package is not necessary if you have any other member of the iPod family, including the Classic, Mini, Nano, or Shuffle, which sync just fine using just the basic iTunes app.
  • MobileMe is the support software that enables synchronization of email and contacts and calendar items with Apple’s MobileMe service (previously .Mac). It is included with the iTunes installer to update existing installations, but is no longer installed as part of a default new setup.
  • Apple Software Update is a utility that checks for new versions of Apple software installed on your PC. It also pushes new Windows-compatible Apple software programs. Understanding how this utility works is crucial; it can and will install software you have explicitly rejected if you don’t monitor its actions carefully.

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Ed Bott is an award-winning technology writer with more than two decades' experience writing for mainstream media outlets and online publications. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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RE: Slimming down the bloated iTunes 8 installer
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2. Run the installers with the proper command-line switches.

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Performance? clindhartsen   | 10/03/08
Typical Apple Junk Mectron   | 10/03/08
Typical MS fanboy theo_durcan   | 10/03/08
Typical Apple fanboy Narg   | 10/06/08
Great Opinion? marshallda   | 10/05/08
You too? rodonn   | 10/07/08
I have the same issues with iTunes on my USTechHead   | 10/06/08
The Zune Player is nice tikigawd   | 10/06/08
Black iTunes tikigawd   | 10/06/08
Re: Black iTunes rodonn   | 10/07/08
Oh absolutely tikigawd   | 10/07/08
Black iTunes rodonn   | 10/07/08
The problem is not Windows tikigawd   | 10/07/08
Outlook Abuse larry@...   | 10/03/08
Works on my wife's iPhone Ed Bott  ZDNet | 10/03/08
Two Apple Outlook Add-ins meadorbd@...   | 10/03/08
Do you know which installers they come from? Ed Bott  ZDNet | 10/03/08
this is idiotic... doctorSpoc   | 10/03/08
I disagree... worldlee78   | 10/03/08
I sympathize frgough   | 10/03/08
You can't take this guy seriously surfasb   | 10/03/08
my point is... the average person doesn't give a rat's buttocks.. doctorSpoc   | 10/03/08
Idiotic? Try using iTunes with a NAS Norcross   | 10/03/08
my iTunes library is almost 2TB and runs fine... doctorSpoc   | 10/03/08
You missed the part about the NAS Ed Bott  ZDNet | 10/03/08
unless you are running Gigabit ethernet.. doctorSpoc   | 10/03/08
Nonsense Ed Bott  ZDNet | 10/03/08
now that i think about it... you are right... doctorSpoc   | 10/03/08
@doctorSpoc: Classic tikigawd   | 10/06/08
No problem here gtdavies33@...   | 10/03/08
What's worse though... Narg   | 10/08/08
LOL! The ABMers have been whining about the Vista "bloat" ye   | 10/03/08
i've never complain about Vista... doctorSpoc   | 10/03/08
Good question. ye   | 10/03/08
The real idiot Mectron   | 10/03/08
LOL!!! when did quicktime become a codec? doctorSpoc   | 10/03/08
It would be safe to assume... tikigawd   | 10/06/08
VLC kuilboer   | 10/08/08
Your subject said it all ... "this is idiotic" TG2   | 10/06/08
Details, please Ed Bott  ZDNet | 10/06/08
RE: Slimming down the bloated iTunes 8 installer Vocalpoint   | 10/03/08
More iTunes weight loss tricks jrf2027@...   | 10/03/08
Typical Bot-ism frgough   | 10/03/08
required? Norcross   | 10/03/08
+1 for that Ed Bott  ZDNet | 10/03/08
Legitimate Criticisms Harry Bardal   | 10/05/08
Blah blah blah ... Ed Bott  ZDNet | 10/05/08
Wrong. John E Wahd   | 10/05/08
You hit the spot! <NT> silent.griffin   | 10/04/08
So Macs are better tikigawd   | 10/06/08
What annoys me marks055@...   | 10/03/08
I have to agree there Suicida|   | 10/07/08
Bad Apple while the PC Rocks! tacylove@...   | 10/03/08
You Had Me At Hey DannyO_0x98   | 10/03/08
there is a reason Mectron   | 10/04/08
Yeah... CowLauncher   | 10/05/08
Use msiexec to remove it. Suicida|   | 10/07/08
2 Way to do a thing nelsoon   | 10/27/08
RE: Slimming down the bloated iTunes 8 installer clindhartsen   | 10/03/08
It is sabotage! Patanjali   | 10/04/08
It's Stockholm... rodonn   | 10/07/08
RE: Slimming down the bloated iTunes 8 installer dfrandin   | 10/04/08
RE: Slimming down the bloated iTunes 8 installer marshallda   | 10/05/08
oops wissn   | 10/05/08
Simple Solution - DON'T INSTALL IT! JScarfe   | 10/06/08
Calling the Kettle Black... Narg   | 10/06/08
I CALL FOUL! So, you want 10 installs instead of 1? scoobyJ   | 10/07/08
LOL Good Software? logic_earth   | 10/07/08
You know, there's this new fangled things called Software Install WIZARDS. Wolfie2K3   | 10/07/08
RE: Slimming down the bloated iTunes 8 installer scoobyJ   | 10/08/08
RE: Slimming down the bloated iTunes 8 installer 0Hboy   | 10/08/08
Cleanest itunes installation of them all... Spiritusindomit@...   | 10/09/08
Quicktime Alternative will.doak@...   | 10/09/08
RE: Slimming down the bloated iTunes 8 installer Kidmenot   | 10/12/08
RE: Slimming down the bloated iTunes 8 installer usernamealreadyinuse   | 11/08/08

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