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Trenton Garmon 0:19 Welcome one Welcome all to I Heart Radio. This is Trenton Garmon live, bringing to you a two part show today we've got Marty Schelper from the Alabama republicans against medical marijuana prohibition or just marijuana prohibition, she's going to be discussing the recent change that we have seen in some of the lawmakers perspectives in regard to natural medicine and where that's going, Marty, thank you for being with us here on the show. Tell us congratulations on your big win. Tell us what's going on in the world of Alabama's consideration of medical marijuana.

Marty Schelper 0:58 Well, thank you, Trenton. And it's a big win for the citizens of Alabama, I don't want to you know, overshadow that by any stretch of the imagination. And we are excited, you know, the SB-46, passed the Alabama Senate. It's moving on to the house HELP Committee and the House Judiciary Committee. And it'll pass those two committees and move on to a debate on the floor of the Alabama house.

Trenton Garmon 1:25 That's great to hear. So as I understand it, which is just part of the process. And I always like to sort through some of the most difficult elements First, the power hurdles, but there's been an additional committee that's required of this bill, is that true and accurate?

Marty Schelper 1:40 It is because of the legalization of cannabis for this Senate. And because it is considered a medical bill, it has to go through the Judiciary Committee and it has to go through the house Health Committee. That's why there's two committees that have been assigned to this. And we do not know at this time, which one it's going to go through first.

Trenton Garmon 2:04 Okay. And back in December of 2019 believe there was a report of medical cannabis that was issued by study commission 18 total, members of the Commission looks like seven medical doctors, two PhDs, three lawyers, two pharmacists, two psychiatrists turn to neurologists and a radiology oncologist. So we're seeing I think, progresses to natural medicine for the state, which is only one of five in the entire United States that has total prohibition against medical marijuana. And so thank you for what you're doing for the people that do suffer from the conditions that are covered. What are some of the conditions that that you think this bill will help because obviously, their citizens out there and others opposition that is going to be, you know, something that's going to have to be overcome in the Senate, I believe, or the house, believe the speaker is saying that he's going to do everything he can to delay the passing of it, which is extremely discouraging when you consider there's probably some child at some point in time that's going to have epileptic seizure. And you know, this church of god man is rooted in his radical Protestantism. So it seems for the moment, but what are some of the conditions that the bill and the commission that was appointed to study it have a viable way to to be beneficial? And what are your thoughts as to that report?

Marty Schelper 3:23 Okay, I do want to mention since you asked about the different conditions, there was one amendment from Senator Bobby Singleton that was added to the list, it was amended, and to include sickle cell anemia. So we were really happy about that. But you mentioned epileptic seizures, autism, cancer patients, people who have chronic pain. The list goes on and on. The legislation is out there. If people will go to our Facebook page, Alabama republicans against marijuana prohibition. We're posting tons of information out there with links so that people can read the legislation. We're posting information so people can contact their legislators, because we're at a very, very critical time right now with this House Judiciary Committee, and the house Health Committee. We need citizens of the state of Alabama to call and email the members of those two House committees and let them know personally how important that this cannabis legislation is to them. And I want to remind people, cannabis has an ancient history. This is not something that we just discovered, you know, miraculously discovered that cannabis is beneficial to the endocannabinoid system that every human being has to keep their bodies in a state of homeostasis. This plant is put here by God, to heal the nation's and for us to be able to heal our bodies. And I want people to know, these legislators either need to be educated, or you just need to let them know that this is important. To you, and if it's not important to them, you should have the right to choose.

Trenton Garmon 5:04 Well, it goes back to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness against these four these rights was the reason that government is there that they exist to secure the citizens rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness endowed by our Creator. So I think you're spot on Marty, and we look and see science is confirming it. There's obviously always changes in perspective, you know, with culture, but yeah, no, no, would you say the list goes on. I mean, there's right now very clear itemized list of what conditions it would be designed to treat, of course, the method and manner in which it would be distributed and believe the seed to sale part of the bill is very beneficial for even local farmers and business people because it's gonna require there be a stringent process and all of the cannabis that is eventually becomes medicine and process would have been grown in the state of Alabama. And of course, would be employing by way of being, you know, prove people to work for those farmers and people to work for them, the dispensers themselves. So with regard to the opposition, go ahead.

Marty Schelper 6:10 I just wanted to say and and that was something that was very important to Senator Tim Melton, from Florence that sponsored sb 46. That could go to Nelson.

Trenton Garmon 6:19 Yeah, he's been there need to really cheer him on, because he stood in the gap and just continued to speak. He's a medical doctor, of course. But speaking half of those that understand the medical benefits and what 45 out of 50 other states understand, it's odd that we have the House Speaker saying that they're going to take their time, which to me, that is really a sandbagging approach to medicine. That's very unfortunate. But go ahead. You were saying?

