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October 9th, 2008

How much would an $800 Apple laptop hurt Microsoft?

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 8:47 am

Categories: Vista, Windows client, Corporate strategy, Windows XP, Apple, Channel, System builders, OEMs, Resellers, Windows 7

Tags: PC, Microsoft Windows Vista, Apple Inc., Microsoft Corp., Laptop Computer, Microsoft Windows, Ultramobile PCs (UMPCs), Microsoft Windows Vista (Longhorn), Desktops, Operating Systems

Just when the Windows marketing team thought things probably couldn’t get much worse, there’s word that Apple may be gearing up to launch a new Macbook with a low-end $800 price point.

One of the biggest selling points for new Vista PCs is price. There are more than a few decent Vista laptops out there for under $1,000.

Apple’s PC marketshare is hovering around eight to nine percent in the U.S. For many, Apple machines are still just too expensive — even though the lowest end Macbooks can be had for about $1, 099. But if users could get an Apple laptop for $800, I’d think many would think longer and harder about whether to go with Windows or Mac OS X.

Microsoft — and its PC partners — aren’t sitting idly by waiting for Apple to eat its lunch. Microsoft execs have stated repeatedly that the company, going forward, is working more closely with OEMs to create better out-of-the-box experiences for Windows PC users. It sounds like this will go beyond reducing and/or removing crapware.

There are other projects hatching in other groups at Microsoft, too. Microsoft Corporate Vice President Bill Mitchell and his PC|3 team, which is part of Microsoft’s Core Operating System Division (COSD), is working on “improving the mobile PC experience” for users in the developed and developing worlds both. From what little I’ve heard about PC|3, it sounds like at least part of its mission involves picking up where the Ultra-Mobile PC (UMPC) folks at Microsoft left off.

Microsoft has been mum on when/how/if it can get Vista and its successors to run on ultra-low-cost PCs (ULPCs). Currently, because of system requirements, Microsoft allows ULPC makers to ship with Windows XP, not Vista, and will do so through 2010. Given that magic 2010 cut-off date, I’d expect that the Windows team is working to produce some Windows 7 SKU that will be customized to run on ULPC systems.

Don’t forget, coming up from the other end of the market, there’s also a skunkworks effort inside Microsoft to port Windows Mobile to Mobile Internet Devices (MIDs). No word on what’s happening on that front….

If Apple does, indeed field an $800 laptop, do you think Microsoft will lose much market share? What else should and could Microsoft be doing to steel itself for a possible Apple price attack?

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RE: $800 Apple laptop hurt Microsoft?
There are two issues to consider here.

