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May 28th, 2008

Ozzie: Open source a more disruptive competitor than Google

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 7:15 am

Categories: Windows client, Windows Live, Web 2.0, Linux, Virtualization, Google, Advertising, Yahoo, Utility/cloud computing

Tags: Google Inc., Ray Ozzie, Microsoft Corp., Productivity, Open Source, Mary Jo Foley

Google has nothing on open source when it comes to potential competitive threats to Microsoft, according to Redmond’s Chief Software Architect Ray Ozzie.

Ozzie fielded a number of questions on his role at Microsoft and the company’s evolving technology strategies during an appearance at the Sanford Bernstein Strategic Decisions Conference on May 28. (I listened to his session via the Webcast.)

Ozzie reiterated that it often takes a strong competitor to truly galvanize Microsoft.

“Microsoft has built up a culture of crisis,” Ozzie told conference attendees.

Competitors like his former employer, Lotus, and now, Google, have spurred the company to make changes to its business to stay ahead, Ozzie said. But while Google is a “tremendously strong competitor,” Ozzie acknowledged, “open source was much more potentially disruptive” to Microsoft’s business. (He noted that, unlike Google, many open-source programmers aren’t beholden to shareholders.)

Ozzie said that competing with open source “made Microsoft a much stronger company.” He cited changes Microsoft has made to its business model — such as focusing on making its closed-source software interoperable with open-source products — as directly attributable to that competition.

During the rest of his hour-long talk, Ozzie focused on many of his favorite topics, such as the need for a mesh for devices and people (Live Mesh) and the importance of giving customers choice (with Software+Services, rather than a 100% cloud-services approach). A few other tidbits from his remarks that I found interesting:

* The changing nature of the operating system in an increasingly services-based world. Ozzie noted that if a new operating system were designed today, it wouldn’t be a single piece of software that operates a single computer. It would be something that could accommodate multiple devices, with the user at the center. That sounds like Live Mesh — but perhaps he was also hinting about Microsoft’s post-Windows, distributed operating system I keep hearing rumors about…

* Yahoo as an “accelerator.”
Ozzie deftly deflected questions about Microsoft’s on-again/off-again deal-making with Yahoo. “Yahoo was not a strategy unto itself,” he said. “It was an accelerator to the ad platform.” Ozzie spoke highly of Yahoo’s work in the social-networking and community space, adding that these kinds of services represented the next wave in communications technology. He also pooh-poohed any notion that Microsoft might be wavering on its commitment to being an online player. “We are very, very serious about the online space,” he said.

* Programming tools that work across a variety of devices
. At the very end of his remarks, Ozzie made a passing reference to the need for not just programming tools and services that can accommodate multi-core/many-core systems, but also tools that can work across a variety of devices. He noted that there’s a need for development tools for building software that works across multiple devices. A reference to the Live Mesh Software Development Kit (SDK), expected to debut at Microsoft’s Professional Developers Conference in late October? Perhaps….

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What is a fool's fool, JamesDoyle?
It is a fool that will never learn that he is a fool for calling other's a fool using his own foolish narrow definition of a fool.

