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July 17th, 2008

Open source should support Apple over Psystar

Posted by Dana Blankenhorn @ 2:08 pm

Categories: General, Software Licensing, Legal, Government, Apple, BSD, GPL

Tags: GPL, EULA, Apple Inc., Principles, Open Source, Dana Blankenhorn

Psystar logoI have been wracking my brain all day for an angle on this Apple-Psystar story (great work by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes) and I can’t come up with one.

Save this. Open source should be supporting Apple here.

Think about it. What is at the heart of open source? Contracts. The BSD and GPL licenses are contracts, which people freely enter into before they agree to download. Apple’s EULA is the same sort of thing.

Sure, the Apple EULA is nasty and green and yucky, while the open source licenses are juicyful and filled with deliciousness.

Apple licenses tie you down and are written in a way that would have Einstein tearing his hair out. Open source licenses give you freedom and are written in a language called English unknown to most lawyers.

But if a company can ignore an Apple EULA, another company can ignore the GPL. Isn’t that what folks like Harold Welte at GPL Violations are fighting so hard for, the recognition of software contracts as legitimate?

To those who like to stick it to proprietary outfits — and Apple is the most proprietary outfit there is – this may stand as an inconvenient principle. But it is a principle.

Principles are only worthwhile when they are applied consistently. Otherwise they are mere flags of convenience.