First This is the first time that Apple has positioned it's Mac book in direct competition with Microsoft.Perhaps Apple sees Microsoft as a wounded Elepha... (Read the rest)
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Maybe, maybe not. nix_hed   | 10/09/08
Typo and no edit button, still... nix_hed   | 10/09/08
re: no edit button Badgered   | 10/09/08
You can edit your post... Linux User 147560   | 10/09/08
You can already access the MB's hard drive! electronista   | 10/09/08
I don't want apple... vandchaynes@...   | 10/09/08
Hmmm, maldain   | 10/10/08
what total BS Paul Fletcher   | 10/10/08
Do You Work For Microsoft? justgold79@...   | 10/10/08
No, he's just yet another Bush Nazi Micro$haft Bigot drprod@...   | 10/10/08
I had to ask justgold79@...   | 10/13/08
You should get some medication for that issue you have - nt USTechHead   | 10/14/08
Fail dclhacker   | 10/10/08
FUD... Wolfie2K3   | 10/10/08
You forget.. arminw   | 10/10/08
Download time for the app itself is minimal mrlinux   | 10/13/08
@ Arminw: Printers... Wolfie2K3   | 10/14/08
@ MrLinux: Cut the FUD... Please... It's NOT becoming.. Wolfie2K3   | 10/14/08
Pass--flying colors. gypkap@...   | 10/10/08
lol. non-res TacoSauce   | 10/11/08
Fail? tmeers   | 10/13/08
Congratulations on your newly acquired trolls. Sleeper Service   | 10/14/08
Riigghhhtttt.... ajole   | 10/10/08
I like linux but... deowll   | 10/10/08
Ever tried Xandros? JCitizen   | 10/12/08
Let me clarify my statement... vandchaynes@...   | 10/10/08
"user status" = Sheep Graham Ellison   | 10/10/08
Yeah, right vandchaynes@...   | 10/10/08
I detest the non user deowll   | 10/10/08
Here's an idea sdwood   | 10/11/08
BIOS'es to make removal of Vista impossible .... fr0thy2   | 10/10/08
Put the crack pipe DOWN, fool... Wolfie2K3   | 10/10/08
Shhh he's the court jester and the entertainment USTechHead   | 10/14/08
I had a smart/dumb idea a long time ago... deowll   | 10/10/08
You're right - smart AND dumb jdickey   | 10/13/08
NOT smart... Just dumb... Wolfie2K3   | 10/14/08
Ahh another comment to prove the point - keep it up - thank you! nt USTechHead   | 10/14/08
Right on kguzzi@...   | 10/10/08
I'm not a fan of Apple, but . . . jjworleyeoe   | 10/09/08
I agree P. Douglas   | 10/09/08
Vista sux VistaSux   | 10/11/08
Yawn nt USTechHead   | 10/14/08
My wife loves her Vista laptop. vandchaynes@...   | 10/09/08
If they could, they would Graham Ellison   | 10/10/08
Nope... That's wrong... Wolfie2K3   | 10/10/08
Wrong? athynz   | 10/10/08
never did answer the question NoThomas   | 10/13/08
RE: How much would an $800 Apple laptop hurt Microsoft? dave@...   | 10/09/08
Wanna make a bet? Graham Ellison   | 10/10/08
Apple will hurt M$, but Linux will kill it because... Linux Geek   | 10/10/08
Sorry, but Linux is a dream that no one's buying... vpitman1@...   | 10/11/08
Linux will kill Windows tech_walker   | 10/11/08
Maybe we have a clue on this. deowll   | 10/10/08
"apple 'raping' its customers" brian ansorge   | 10/10/08
Hard to say John L. Ries   | 10/09/08
Maybe, but it will be more of the same from Apple stano360   | 10/10/08
Really? ajole   | 10/10/08
It's not just the hardware... arminw   | 10/10/08
You can forget it. deowll   | 10/10/08
It depends on... jdickey   | 10/14/08
RE: How much would an $800 Apple laptop hurt Microsoft? bobiroc   | 10/09/08
Your $650 windows laptop aplman   | 10/10/08
That is the dumbest logic I've ever heard patrykg@...   | 10/10/08
I agree bobiroc   | 10/10/08
Problems on both platforms.... vandchaynes@...   | 10/10/08
The most reliable machine. deowll   | 10/10/08
Really? Look at car warranties bmoore@...   | 10/10/08
Mac Convert.... PowerMacSC   | 10/10/08
I priced them both out bobiroc   | 10/10/08
come back to reality rud ver   | 10/10/08
Talk about moron logic bobiroc   | 10/10/08
Here's the Deal... PowerMacSC   | 10/10/08
Windows no more fox.kenji   | 10/10/08
Re: Hear's the Deal... bobiroc   | 10/10/08
Expensive OS Graham Ellison   | 10/15/08
No you won't. deowll   | 10/10/08
Really? .............. kuilboer   | 10/10/08
re: Really? robertleeking@...   | 10/12/08
So macs arent built buy Chinese? JCitizen   | 10/12/08
There are some on sales out there that starts as zulubuck   | 10/10/08
About as much as their $700 Mini has hurt the desktop market. Sleeper Service   | 10/09/08
Exactly. nt T1Oracle   | 10/09/08
Desktops are just not hot in any form. TripleII   | 10/09/08
yeah, but... ericesque   | 10/09/08
I'll likely stick with a tower CobraA1   | 10/09/08
Thank You! vandchaynes@...   | 10/09/08
I play games. Sleeper Service   | 10/10/08
