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March 16th, 2008

Japan’s ISPs agree to ban P2P pirates

Posted by George Ou @ 8:59 pm

Categories: Infrastructure, Networking, News, Technology policy, Net Neutrality

Tags: Internet Provider, Japan, File-trading, P2P, Internet Service Provider, Piracy, Internet, Internet Service Providers (ISPs), Peer To Peer (P2P), George Ou

Four of Japan’s largest Internet provider organizations have come to an agreement with copyright holders on how to tackle the illegal file trading on P2P (Peer to Peer) networks.  Comprised of about 1000 major and smaller Japanese Internet providers, the four organizations agreed to target flagrant copyright violators by first warning them and then banning them if their behavior doesn’t change.

According to the Daily Yomiuri Online, the Internet providers two years ago attempted to disconnect users anytime they detected the use of Winny (a popular Japanese P2P application) or any other file-sharing software.  But that ran afoul of the Japanese Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications because of concerns of privacy and the providers abandoned that practice.  This time the Internet providers seem to have learned from the past and they’re going to be much more targeted by going after the most obvious transgressors of illegal file trading.

When the copyright owners see a list of IP (Internet Protocol) addresses downloading their copyrighted content, they’ll send that list of violators to the ISP (Internet Service Provider) and the ISP will warn and then ban the copyright infringers if necessary.  This method doesn’t involve any of that politically dreaded DPI (Deep Packet Inspection) since the copyright owner merely needs to look for their own content on the popular file trading sites and ask for a list of peers by merely participating in the file trade.  Not only does this method avoid privacy concerns, it also happens to be the most practical if not the only way of attacking the problem since many file trading applications are already completely encrypted against packet snooping.

Update 5:40AM - Just to make myself extra clear since many people refuse to believe that we are not talking about deep packet inspection here.  P2P in Japan like the latest “Perfect Dark” application (successor to Winny and Share) is already fully encrypted at both the protocol and data level.  That’s encryption is completely bypassed since the content owners merely need to download the Winny, Share, and Perfect Dark and look for their own content that’s being pirated.  Then all they need to do is connect to it as if they were a user and then download the content to see if it is indeed their content.  Then they already have a list of IP addresses that participated in that file exchange.  There’s no decryption, key cracking, or deep packet inspection going on here.

Japan is considered one of the most connected broadband nations on the planet with widespread 100 Mbps broadband service.  Many people in this country believe that by simply offering more capacity, there would be no need to manage the network since congestion problems would be gone.  But Japan teaches us that no matter how much capacity you throw at the problem, congestion will always be a problem and the vast majority of it will be caused by P2P traffic.

At the iGrowthGlobal Panel on Network Management on Capitol Hill (my recap here), I met Haruka Saito who is Counselor for Telecom Policy from the Embassy of Japan.  Mr. Saito was my fellow panelist and he shared the following data with the congressional and FCC staffers in the audience.  He presented the following data from the Japanese Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications which had been studying the issue of Net Neutrality in Japan for more than a year.

Source: Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications, Haruka Saito, Counselor for Telecom Policy, Embassy of Japan

[Updated 3:15PM - I had incorrectly stated that 1% consumes 63% of all traffic because I read the charts wrong.  The corrected text is in bold below.] As you can see, the utilization levels especially for uploads are dangerously high and that P2P traffic absolutely dominates both upload and downloads by a very large margin.  Winny, WinMX, and Share (a successor of Winny) dominates the P2P usage.  From this data, the P2P users that make up 10% of all Internet users in Japan hog ~75% of bandwidth resources and 1% of all Internet users in Japan consume 63% of that 75% share.  That means just 1% of users consume 47% of all the Internet traffic in Japan.  It’s no wonder the ISPs in Japan want a solution that cuts off the most egregious illegal file traders who also happen to be the biggest bandwidth hogs.