Marty Schelper 6:48 Yeah, the reason I wanted to mention him is because he did stand up for the citizens of Bama, not just the sick, suffering and dying who need access to this. But he stood up for the farmers in the state of Alabama, and people forget how many jobs are going to be brought on online. When this program is implemented? It's not just going to be the farmers. I mean, there's going to be this is going to be like a cottage industry that's created. And it's going to provide funding into the state of Alabama, just for the lot, they do not know. I mean, I really do think that I know what the blowback is, but I mean, you know, 3637 other sites in the nation have access to medicinal therapeutic cannabis. It's time for Alabama to lead. The state of Oklahoma is working on legislation right now that anyone from any other site can come to Oklahoma, go to a doctor, get a medical card, and have access to their medicinal cannabis program and the shadow Oklahoma. Sure, Oklahoma is leading. Now those people can't transport that product legally back to the states where they actually live. Well,

Trenton Garmon 8:04 that's probably not deeply rooted, no constitutional truth. But there were three public hearings held on the cannabis proposal as part of the study. And of course, it examined federal laws, regulations of other states made a recommendation to the legislature and as you brought up earlier, there was an overwhelming approval, we had 12 out of the 18. On the panel, three abstained to give a recommendation or vote in favor, but of that group that we discussed there just briefly earlier, there's overwhelming support. So I do hope that the house, pushes the ball in the endzone and allows for those Alabamians who are going to go to their doctor and follow their doctor's advice, to not have a bureaucratic sandbag and barrier to that very basic human right. And I believe if my child's laying on the floor having an epileptic seizure, and I knew that one droplet of hemp or cannabis or some type of medicine The doctor has approved would alleviate that. God forbid some bureaucratic lawmakers stand in the middle and in the way of that so Marty, you're are in my prayers. You are one of my heroes out on the forefront doing the work because I know it's not easy. herding cats is that kind of what it seems like when you're trying to get this bill back through and well for approval and considered.

Marty Schelper 9:28 I do own a business which affords me time and I spend 12 to 14 hours a day on average on cannabis advocacy. And I feel like that I'm juggling bottles and herding cats. The most important thing that I can cite today, if you are within the sound of my voice, and you are on social media, con Conde tak the house, this the Alabama House members and let them know that this is important to you. Even if it's not Something that you think that you would use, but you think that it's someone in your family may need or a friend, someone at your church, please contact the members of the Alabama house and let them know that you're in support of this because if you're talking about it on social media, they're not seeing it. If you contact them directly, they know that it's something that's of importance to you. And right now, from what I hear from the members that I speak with, they tell me that their constituents are not interested in this. Their their constituents are contacting them. So they assume that their constituents aren't interested, please email and call the house legislature and let them know that the Senate Bill 46, the compassion act is important to you, Please, I'm begging you.

Trenton Garmon 10:49 Well, then as you brought up, it is a matter to have faith because oddly enough, the Catholic Church within the Catechism proves it for medicinal therapeutic purposes. Judaism undoubtedly accepts it. Hindus do not oppose it. It's also used by Muslims. But radical Protestantism is a very unfortunate problem in natural medicine in many perspectives, and oftentimes, we have people speaking out of turn, and out of ignorance rather than expertise. So it's a beautiful thing that we've got it where it is, and I believe, Martin that you're going to push it on through the house and we're praying for House Speaker, but cuts incentive hoping that his mind will continue to be open to what the expert panel recommended. Thank you for joining us for part one of Trenton, Garmon live, we're Your source for civil rights news and legal docket reports. We'll be right back.

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Welcome back to Trenton, Garmon live here in week number 13 of our show block. I've got here the program director with me john mounts, a guy that has a very keen mind may end up giving a nickname like j roll or studio john or something,

Marty Schelper 12:49 whatever you want.