Will you ever learn? I seriously doubt it, especially if you persist in preening your ego by foolishly attempting to insult anyone you happen to disagree with.... (Read the rest)
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Creative distruction makes us all stonger Chalkboy   | 05/28/08
Guess what? MSFT is doing fine w/regard to open source marksashton   | 05/29/08
Dosn't Ozzie Eat Bats? Duke E. Love   | 05/30/08
Success did not make Google disruptive, an assertion I drop quickly to say DannyO_0x98   | 05/28/08
Does that make sense? Anton Philidor   | 05/28/08
Partly... TtfnJohn   | 05/28/08
Another type of competition. Anton Philidor   | 05/28/08
When you're a monopoly..no... TtfnJohn   | 05/28/08
Wrong John L. Ries   | 05/28/08
The two are linked. Anton Philidor   | 05/28/08
In general... John L. Ries   | 05/28/08
I'll take your word for it, but ....... xuniL_z   | 05/28/08
You see, Anton - THAT Attitude is Why MicroShaft Is EVIL! drprod@...   | 05/28/08
What company is this MicroShaft? Is is some new mining ventilation system? transposeIT   | 05/29/08
Yep alaniane@...   | 05/29/08
That sounds about right. xuniL_z   | 06/05/08
Acquieses not competition madrucke@...   | 05/28/08
His stockholder comment... storm14k   | 05/28/08
Where is FOSS a competitor to Microsoft? Anton Philidor   | 05/28/08
Who's in danger here? storm14k   | 05/28/08
Ray Ozzie wouldn't agree TtfnJohn   | 05/28/08
Really??? linux for me   | 05/28/08
Windows server replacements? Really???? transposeIT   | 05/29/08
I have linux servers, but I haven't *switched* Spiritusindomit@...   | 05/29/08
Hope springs eternal Ole Man   | 05/28/08
Message has been deleted. drprod@...   | 05/28/08
Look at the chief backers of OS alaniane@...   | 05/29/08
Where isn't it? Richard Flude   | 05/29/08
Wrong Ricky. xuniL_z   | 06/02/08
take it up with microsoft shis-ka-bob   | 05/30/08
Microsoft is taking growing share marksashton   | 05/29/08
well wait until Google decide to jump into the os fray Quebec-french   | 05/28/08
I thought they would have by now. Which way would they go? xuniL_z   | 05/28/08
Open, but don't see it happening. TripleII   | 05/28/08
I've pictured a sleek, but rather ugly yellow box any day..... xuniL_z   | 05/29/08
Google would be smart not to jump into alaniane@...   | 05/29/08
Why..... An Apple a Day   | 05/28/08
I bet this guy will be the next Boss in Microsoft TristanGrimaux   | 05/28/08
Minor correction - PDC is in October, not next month jpelak   | 05/28/08
Would never know it by watching Ballmer John L. Ries   | 05/28/08
Open source probably IS a more disruptive competitor Olorin_z   | 05/28/08
WGA precludes business use! SpikeyMike   | 05/28/08
RE: Ozzie: Open source a more disruptive competitor than Google wanderson   | 05/28/08
Google is part of the community making community software stevey_d   | 05/28/08
Does this usher in the Ozzie era tech_walker   | 05/28/08
MS fighting its own customers bcarpent1228@...   | 05/28/08
Maybe John L. Ries   | 05/28/08
Put it another way John L. Ries   | 05/28/08
Right, but some people are taking this out of context xuniL_z   | 05/28/08
Past statements... storm14k   | 05/28/08
But you are only giving a one sided story here xuniL_z   | 05/29/08
Competes with its own customers... storm14k   | 05/28/08
Open source defines the basics. djchandler   | 05/28/08
"Open source is too ephemeral" Ole Man   | 05/28/08
You are right. xuniL_z   | 05/29/08
RE: you are right Hemlock Stones   | 05/29/08
you are right Ole Man   | 05/30/08
Here you are Ole Man. These at the least, faintly resemble what I said.... xuniL_z   | 06/02/08
Ole Man suddenly grows silent. Not surprising when his..... xuniL_z   | 06/03/08
Ole Man is watching you (as others are, I imagine) Ole Man   | 06/03/08
Please stay with me here Ole Man. You said..... xuniL_z   | 06/04/08
It depends on what the definition of "is" is.... Ole Man   | 06/06/08
ole man keeps digging his grave deeper JamesDoyle   | 06/06/08
What is a fool's fool, JamesDoyle? Ole Man   | 06/06/08
Are you saying that once someone has xuniL_z   | 06/02/08
Living in the world of "if" is a child's game Ole Man   | 06/03/08
You have got to be kidding. That's a doozy. xuniL_z   | 06/04/08
"It's just natural for your types"....Reading comprehension? Ole Man   | 06/06/08
Open Source is theft. Spiritusindomit@...   | 05/29/08
Then every PC OEM except Lenovo and Apple... John L. Ries   | 05/29/08
Awww....poor buddy... storm14k   | 05/29/08
Then every software vendor/developer alaniane@...   | 05/29/08
here are some examples ... shis-ka-bob   | 05/30/08
RE: Ozzie: Open source a more disruptive competitor than Google randall.shimizu@...   | 05/28/08
Mutual Assured Destruction. TripleII   | 05/28/08
I think people forget alaniane@...   | 05/29/08
Is your consistent..... xuniL_z   | 05/29/08
oops, how ironic is that? xuniL_z   | 05/29/08
RE: Ozzie: Open source a more disruptive competitor than Google sergiovf@...   | 05/28/08
who is driven where? reedjjjr   | 05/28/08
RE: Ozzie: Open source a more disruptive competitor than Google Ashtonian   | 05/29/08
Perhaps that's so alaniane@...   | 05/29/08
Damned dirty programmer Monkey_MCSE   | 05/29/08

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