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March 10th, 2008

Early photos of AMD Shanghai CPU

Posted by George Ou @ 5:18 am

Categories: Servers, Hardware, Energy efficiency - green, Processors, AMD, Intel

Tags: Shanghai, Photograph, Advanced Micro Devices Inc., CPU, Processors, Semiconductors, Hardware, Components, George Ou

Credit: Fuad Abazovic, Fudzilla

Photos of CPU-Z highlighting AMD’s 45nm Shanghai quad-core processor appeared on Fudzilla last week.  It confirms that AMD’s latest processor will have a total of 2 megabytes L2 cache (512 KB per core), and 6 megabytes of shared L3 cache.

By contrast, AMD’s 65-nm Barcelona-class processors (Phenom and Opteron quad-core) only have 2 megabytes of shared L3 cache.  The L2 and L3 caches will mostly be exclusive which means they will for the most part not share any content effectively making the cache size larger.

Shanghai’s core voltage of 1.15 V is equivalent to the low-voltage edition of AMD’s current 65nm quad-core processor Barcelona though it’s unclear if this particular Shanghai was operating at normal or low voltage.  According to Fuad Abazovic of Fudzilla, Shanghai is expected to operate above the 3 GHz mark though the CPU-Z photo has the clock speed left out.  We also need to put this in the context of Barcelona having a targeted clock speed of 2.8 GHz according to papers presented at ISSCC 2007 though actual production speeds have yet to exceed 2.3 GHz.

One other interesting note is that AMD’s Montreal 8-core processor due out after Shanghai will resort to MCM (Multi Chip Module).  Montreal will be two Shanghai cores glued on to a single processor package.  That means AMD will be adopting the same strategy Intel has been using on its 65nm and first-generation 45nm processors where you take two smaller cores and “glue” them on to a CPU package to have more cores per processor.  Ironically, Intel will be going the opposite direction starting with Intel Nehalem.  Not only will the initial Nehalem-EP 8 MB L3 cache quad-core processor be single-die, but even the much larger Nehalem-EX 8-core processor with 24 MB L3 cache will be single-die.  So in 2009, watch for both companies to reverse their marketing literature touting or disparaging MCM “glue” technology.

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AMD sure has a lot of catching up to do
AMD is making good progress, but they are definitely lagging behind Intel. They better speed things up before Intel knocks them completely out of the race! (We need competition in the processor manufa... (Read the rest)
Posted by: John Musbach Posted on: 03/17/08 You are currently: Logged In | Log out
Intel wants to FAIL??? nucrash   | 03/10/08
HUGE difference here georgeou   | 03/10/08
While you do have a key point in maturity nucrash   | 03/10/08
Intel's timing on native quad and native 8-core is better georgeou   | 03/10/08
Unless you are Apple... nucrash   | 03/10/08
Intel's "native" 8 core is better Prognosticator   | 03/10/08
What does that have to do with the price of Pork? nucrash   | 03/10/08
The answer is that it doesnt matter cornpie   | 03/10/08
It should bring the price of bacon down Prognosticator   | 03/10/08
AMD may have native 8 core nickoli0_z   | 03/11/08
No, AMD Shanghai will be MCM georgeou   | 03/13/08
Also note that Montreal has a quad and octal version georgeou   | 03/14/08
RE: Early photos of AMD Shanghai CPU s_souche   | 03/10/08
Good points/ green chip jheine   | 03/10/08
Servers naturally take advantage of multi-threads georgeou   | 03/10/08
No, you do what you can get away with georgeou   | 03/10/08
Agreed s_souche   | 03/10/08
Native is always better IF you can yield high clock speeds georgeou   | 03/10/08
That is ironic Robert Crocker   | 03/10/08
They split the memory channels georgeou   | 03/10/08
Then do they need DDR3 to Match Intel? dunn@...   | 03/11/08
Not just DDR3, AMD also needs hypertransport 3 and wider execution engine georgeou   | 03/11/08
Why hasn't L2 Cache increased... olePigeon   | 03/10/08
L3 Cache nucrash   | 03/10/08
L3 is shared which is effectively more cache, and Intel is going to L3 georgeou   | 03/10/08
OK, thanks. [nt] olePigeon   | 03/10/08
Woo Hoo! 8GB L3 Cache! ye   | 03/10/08
AMD's 6MB Shanghai cache is almost as big as Intel's 8 MB georgeou   | 03/10/08
Fudzilla: Montreal could be a native eight core CPU GIANTOYSTER   | 03/10/08
It is a massive die, but it's an "MP" part georgeou   | 03/10/08
What are the chances they actually can make them? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 03/10/08
Funny Robert Crocker   | 03/10/08
Hey, fanboy! djchandler   | 03/14/08
True notsofast   | 03/14/08
AMD sure has a lot of catching up to do John Musbach   | 03/17/08

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