Trenton Garmon 12:51 We're gonna be talking through the legal docket portion of our time together here in this second part of the show. Specifically, I've got a title that hope doesn't offend people. But if it does, it's intended for a positive purpose. But the right to life, mass incarceration is modern slavery. And I'm gonna be discussing with you the concern that I have, over the detainees that America has housed over a police overreach 99% of state troopers are properly trained and duly executed upon their duties in a way they should. But I believe about probably one third of the police in general are not properly trained. And there is a major concern with deputies and chairs that are housing. Some of we the people who do have bare minimum constitutional rights case we're going to talk about today and then we're going to launch into some of a Trump discussion with john and what's going on, obviously, with the 25,000 troops that are being activated or are activated outside of DC, you know, be mindful that each one of the academies has about 4000 cadets. So you're looking at literally six times the number of what would be cadets now actively guarding Washington DC, where Joseph Biden who is alleged to have stolen election is seated as the executive head of a federal government. And I do think there are some major concerns that we the people should have because we've not had the opportunity for discovery to properly be done. Did the minion voting systems allow for there to be algorithm issues and literally cheating done at a global level because he who leads the United States of America is leading the nation with the most powerful military on the planet. And of course, the relations with Iran have significantly changed because of this transition of power and We've seen our first military strike where that was required to be done or not required to be done is a decision I would not want to have to make. So we do need to be praying for our leaders praying for those that are in powers over us of government. But of course, when I say over us, it's a duty that they're vested with, to secure and to protect us. And I think that's where most Americans are concerned. And I think that's where you see the massive public outcry that we had January 6, at the insurrection. And, you know, you might as well consider that a form of I battle because that was an ideological group coming against another ideological group. And I'm a Catholic, so I'm a person of peace, I do not advocate violence. And that is a three year ago transition there about that I made. But, you know, the truth is, we the people, I believe, are concerned of the two party system we have. And this is unprecedented times, undoubtedly in our country. But mass incarceration is modern slavery in the case that we're going to talk about just briefly, is one I'm going to leave anonymous because it is pending in a federal court. It involves a county detention center. And I won't name again, which one or the name of the client, but this county detention center literally disregarded at least two medical requests that we can prove for help a man was writing suicide notes gave him to other detainees that were there. The deputies totally neglected him did not provide any access to medical care, he attempted to kill himself and then unfortunately, was not successful was was was ultimately successful in his first attempt was not successful, and they still did not take proper action. These are civil rights breaches. We know based on right reason, laws of logic still work in courtrooms because our court system is designed and can only function when we operate in an understanding that natural law, neighborly care are the standard set out by the Constitution. So here the citizen, who I represent the daughter of that has experienced some extreme trauma. And I've been learning that your father was scheduled to be released is what we think the evidence is going to prove. I haven't come to conclusion, I believe that we can prove that. But in this anonymous case, it's believed that this guy was supposed to not even continue to be housed. But we undoubtedly can show because another department came in to do the investigation. That's how they're handled. And, of course, talking about the case, publicly, anonymously is perfectly acceptable, except exceptionally speaking. So because I'm able to disclaim that to the jury and ask if they've heard any of the anonymous details. But point is this family, I believe, was deprived of the right of life, and the right to proper medical treatment to their father, grandfather for some of the survivors, and he ended up killing himself in a sale, probably not supposed to be there, concrete sale concrete cage, looked like he was under fed. And undoubtedly, the department that did the investigation is going to be able to establish on my client's behalf, from pictures that there were notes inside the sale that he had written and had not yet been able to have the opportunity to give to a deputy. So john, when you hear that kind of fact pattern, I mean, you're you're not an attorney, but you're an expert in what you do. And you bring a very keen perspective to the table. You know, what, what are your thoughts and your knee jerk reaction to that kind of alleged fact pattern?

John Todd 18:35 It's always disconcerting. Trent, when I hear about people who, whether they did the right thing or wrong thing, it doesn't matter. They they're not under a death sentence. And yet, we're not treated with respect that any American should be because even as somebody incarcerated, you still have your rights. And it was seen that his his rights, which sounds like they were violated

Trenton Garmon 18:56 deprivation of the right to live in, it's a failure to discharge a duty. And I think oftentimes, you know, share in part I'll just put out there what I'm thinking is I hope that I can help educate defense lawyers, some plaintiffs lawyers, and even in some way maybe allow judges to have a different perspective of the different facets. A lot of people ask me a lot about, what about this judge? What about that judge our state has some of the best judges in the world, we have a very conservative perspective of the Constitution. But every judge is different, not based on necessarily their political party, but for the most part based on the subject matter that they bring preconceived ideologies, to the bench with and so as we process and sort out is America is free, as we say it is. What if there is modern slavery is a representation of that de facto top principle where another person's absolute Liberty rights is impaired and infringed upon to the extent that they would be considered to be was live and I argue and I still believe it to be true. And if someone again finds offense in it, they need to think about what is being said as compared to apply an improper context. But I believe mass incarceration is modern slavery. And if you look in trace Historically, the misappropriation misapplication of law regards to things like substances, and perceived behaviors, has led to unfortunately disenfranchise ment of minorities and the disenfranchisement of those who are at lower, lower socio political and economic statuses. There are, there are class systems that we as Americans have to fight against, because every human is created in the image of a god, I believe, and I think all the world religions teach that basic premise. So mass incarceration is modern slavery. And unfortunately, it goes even beyond that, in some ways, because not only does the detainee wake up and a large percentage of them again, we've talked about it on the show before we got 2.2 million detainees in the United States, arguably believe half to maybe even to third should not be there. If there's no physical victim, having someone in a cage, and if there's no financial victim, obviously, jail time is appropriate physical victim, jail time is appropriate, keep them segregated from the culture, ensure that they're not a safety threat. But we have 2.2 million people the highest per capita in the world of detainees in facilities, 100% of which are under the standards that are set out by their very own laws and policies. And here's an example where a family has deprived the right of a father and a grandfather who attempted suicide was not given any medical attention at all, but was placed back in the sale. Unfortunately, still underfed, and writing notes asking for help. That is a tragedy in that goes on more times than we would like to acknowledge as Americans. The beauty is we have a wonderful, wonderful judicial system that allows for due process in a hearing to be conducted, when it personalizes and ultimately trials that their rights have been violated. And of course, the state of Alabama has a terrible history of systematic violations because as we've talked about segment one, sometimes perspectives become radicalized. And I think radical Protestantism is a major contributor to the mass incarceration is modern slavery perspective, in large part because of the prohibition of some substances that medical doctors tell us are safe and legal. And because of the gross overreach of officer discretion that is now empowered to the police. If you think of where we are, in February of 2021. Anyone could walk down the street without their masks in be arrested on the spot by police officer, notwithstanding Dr. Fauci at one point in time, saying that mask had a negligible impact. And with the same perspective, that six feet away keeps you safe. So as a civil rights attorney, is someone that focuses on natural law, I'd encourage y'all to consider consider consider Are you in the freest country on the planet, encourage your federal government when you have interaction with them to allow the states to reassume what they are supposed to be doing and what they are in large part doing, and pray for our president. We're in some very unique times. If you have a civil rights case, we would be honored to help you you can reach us at 855 99 Trent that's 855 99 Trent. Thank you for joining us for being cut a little short just by time but we will be back with Season Two for Trenton Garmon live where your source for civil rights news and legal docket reports. Each one of these shows is uploaded as a podcast and archived at G file dot news. Join us for season two. Thank you and God.