Ditto tikigawd   | 10/10/08
Desktop and a Laptop! I love redundancy, what about netbooks?! David the Nerd   | 10/10/08
You have to love Antec stano360   | 10/10/08
I prefer desktop timiteh   | 10/10/08
I'll stick with my tower...laptop is nice USTechHead   | 10/10/08
That does seem to be a trend.. deowll   | 10/10/08
Not exactly... sdwood   | 10/12/08
it would Monkeypox   | 10/09/08
MS shouldn't even raise an eyebrow. T1Oracle   | 10/09/08
Poor creature kitko   | 10/09/08
re: Radio is dead. Badgered   | 10/09/08
Actually Radio is alive, my Creative Zen 16GB MP3 player can tune it T1Oracle   | 10/09/08
Radio is dead. deowll   | 10/10/08
Very Little adante256   | 10/09/08
Marketshare isn't the killer really. TripleII   | 10/09/08
Not MS vs Apple j.m.galvin   | 10/09/08
More buyers attract more Apps mimididi   | 10/10/08
Why keep a Wintel system? sdwood   | 10/12/08
*facepalm* Sleeper Service   | 10/13/08
Two months ago I would have said GuidingLight   | 10/09/08
Its still x86 which means users will install Windows on it Mr. Dee   | 10/09/08
APPLE OS's NEED TO BE A VMWARE COMPATIBLE NOW pcguy777   | 10/09/08
Not going to happen electronista   | 10/09/08
In fact that is part of the attraction. deowll   | 10/10/08
Who in their right mind would buy a CHEAP Mac? Scrat   | 10/09/08
Holy weird post batwoman! TripleII   | 10/09/08
"the entire Apple product line only about status?" Duh! nt T1Oracle   | 10/09/08
It isn't though. TripleII   | 10/09/08
Uh, have you missed the whole point of Apple? stano360   | 10/10/08
All Mac = Epic Fail Mectron   | 10/09/08
hmmm john@...   | 10/09/08
well Badgered   | 10/09/08
Please expand c-chops   | 10/09/08
I will expand a little bit bobiroc   | 10/09/08
thank you Mectron   | 10/09/08
LOL fox.kenji   | 10/10/08
Well... Badgered   | 10/10/08
It comes down to that very often bobiroc   | 10/10/08
Look... vikingnyc@...   | 10/10/08
Demand? bobiroc   | 10/10/08
Sheer ignorance of Mectron fox.kenji   | 10/09/08
Really? Sleeper Service   | 10/10/08
How about this? fox.kenji   | 10/10/08
99.9% of cult members love their cult Paul Fletcher   | 10/10/08
How about we ignore Mectron's bad language skills bmerc   | 10/10/08
I did fox.kenji   | 10/10/08
"a shiny plastic case" bmerc   | 10/10/08
It's spelled "Macs" not "Mectron" but I see your point. nt T1Oracle   | 10/10/08
Dullard deowll   | 10/10/08
Mectron, are you on a worldwide cruise on the failboat? Scrat   | 10/11/08
There are alot of Porsche Boxsters on the road. NT bmonster   | 10/09/08
911 = not all that Graham Ellison   | 10/10/08
If you say so but... deowll   | 10/10/08
who in their right mind would buy a mac ? CexCells   | 10/10/08
RE: How much would an $800 Apple laptop hurt Microsoft? wings_rfs@...   | 10/09/08
I am officially a Windows Fanboi! Cool, never was one before. TripleII   | 10/09/08
Look outside the window,,,, Mectron   | 10/09/08
OK, I was fine with this thread for awhile... vikingnyc@...   | 10/10/08
Spell checker is your friend Graham Ellison   | 10/10/08
Sniffing the fumes again? athynz   | 10/10/08
and Jobs stole the entire thing including the mouse. deowll   | 10/10/08
A major dent fox.kenji   | 10/09/08
Cherry picking factoids does not a good argument make. Sleeper Service   | 10/09/08
talk about being in denial fox.kenji   | 10/10/08
And the quarterly sales figures... Sleeper Service   | 10/13/08
If he has something that makes my heart beat faster... deowll   | 10/10/08
Microsoft's Going Down David Blomstrom   | 10/09/08
Why is Bill Gate's philantropy phony? Roque Mocan   | 10/09/08
Leaving Microsoft??? David Blomstrom   | 10/09/08
Because Mr Blomstrom has not told you his agenda GuidingLight   | 10/09/08
what? mistermachine   | 10/09/08
Also Boot_Agnostic   | 10/10/08
why is it phony? mistermachine   | 10/09/08
Nope... Sleeper Service   | 10/09/08
money doesn't buy happyness. deowll   | 10/10/08
... and so what if he is? Doing the right ... mwagner@...  ZDNet | 10/10/08
It's not Bill Gates' philanthropy, it's Melinda's bmerc   | 10/10/08
Yeah, but it's Bill's money. Sleeper Service   | 10/14/08
Melodramatic bmonster   | 10/09/08
It isn't clear that all Mac sells hurt MS as much as Mac fans claim. deowll   | 10/10/08
Phony? Well you're not even worth the dirt Bill Gates walks on... transposeIT   | 10/10/08
Agree - Bill G is no phony philanthropist Dan the Digital Dog   | 10/10/08
Gates Image is irrelevant! pikeman666   | 10/10/08
RE: Agreed, Notebooks Rule mistermachine   | 10/09/08
See, with my Windows laptop... Sleeper Service   | 10/09/08
because Mectron   | 10/09/08