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October 3rd, 2008

Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 4:07 pm

Categories: Vista, Windows client, Windows XP, Channel, System builders, OEMs, Resellers, Windows 7

Tags: Media, OEM, Microsoft Windows Vista, Microsoft Corp., System Builder, Microsoft Windows Vista (Longhorn), Microsoft Windows XP, Microsoft Windows, Operating Systems, Software

Microsoft is sending some very confusing signals about Windows Vista — the latest of which it issued via a statement on October 3.

The Register reported on October 2 that Microsoft was going to extend again the date until which PC makers would be allowed to continue to offer Windows users “downgrade rights,” enabling them to switch from Vista to XP on new machines. The Reg said Microsoft had moved the downgrade cut-off date from January 31, 2009 to July 31, 2009.

I asked Microsoft about the Reg’s report and got this statement, via a company spokesperson:

 ”As more customers make the move to Windows Vista, we want to make sure that they are making that transition with confidence and that it is as smooth as possible. Providing downgrade media for a few more months is part of that commitment, as is the Windows Vista Small Business Assurance program (available in the U.S. only), which provides 1-on-1, customized support for our small business customers.”

In other words, the Reg’s story was correct.

The spokesperson sent further clarification:

“What’s changing is Microsoft is giving six more months where it will provide downgrade media for XP Professional for OEMs and system builders to provide to their customers who purchase Windows Vista Ultimate and Business editions – (which the company figures will be) largely going to be small businesses since that’s the audience that would want/use XP Pro. So it’s the same old downgrade right thing that was in the EULA (End User License Agreement) before; it’s just Microsoft is providing the media to partners a few months more.”

“The same caveat  with providing the downgrade media as before applies, which is OEMs and system builders don’t have to do so if they don’t want – it’s their business decision to make.”

Microsoft has extended XP’s end-of-life date before. In Apri 2008 l, Microsoft officials said the company was not going to extend again the date on which it required OEMs to stop preloading XP on new machines. That date was June 30, 2008. Microsoft did say that system builders, a k a white box vendors, would be allowed to continue to preload XP on new systems until January 31, 2009. OEMs and system builders both were OK’d to continue preloading XP on new ultra-low-cost systems through 2010, as many of those systems were and are incapable of running Vista.

Bottom line: Even though Microsoft is maintaining publicly that Vista is finally ready for prime time, it is allowing PC makers to continue to offer customers XP. So what’s a user to believe? Is Microsoft really standing behind Vista? And if it’s not — but instead is doing what customers really want (while simply giving lip-service to Vista’s readiness — is that still a positive?

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RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months
This issue is so frustrating to me and my clients for our own personal PC's! The people I know all love XP and we are greatly resenting being practically forced into the Vista O/S.

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How does this compare to... Sleeper Service   | 10/03/08
Also... Sleeper Service   | 10/05/08
So... Linux User 147560   | 10/05/08
No... Sleeper Service   | 10/05/08
MS extends XP downgrade rights by six months Raist1000   | 10/03/08
Stardate: 2436.9 MGP2   | 10/03/08
Looks like they're squirming kozmcrae   | 10/03/08
They looked at what real customers were doing, and... jdickey   | 10/03/08
So who are fake customers? HypnoToad   | 10/05/08
When they quit extending downgrade rights Jack-Booted EULA   | 10/04/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months ghot@...   | 10/04/08
This is surely about the bottom line first... MGP2   | 10/04/08
But how many are actually downgrading? Pliny the Elder   | 10/04/08
Actually, I'm one.... MGP2   | 10/04/08
And that's fine Pliny the Elder   | 10/05/08
My School downgraded mystic100   | 10/06/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months gertruded   | 10/04/08
The title is misleading. It should be: ye   | 10/04/08
Who at Microsoft is your source for this? B.O.F.H.   | 10/04/08
End user. I have seen nothing showing a deadline for downgrading. ye   | 10/04/08
Did you follow the links in the article? B.O.F.H.   | 10/04/08
I followed a few of them. For example: ye   | 10/05/08
So you do understand that this only pertains to VARs/manufacturers? B.O.F.H.   | 10/05/08
You ended up with egg on your face. Deal with it. (nt) ye   | 10/05/08
Ye, your links don't even support your aruement! B.O.F.H.   | 10/05/08
@B.O.F.H.: My argument is: ye   | 10/05/08
Ye, the article (and date change) is pertinent to OEM systems only. B.O.F.H.   | 10/05/08
@B.O.F.H.: And I already told you my comment was... ye   | 10/05/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months FireThorn   | 10/04/08
Yeah, Sure Cardhu   | 10/06/08
SMART GeiselS@...   | 10/04/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months jetsethi   | 10/04/08
Message has been deleted. qmlscycrajg   | 10/04/08
Only a moron would knowingly use a DRM... User07734   | 10/04/08
DRM don't mean nothing ... LBiege   | 10/04/08
Also, you don't even see the DRM Lerianis   | 10/05/08
I don't buy DRM protected contents so I'm not affected qmlscycrajg   | 10/05/08
So even though you did nothing wrong Linux User 147560   | 10/05/08
not affected? reedjjjr   | 10/06/08
Walmart customers would disagree mystic100   | 10/06/08
Business savvy? Sleeper Service   | 10/05/08
Uh, Yes. User07734   | 10/05/08
LOL! Sleeper Service   | 10/05/08
Managers don't care Lerianis   | 10/05/08
Wrong again... rbslack@...   | 10/07/08
running Windows XP under Vista ThinkFair   | 10/04/08
This is totally stupid Lerianis   | 10/05/08
Definition of legacy ibtechnologies@...   | 10/06/08
You Hit The Nail Square On The Head Cardhu   | 10/06/08
RE:definition of legacy rbslack@...   | 10/07/08
Identify The Industries With Which You Have Actual Experience Cardhu   | 10/07/08
UAC Is The One Most Criticized Aspect of Vista Cardhu   | 10/06/08
Something else that is stupid andrew@...   | 10/06/08
They have no choice. kraterz   | 10/05/08
Then you've never used one or the other mikefarinha   | 10/06/08
This is 2008, not 1999. kraterz   | 10/06/08
Too many problems with even newer hardware mystic100   | 10/06/08
Now That is atotal fabrication... rbslack@...   | 10/07/08
Reports Of Vista Problems Are Not Fabrications Cardhu   | 10/07/08
I Question The Piracy Claims Cardhu   | 10/07/08
Google "devilsown" rtk   | 10/07/08
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What You Consider A "Reference" Cardhu   | 10/07/08
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RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months alandee4   | 10/06/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months ibtechnologies@...   | 10/06/08
What this means to us in manufacturing dragosani   | 10/06/08
Microsoft Is Indifferent Cardhu   | 10/06/08
Then you have bad systems.... fmg9800   | 10/06/08
You Plainly Have No Idea How Many Devices Cardhu   | 10/06/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months shanedr   | 10/06/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months ITsupportGuy   | 10/06/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months wgrimes   | 10/06/08
Cost of hardware stomfi@...   | 10/06/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months BradO931   | 10/07/08
Interoperability With Legacy Systems As A Requirement Cardhu   | 10/08/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months kellylinder@...   | 11/16/08

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