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Trenton Garmon 0:17 Welcome one Welcome all to I Heart Radio. This is attorney Trenton, Garmin. We've got a two part show for you today talking about the COVID vaccine with Dr. Francis Co. She's a medical doctor in Alabama, who I guess has a general practice from maybe a natural medicine perspective as much as anything while embracing the pharmaceutical side of things. And she's going to share with us her perspective on vaccine pushes and the safety tests that we've got. And, of course, we're gonna be talking through civil rights news and legal docket reports as well. Dr. Koe, welcome to the show. Thank you for spending time with us and joining us today. Thank you. And so as I understand that you have a general practice in Alabama, and I guess vaccines are something that any general practitioner has administered within their offices, you know, tell us what your practice is composed of the areas of medicine that you practice, primarily. And then we'll get into some of the known and the unknowns about COVID. And the vaccines that are being pushed today.

Dr. Francis Koe 1:22 So I have a family medicine practice. I did my residency, medical school and residency in Alabama. And so I practice in northeast Alabama, in a very small town of about 900 people. So I'm the only physician in the area in my town. And I have some nurse practitioners working with me and we see newborns all the way to death. I do home visits, nursing home care, clinic care. And then we also have what we call a direct primary care clinic means yes, people just pay $50 a month and they don't have to use their insurance or if they don't have insurance, they can get some family care at $50 a month. Is there a name for that program you have there with your practice? Well, the name of my clinic is the so I have wills Valley family medicine, which is my regular insurance clinic that we have had for 13 years at since residency. And then we have Valley care DPC. And we're in the same complex, you know, we have a just a little small office there. And so both clinics are basically in the same office. Well, you're perfect for this part of the show. Because I believe that having someone look at it from a general practitioner perspective is Uber important because you're taking into consideration all the different types of ailments and issues that people have and come to you with a plan a generalized knowledge. And then of course, specialty knowledge as well. Do you vaccinate in your practice?

We used to, and for Medicaid for Medicaid children. That it was it was hard to do, because we didn't see enough to keep enough vaccine in the clinic. And so we just decided to stop several years ago, we do have some vaccines like t tap tetanus, and so we give those and tetanus shots. And we do do flu vaccines. So and we do write scripts for people who want to do pneumonia vaccines, but we also write scripts for people who want to do shingles vaccine.

Trenton Garmon 3:37 Well, we're in a crucial time, of course, in national medicine, and a lot of people want to know and I think there are some unknowns that we just have to be at peace about there's always going to be mysteries each year, there seems to be different strands that come out that evade the effectiveness if vaccines are truly overall safe and effective. So for those minds, those people that are not doctors and are curious, what what is your opinion with the new variant that's out and the two main vaccines that have been pushed in America right now? Do you think that it is safe and effective? Do you think that there are alternative methods that can be equally effective? Because I've seen where a lot of the medical community that then towards natural medicine are pushing a for vitamin solution, vitamin D, vitamin C and some some others? What are your thoughts with the two that we have out now? And what would you recommend the caller the the general audience as far as their personal choice and maybe meet with their physician and making an actual informed decision?

Dr. Francis Koe 4:38 Yes, and I want to reiterate that you are talking about COVID vaccines, correct. So So there's two vaccines, Pfizer, biome, biotech and mount Madonna. So and they're both want. The Pfizer vaccine is purported to be 95% effective and the Madonna is 94% 10 effective. So we're very, very close.

Trenton Garmon 5:01 What does that mean from a medical doctor top perspective compared to a consumer because as a product liability attorney, we do civil rights and products work. And we sued several manufacturers product device manufacturers and found that in other studies oftentimes are misleading. What is 94% effective mean? Does it mean that they detect antibodies and 94% of the people? Does it mean that you have a 94% chance of not having COVID at a subsequent time once you're vaccinated? or What does that truly mean?

Dr. Francis Koe 5:33 So it's not real clear in the literature that, you know, they give us exactly what that does mean. So. So basically, when you get a vaccine, it does not mean you will not get the disease. It reduces your risk significantly. And

Trenton Garmon 5:55 because your body if you're exposed to it has the amount of antibodies that would then fight off a true infection, or what is the

Dr. Francis Koe 6:04 Yeah. That's what they're looking at. And it takes anywhere from 14 days to three weeks or longer, and you're in one of the vaccines, you get two shots, two injections, and the other you get both of them, you actually get two injections, one is three weeks apart, and one is four weeks apart. You do not have immunity. When you first get the injection, it takes at least three weeks to show some immunity. I'm not sure if that's exact in both in both vaccines.