Dana Blankenhorn has been a business journalist for 30 years, a tech freelancer since 1983. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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Another option would be for them
to open source it then they wouldn't have to bear the brunt of the R&D. I'm not sure if they have a copy of Quicktimes that they sell or not; I know they have a free copy for Windows which I rarely use and definitely don't keep on my machine.... (Read the rest)
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You're off rpmyers1   | 07/17/08
Way off Richard Flude   | 07/17/08
EULA = Doublespeak rpmyers1   | 07/17/08
Can we just say Len Rooney   | 07/17/08
Yes We Can DannyO_0x98   | 07/18/08
Marshmallows Len Rooney   | 07/19/08
The EULA does take away rights... DanaBlankenhorn  ZDNet | 07/17/08
Did they agree? rpmyers1   | 07/17/08
That's not true laura.b   | 07/18/08
There it is Len Rooney   | 07/18/08
Confusion and Misunderstanding daengbo   | 07/21/08
What the hell are you smoking? laura.b   | 07/21/08
A License grants rights and withholds others Marcos El Malo   | 07/18/08
On second thought . . . Marcos El Malo   | 07/18/08
Actually it doesn't *restrict* hardware usage wolf_z   | 07/20/08
There's always an implied license alaniane@...   | 07/29/08
Option nunber 3 - You challenge the validity of said contract. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 07/19/08
Actually Richard Flude   | 07/19/08
Wrong daengbo   | 07/21/08
Wrong Mectron   | 07/17/08
The Devil? aj.redmond@...   | 07/18/08
RE: Open source should support Apple over Psystar xxyl   | 07/17/08
In reality daengbo   | 07/18/08
This is way off base, Dana. BrucePerens   | 07/17/08
I am be wrong... zkiwi   | 07/17/08
You're right DanaBlankenhorn  ZDNet | 07/17/08
Having someone say... zkiwi   | 07/17/08
They don't have to declare the license alaniane@...   | 07/29/08
That *IS* reverse engineering rpmyers1   | 07/17/08
Really? zkiwi   | 07/17/08
Thanks for responding DanaBlankenhorn  ZDNet | 07/17/08
Apple did choose.... mrlinux   | 07/18/08
Not really since the BSD license alaniane@...   | 07/29/08
OSX is not an OS - it is an interface built on FreeBSD chuck@...   | 07/18/08
The FreeBSD license is NOT the GPL (NT) Update victim   | 07/18/08
Also see the light tBuggR   | 07/18/08
Apples EULA... mrlinux   | 07/18/08
Except for the fact that you would open alaniane@...   | 07/29/08
IBM sued and lost daengbo   | 07/21/08
Finally the voice of reason kitko   | 07/17/08
But daengbo   | 07/18/08
GPL is not much better Duke E. Love   | 07/17/08
License terms and contracts are choices DanaBlankenhorn  ZDNet | 07/17/08
WHAT? Duke E. Love   | 07/17/08
Choices? aj.redmond@...   | 07/18/08
Iraq? Marcos El Malo   | 07/18/08
Dana, Dana, Dana People   | 07/18/08
Could you be more explicit? DanaBlankenhorn  ZDNet | 07/18/08
Just misinformed aj.redmond@...   | 07/18/08
Go back to IBM's introduction of the PC. Ken_z   | 07/18/08
I seriously doubt that IBM, HP alaniane@...   | 07/29/08
Not necessarily exolon   | 07/19/08
It's simple daengbo   | 07/18/08
Beautifully argued kaiwai   | 07/17/08
Erm.. zkiwi   | 07/18/08
Na kaiwai   | 07/18/08
Raised but escaped, but considering a return... zkiwi   | 07/18/08
Nice to hear from the All Blacks DanaBlankenhorn  ZDNet | 07/18/08
*ahem* zkiwi   | 07/18/08
Whatever. It's a beautiful country DanaBlankenhorn  ZDNet | 07/18/08
Nelson Len Rooney   | 07/18/08
Seems logical to me People   | 07/18/08
When will Apple Support Open Source?! shawn_dude   | 07/18/08
One question... zkiwi   | 07/18/08
A bit more than trivial Stuka   | 07/18/08
Another option would be for them alaniane@...   | 07/29/08
Apple does support OSS. People   | 07/18/08
eula yeah right system_001@...   | 07/18/08
May I suggest... Stuka   | 07/18/08
That's not the way the law works DanaBlankenhorn  ZDNet | 07/18/08
And if everyone thought and did like you People   | 07/18/08
Use your brain, mate aj.redmond@...   | 07/18/08
iTunes on Linux stevejg61   | 07/18/08
The real argument there isn't with Apple DanaBlankenhorn  ZDNet | 07/18/08
RE: Open source should support Apple over Psystar ebudae@...   | 07/18/08
RE: Open source should support Apple over Psystar freygr   | 07/18/08
Maybe not John L. Ries   | 07/18/08
I think the big question is how enforceable an unsigned contract is Michael Kelly   | 07/18/08
Software is already classed as a literary work wolf_z   | 07/20/08
We are better than you! Narg   | 07/18/08
Timothy S. Vernor vs. Autodesk – Erosion of the EULA kyron.gustafson@...   | 07/18/08
Thanks for presenting that Kyron DanaBlankenhorn  ZDNet | 07/18/08
I'm Confused Dana aj.redmond@...   | 07/18/08
No about turn here DanaBlankenhorn  ZDNet | 07/19/08
Or, EULAs need to be discarded entirely. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 07/18/08
Just curious Michael Kelly   | 07/18/08
Niether No_Ax_to_Grind   | 07/19/08
Not fighting for principle C0MM3NT   | 07/18/08
Wow. People   | 07/18/08
EULAs and GPL are different beasts Marcos El Malo   | 07/18/08
Dana, if I couldn't see your picture, People   | 07/18/08
Over 30? DanaBlankenhorn  ZDNet | 07/18/08
Bull wizardb@...   | 07/18/08
Isn't that allowed under the BSD? DanaBlankenhorn  ZDNet | 07/18/08
There it is --mispost Len Rooney   | 07/18/08
Open Source can't support Apple tracy anne   | 07/18/08
So how important is Psystar now? Ken_z   | 07/18/08
Ah, another "Pystar is a scam" post wolf_z   | 07/20/08
Well... Spiritusindomit@...   | 07/18/08
Hating Apple Won't Sell More Linux g15host   | 07/18/08
Two points John L. Ries   | 07/19/08
RE: Open source should support Apple over Psystar Graham Ellison   | 07/19/08
Almost agree John L. Ries   | 07/19/08
The principle DanaBlankenhorn  ZDNet | 07/19/08
No, they don't. wolf_z   | 07/20/08
RE: Open source should support Apple over Psystar russell@...   | 07/20/08
RE: Open source should support Apple over Psystar C0MM3NT   | 07/21/08

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