George Ou is Technical Director of ZDNet. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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Japan ISPs are doing big mistake
I think this is completely wrong and dangerous direction. The next step would be to listen to every conversation to make sure there is no state secrets talked, and if there are, then the telephone num... (Read the rest)
Posted by: algispetr Posted on: 03/25/08 You are currently: Logged In | Log out
Anonymous P2P and ressource usage s_souche   | 03/16/08
P2P in Japan is already fully encrypted at both protocol and data georgeou   | 03/17/08
For the programs you are talking about s_souche   | 03/17/08
Explain to me how is it difficult to infiltrate georgeou   | 03/17/08
You can have at least two approaches that block identification s_souche   | 03/17/08
At some point in time, you need to know who the source of the file is georgeou   | 03/17/08
Also, the ISP can ban proxy activity explicitly in their terms of service georgeou   | 03/17/08
there are different problems at hand s_souche   | 03/17/08
An ISP can choose what to sell you. Free speech has nothing to do with it. georgeou   | 03/17/08
As I said s_souche   | 03/17/08
cleartext? rkoman@...  ZDNet | 03/17/08
Yes, it's clear text after you decrypt it by participating as the client georgeou   | 03/17/08
Re: Yes, it's clear text after you decrypt it by participating as the clien none none   | 03/17/08
Yup, you got it georgeou   | 03/17/08
RE: Japan's ISPs agree to ban P2P pirates AySz88   | 03/17/08
You read the article wrong then. I never said they're blocking all P2P georgeou   | 03/17/08
Not what I meant... AySz88   | 03/17/08
It is not an opinion that P2P hogs bandwidth like crazy, it is fact georgeou   | 03/17/08
P2P is not inherently bad AySz88   | 03/18/08
I never said block the P2P users as a whole or anything like it georgeou   | 03/18/08
Any business voyager529   | 03/17/08
What's the next Step? nucrash   | 03/17/08
You read it wrong. There's no deep packet inspection going on georgeou   | 03/17/08
Impressive on their behalf, however.... nucrash   | 03/17/08
No they are not ahead of the US, it's a myth that the Free Press likes to p georgeou   | 03/17/08
As I pointed out, you get a warning at which time you have a responsibility georgeou   | 03/17/08
Agreed nucrash   | 03/17/08
RE: Japan's ISPs agree to ban P2P pirates averedify   | 03/17/08
Amazingly stupid. Letophoro   | 03/17/08
The comparison is day and night here. georgeou   | 03/17/08
Well, there just went my second argument nucrash   | 03/17/08
You ignore reality. Letophoro   | 03/17/08
You have to look at the details of what they want to do s_souche   | 03/17/08
Cute rant, totally wrong but cute. (nt) No_Ax_to_Grind   | 03/17/08
Would you care to explain how I'm wrong? (nt) Letophoro   | 03/17/08
American vs Japanese Culture nucrash   | 03/17/08
The Japanese has a very cautious Nature nucrash   | 03/17/08
Next generation P2P coming terry flores   | 03/17/08
RE: Japan's ISPs agree to ban P2P pirates MaxB312   | 03/18/08
RE: Japan's ISPs agree to ban P2P pirates Bifspif   | 03/19/08
It's contrived georgeou   | 03/19/08
Japan ISPs are doing big mistake algispetr   | 03/25/08

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  • Japanese ISPs to take on downloaders
    The IPKat has learnt from ZDNet that ISPs and copyright holders in Japan have reached an agreement by which Japan ’s largest four ISPs will ban flagrant copyright infringers. Copyright owners will peruse lists of IP addresses ...

    Trackback by IPKat - IP news and fun for everyone — March 17, 2008 @ 5:30 pm

  • Japan to Ban P2P Piracy
    Net Neutrality folks like to tout Japan as the model of a fine and healthy Internet access ecosystem, despite the VoIP blocking. They’re going to have a major fit when they learn P2P piracy is about to be banned in Japan: The nation’s four Internet provider organizations

    Trackback by Anonymous — March 18, 2008 @ 3:02 am

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    ...online privacy protections in the Japanese law. http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/20...

    Trackback by Anonymous — March 18, 2008 @ 3:02 am

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    China handles Tibet protests in Greece, NepalSpero News (Seeded By sirensongs)Japan's ISPs agree to ban P2P pirates

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  • Surferwoman
    Breitbart.tv wrote an interesting post today on Here’s a quick excerpt Four of Japan’s largest Internet provider organizations have come to an agreement with copyright holders on how to tackle the illegal file trading on P2P (Peer to Peer) networks. 

    Trackback by Anonymous — March 18, 2008 @ 3:02 am

  • Japan’s ISPs agree to ban P2P pirates
    Breitbart.tv wrote an interesting post today on Here’s a quick excerpt Four of Japan’s largest Internet provider organizations have come to an agreement with copyright holders on how to tackle the illegal file trading on P2P (Peer to Peer) networks. 

    Trackback by Anonymous — March 18, 2008 @ 3:02 am

  • Japan To Ban p2p
    s next armed guards in my home standing over my shoulder watching your every move? People should be up in arms. They are calling them pirates but they are banning everyone who uses it….that’s a bunch’o bull. Article Here -Wes

    Trackback by Anonymous — March 19, 2008 @ 3:02 am

  • Comment on Comcast’s Disappointing Defense by George Ou
    ...http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=1063. You’re desperately grasping at straws Jesse and it’s rather pathetic. P2P file trading is a bandwidth hog...

    Trackback by Anonymous — March 21, 2008 @ 3:02 am

  • Pirates may face a flawed attack
    the data travelling through their networks - an impossibly huge task, the costs of which will most certainly be passed to the consumer. And in Japan, there's an additional benefit to the online community at large, as pointed out by technology columnist George Ou. He highlights data from the Japanese Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications that show "just 1 per cent of internet users in Japan consume 47 per cent of internet traffic in Japan". Thus, apart from reducing the threat of lawsuits from

    Trackback by Anonymous — March 24, 2008 @ 3:02 am

  • Japanese are going to do "graph takedown"...
    Geore Ou reports that the Japanese ISPs are going to start doing something similar to what I noted in january, albeit instead of just attacking the graphs of communication, simply warning and then disconnecting users. (typo fixed, grr)

    Trackback by Nicholas Weaver's Random Thoughts — March 25, 2008 @ 6:11 pm

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