Trenton Garmon 6:36 And I know that's a recent concern. There was a report by NBC that a nurse had tested positive for COVID-19 despite a recent vaccination, which I think those who were pro Vax and pro big pharma were kind of shocked by says,

Dr. Francis Koe 6:49 Well, she, she got that she was tested positive for that COVID in less than seven days.

Trenton Garmon 6:54 So she needs the vaccine. Are you thinking she could have had it in advance?

Dr. Francis Koe 7:00 She could have had it in advance.

Trenton Garmon 7:01 Okay,

Dr. Francis Koe 7:02 so they've not had anybody who got COVID from the vaccine

Trenton Garmon 7:07 which is odd, because they put out that the first dose we think gives you somewhere in this was the to dose version, which I guess is that Madeira's version?

Dr. Francis Koe 7:17 They're both two dose.

Trenton Garmon 7:18 Okay, so the first dose puts you around 50% in the second dose will get you at about 95%. This is an article about

Dr. Francis Koe 7:24 Yeah.

Trenton Garmon 7:25 See, so what you're bringing up is, the safe and effective numbers were given are presuming a time period, I guess. So. a month long time period or something about that time period? Time Line wise.

Dr. Francis Koe 7:39 Yes. And and that may not be an every person. So everybody's gonna be an individual. And, you know, so the problem is we had to put these vaccines out quickly, you know, they brought them out quickly, they don't even aren't even sure how long the vaccines are last. They may last 90 days, they may last six months, they may last a year. And then they may not last, you know, we don't even know

Trenton Garmon 8:02 so 94% effective right at not contracting COVID because your body builds up immunity from that. But we don't know if that immunity last 90 days or last year. And we know that there's other strands that come out, I guess I'm just begging the question, because I'm not an anti vaxxer. But I certainly from seeing products liability work. And having the litigation door closed because of how operation warp speed work. I have got serious concerns about each one of these vaccines that have been rolled out. So what you're bringing up is, is not just hey, here's a firm number 94% effective, but you're saying you have to take into consideration each individual patient time period for the vaccines or two dose exposure or two dose administration of the vaccine. And then what else would someone take into consideration when they're making that decision? Are there two or three for a spot on conditions that you say hey, if your grandfather has this or your mother has this, she probably would more likely than not want to take the vaccine or what what's your general advice with regards to specific conditions?

Dr. Francis Koe 9:08 So I basically, anybody with CO morbid conditions, things like diabetes, hypertension, and some of those conditions that make you a greater higher risk. They would more than likely benefit from the vaccine more so possibly than somebody that has no comorbid conditions.

Trenton Garmon 9:28 Just curious, what percent of the population would you put that at comorbid conditions, these people are more likely to not benefit from the vaccine is that 20% of the general population or?

Dr. Francis Koe 9:38 I'm not saying they wouldn't benefit from the vaccine. I'm saying those who have those comorbid conditions would need the vaccine more than somebody who didn't have those

Trenton Garmon 9:49 make sense Sure,

Dr. Francis Koe 9:50 would need it more quickly. And that's why they have you know, the list of folks who are getting at first but based on their age, you know people at different ages. and so forth. So, you know, it becomes really complicated. But when they do when they say it, so this is my my take on it instead of, I mean, we can look these things up, we can get all this information from the CDC website, anybody can go and look and find out how they work, what's in each vaccine. They don't contain egg preservatives, or latex. We can find all those things out. But it's whether what I do and I choose to do in my clinic is it tell people this is your choice? You know, I can advise, but it's your choice. I don't tell people to take it. And I don't don't tell people not to if they're nervous and afraid. And I say, Well, if you feel that you would not like to get this illness in the next three to six months, then it would benefit you to take the vaccine if you've got some if you're older and you get comorbid conditions.

Trenton Garmon 11:00 Understand, do you feel like there's adequate information that's credible to provide informed consent? At this point, it doesn't sound like you're vaccinating people. But that's a concern of mine is doctors have a duty and I don't know that we can actually say they can fulfill that duty with the conflicting information we get and also the limited time that we've had available to study the disease and study the response of the people that have been backed in as part of the studies. We'll talk more in part two, we're going to go on through the FDA's recent announcement. And some articles. Thank you for joining Dr. Koe. This is Trenton Garmon iHeart Radio with Gfile news, your legal docket report and civil rights news source. Thank you for joining us. We'll be back with part two in just a moment.

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Welcome one. Welcome to part two. This attorney Trenton Garmin on I Heart Radio with your G file news bringing to you your relevant civil rights news. And legal docket reports we get four segment to the show Dr. co on with us medical doctor who learned over the break there had actually tested positive for COVID. At some point in time, Dr. Koe, thank you for joining us. Tell us a little bit about your positive test for COVID. And were you symptomatic? And what is your recommendation for those who test positive.

Dr. Francis Koe 13:11 So this was a really confusing thing that happened in our clinic. And it happened to more than just my family or my husband and I also happened to another one or two families. We I was tested in early October and I was asymptomatic. I tested positive. And then subsequently in the same week I had four negative tests, but they were different types of tests. And then two weeks later, I tested positive again, and was still asymptomatic. And that was all in October.

Trenton Garmon 13:39 So one test positive October for negatives and then another test positive and you're asymptomatic the whole time.

Dr. Francis Koe 13:47 Yes.

Trenton Garmon 13:47 And your medical doctor, this is not just you know, somebody bootlegging. COVID tests off Amazon.

Dr. Francis Koe 13:53 No, absolutely. And then the next problem came in November. We had some folks in our clinics who became positive. We all ate together. We didn't know she was positive until the day after and six others became positive, including me again.

Trenton Garmon 14:10 So not only the vaccines issue about their safety and effectiveness, we're talking about the test. I mean, you're

Dr. Francis Koe 14:15 Yeah

Trenton Garmon 14:16 you're looking at 306 FDA announced this past week for our admin docket the approval of now 306 COVID test from the ones that that you took, what's your so many it doesn't necessarily matter to wade through that. But were these all immediate within an hour based on blood? Or were they were they swab test on your nose? Or how did that?

Dr. Francis Koe 14:37 Yeah. So I had two swabs and I had one antibody test. And it may have been too early. And then I also had an instant test that we were trying and and it was the PCR test.

Trenton Garmon 14:54 Did you ever show any of the symptoms?

Dr. Francis Koe 14:57 No, not in the first month. You know, we know October when I first tested and six weeks later, after the very first positive, I tested positive again, but this time I had symptoms. And I was definitely sick.

Trenton Garmon 15:10 Okay, and you were sharing with me something that you took, I guess it was Iver-- medicine. Okay, and tell the audit so bit about that.

Dr. Francis Koe 15:21 Yeah. So we had looked at some random controlled trials on ivermectin. And so I said, you know, I'm going to try this on myself, because I had about four or five days where I felt horrible.

Trenton Garmon 15:36 I didn't even know guinea pig for your practice, right?

Dr. Francis Koe 15:39 Yeah, I, you know, wanted to see if it was gonna work. And they said within 48 hours, you know, 24, you'll start to feel better. And in 48, you feel a lot better. And it was absolutely true. And I did

Trenton Garmon 15:50 this is a medication, or is this like natural? Is this a natural substance that's under a brand name, or what type of medicine

Dr. Francis Koe 15:58 It's actually an anti parasitic medicine and it's anti inflammatory. So it actually has been used. And there's a website that you can go to to frontline COVID-19, Critical Care Alliance. And they talk about this medicine. But there's and there have been randomized controlled trials on it, comparing it and using it in in different ways. And

Trenton Garmon 16:20 for the listeners, ivermectin, you may want to ask your physician if you've tested positive for COVID. And are considering not having the vaccine or considering it. And having this been a supplemental way of treating your COVID diagnosis I V E R M E C T I N is the name of the medication.

Dr. Francis Koe 16:37 So the problem is that it's also used for horses, and there have been people who have gotten it from Tractor Supply Company. And you do not want to use that you've got to make sure you get the correct dose for your body weight. So doctors are aware of it. And but I have used it in several of my patients. And it seems to have been effective so far. So it really helped me. But we also recommend vitamin D, there's actually a protocol, which includes vitamin D, most of our vitamin D levels aren't high enough.

Trenton Garmon 17:10 Yeah, that was my next question. This study that was pushed out by the University of Virginia School of Medicine, said that they put patients on between 20,060 1000 units of vitamin D, they saw a significant decrease of the people are tested positive. And we're required to be put on a ventilator, versus those who were not following a vitamin D treatment regimen. So you're recommending, I guess, the 1000 units per pound? Is that how that works?

Dr. Francis Koe 17:38 Well, I typically tell people, most we check their levels, and depending on what their level is, I say 5000 international units or 10,000. I take 10,000 because for I work in a building a lot, and for whatever reason, I don't absorb it as well. And it takes a lot for me to get my levels up to between 40 and 60. And these are these actual or injured or not injected. No. So I'm not in a hospital setting. I'm in a you know, I'm in a clinical setting. So we just I recommend oral vitamin D to most of my patients. It's very easy to take that you can take it with kaitou which actually helps an older people to absorb it better and sometimes magnesium so somebody really struggled. You know there are recommendations along those lines. So talk to your physician Don't take my recommendations, but talk to your physician. Sure. The other thing that we recommend to people is to take zinc once they get sick I don't typically you can do that prophylactically but 50 milligrams of zinc a day and then once once somebody is sick we've been giving melatonin which is also helps with the immune system significantly

Trenton Garmon 18:51 typically for sleep Ron I guess what a lot relax your body more.

Dr. Francis Koe 18:55 Yeah, it is. We build melatonin throughout the day until at nighttime, we have a pituitary gland. And we have we give you know we develop melatonin as as the day goes on. And so this but it does help with the immune system. There's a lot of things some of our hormones do. They don't just do one thing necessarily. They do several Sure. And so melatonin has also been used. We've done that in the nursing home and with some of our patients. And then the last thing that we typically recommend or one of another thing we recommend is vitamin C.

Trenton Garmon 19:32 And that's part of this study that was done by the University of Virginia, vitamin D, vitamin C zinc, and I'm not sure how to pronounce this, but it's another vitamin qu e or C etn.

Dr. Francis Koe 19:45 Yeah, of course,

Trenton Garmon 19:46 we're certain.

Dr. Francis Koe 19:47 Yes, and we have actually given that as well to nursing home patients.

Trenton Garmon 19:51 We talked to

Dr. Francis Koe 19:53 start it comes along with the frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance FL CCC also recommends those same things including

Trenton Garmon 20:03 the frontline critical Caroline's is that a private group of physicians that are gathering information from a natural perspective? Is this a government website that puts out information or what is it?

Dr. Francis Koe 20:16 It is, It is not a government web website that I'm aware of. It's a it's I'm not exactly sure it's a group of physicians that are have done the some of the research to share. It's actually kind of a news outlet for COVID.

Trenton Garmon 20:35 Okay

Dr. Francis Koe 20:35 and some of these alternative therapies. So they actually put on their website, things like the interview that was done with Dr. Pierre Cory, in the Senate. And, you know, tell us about that people updated.

Trenton Garmon 20:56 Yeah, we were talking about that over the break. This was an interview with a physician that's talking about vaccines, and COVID.

Dr. Francis Koe 21:05 He was actually talking about ivermectin and the benefits of ivermectin that they've used over the last several months.

Trenton Garmon 21:11 So that's your recommendations ivermectin and one of these four vitamins, if not all four of them for your COVID prevention. And if someone's been diagnosed with COVID, is that correct?

Dr. Francis Koe 21:22 Yeah.

Trenton Garmon 21:22 And you brought up we did briefly, in the break there about informed consent. Do you believe at this point that, ethically speaking, a physician can give their patient informed consent? I mean, there's just a myriad of information out there, there's information discredit them, and you brought up and one month time period, you had six tests, and two were positive and four were negative. And this is not on someone else. This is on you. That, you know, you can look and evaluate yourself and kind of be your own lab rat there. But what is your your take on informed consent and the legal duty the position hasn't some of the concerns that patients probably have that their doctor and they them, he or she is the patient working through what's in their best interest. And physicians are only given information that big farm gives them big farms only give them information that they know from the clinical studies, and those have been proven time and time again, to not always be credible, or be framed up in a way that makes something look more safe and effective than it is. What do you think about informed consent? I mean, you're you're a physician, what would you say to some of the younger colleagues that you have, as they're wading through then advise on their patience?

Dr. Francis Koe 22:31 Well, you've got two issues there about testing and the vaccine. But as far as informed consent goes, you, you know, I can only give them the the information that I have. And, you know, it is they're still giving vaccine, whether we give 100% informed consent, you know, with Operation work speed, there's little, I don't know, legally, what can be done, but I tell people, you know, and they they read it on on the news some of the time, but we tell people, we don't know how well this vaccine will cover you. For the most part, there haven't been any severe. repercussions from taking it unless it's an allergic reaction. And there are always allergic reactions to things like vaccines. Long term, we don't know what the vaccine does, you know, that harms people. And in the short term, we've already seen very few allergic reactions.

Trenton Garmon 23:28 I wish we could talk for hours. It's so fun to hear different people's perspective. Dr. Koe thank you for being on with us. I'm sorry that we don't have more time to talk but I appreciate your candor and your perspective. This is attorney Trenton GarmOn with I Heart Radio and Gfile news. We thank you for joining us we'll be back. Next week, same time we will be talking through the stimulus package had Dr. Koe here. Share with us her experience with some of the COVID testing and whether truly informed consent can be obtained. If you're patient seek out the advice of your doctor and we look forward to maintaining a public interest and civil rights news flow to you in this is Trenton GarmOn hope you have a wonderful new year.

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Week 8, Part 1

Civil Rights - Systematic Voter Fraud - Presidential Election 2020 - The Machines and the Methods. 

Studio Guest - John Mountz, iHeart Special Co-Host

Week 8, Part 2

Legal Docket Report - Mass Incarceration is Modern Slavery - DOJ rightly sues Alabama over prison conditions. 

Studio Guest - John Mountz

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Sources:

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/10/944879818/justice-dept-sues-alabama-over-prison-conditions

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Trenton Garmon 0:00 If your loved one has been the victim of police brutality, contact our firm Garmin and Associates 855 99 Trent, you or your loved one may be entitled to compensation to a federal civil rights case. So again, if you are loved them have been injured as a result of police brutality, contact us Garmin and Associates 855 99 Trent legal services to be performed case where the court of legal services before my call today.

Welcome, welcome. Welcome to Trenton, Garmin live. This is a segment that I think is going to bless we the people here on iheart radio we're calling freedom of assembly. I title of course, is just drawn from principles that our nation was founded upon, which we believe are being significantly trampled on at this point in time. So it's important talk about what our founding documents say, what are we entitled to as people have a republic. And to do that I've got on the show this beautiful, beautiful day, John Mountz who's become a friend of mine, and is a very gifted and verse man. JOHN, welcome, welcome. Welcome to the show.

John Mountz 1:34 Thanks, friend. Thanks for having me.

Trenton Garmon 1:35 Let's just launch right in, I want to read the first amendment. And we can talk about some of the new releases that have been put out by the administration and NPR and The Washington Post, and CNN reports about something that is significant, that I don't think we're hearing a lot of chatter about the fact that for a presidential inauguration, the number one place intended by our great Republic, for the freedom of assembly being the National Mall was closed. That to me, is just absolutely mind boggling that we the people are not allowed to peacefully assemble. And it's just presumed because of the great show to not the cause for concern. But our First Amendment very clearly lays out, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of the press or speech and the right of the people to peacefully assemble, and to petition the government for redress. So Gentlemen, I bring that up, just as a topic from the beautiful, beautiful founding documents that we have as arguably the most prosperous nation. I mean, there's some things we could talk through that may have other economists be honored to say, yeah, these other countries may be less prosperous or more so but we're clearly a great nation. And we have a greatest military, which was used that the direction of obviously gets the Trump administration and then the Biden ministration. So we hope, you know, I don't know if Trump agreed to have a national law clothes or not. But, john, what are your thoughts after hearing that first amendment language, read the right people to peacefully assemble is something that Congress shall make no law. And there should be no branch of government that impairs that right of way that people? What do you think about that when cnn puts out the national malls close through the inauguration? This was put out, way back January the 15th. Not too far back with about a week plus ago. So what are your thoughts with that? And and as a member of way, the people, does that cause you concern?

John Mountz 4:09 Well, Trenton it definitely does. But I look at it a little differently, because I don't see it as a constitutional issue per se, because the first words in there a Congress shall make no law. So it wasn't a congressional thing. My understanding was it was the Capitol Police that closed the mall. And it's not unusual for the Capitol Police to close the mall for any number of things. But it is a very disappointing time in our country's history that we can't gather to see the inauguration. Should you want to go see the inauguration of the President also in there in the First Amendment keeping with the spirit. There's the part about not abridging the people's ability to peaceably, you know, assembled for aggressive grievances. So, the people weren't able to protest. And if you look back look at what happened say just four years prior at Donald Trump's inauguration, people protested. People have been protesting the inauguration of the president Every time there's been an inauguration, so I have a real problem with them coming out and saying that the Capitol Police saying we're not going to allow this. And it was based on suspicion of what because I don't nothing materialized, and I don't think anything was going to

Trenton Garmon 5:14 materialize. So you think it's not a good site execution by the executive branch of what's the intent of the Constitution? And so you'd say you think there's an impairment of the way the people's right so simple there, is that right?

John Mountz 5:27 Absolutely. I think that and the thing is, I spent a long time I lived for about five years in Washington, DC, I spent a lot of time there, you know, running around playing on the Mall. And I've been since as an adult, and more and more they made it to where you can't hardly go on the mall for anything. They put up chains and stuff, and they don't hardly let you on the mall at all. And you know, if you think about it, it's our dollars, our tax dollars paying for all of that, at very least the upkeep. But really the whole of Washington DC, you think we could go if the Smithsonian is open for free, and for people to walk around for free? Let us walk around the mall, you know, if they sworn in, keep the president safe. And let us come to the mall and see if we should so desire to do it like every other administration.

Trenton Garmon 6:11 So we've had a major transfer of power here, obviously the office of the president, he is the commander in chief commands of the greatest military on the face of the planet. And we've had at each one of the state capitals indisputable, and we're violating the principle of the First Amendment, the freedom of assembly to peacefully assemble. We've had every state capitol for the day of the inauguration, have shut down the public grounds. And of course, here the National Mall zoo, the conversation topic today. And order, which is considered to be an executive order by the DC police understand it's the District of Columbia police department, but they're still part of the executive branch. We I guess we're coming to the conclusion that both you and I will leave collectively here is to have we the people that there was a bad sight infringement by the Washington DC police department and shut down those grounds in it, in my mind shows you that obviously, the higher echelon executives within the executive branch, if you will, they did disagree. You know, you didn't see anything come out that the senator took that perspective and has said are pure right to freely assemble has been impaired. I didn't see not one article. I'm sure there are people that made this spoke out against it. So that to me is a major concern. And I do think that the shift in how the presidency came as far as certification Abaddon, to the point of being considered legitimate is still a concern for way to people. I don't anticipate any kind of subsequent actions being filed. But john, do you know of any of the cases that Trump's legal team filed that had any actual discovery? Because the 75 million people that voted for Trump and wanted him to be in office? were the ones that were more likely than not? Won't the gather, right, and we had the right to January 7, which springs up other areas of law? And, you know, question as to should the President be impeached for using the term wild said it's gonna be wild, but there was really nothing that he said that could be interpreted, I don't think in good faith to encourage violence. So what are your thoughts with it, john, we transfer from we've got an ultra conservative with a Gar Salas, President, we have now an ultra liberal, unfortunately, he's Catholic, which is not an unfortunate thing. I'm Catholic, but he's claiming to have the Catholic Church's backing and yet he is adverse to the very thing that the fabric of Catholicism, I think is a pro life agenda. And he is most definitely opposed to any pro opposition's and ism as part of this transfer of power. Not only assume the nation's greatest military, but I think he's assuming the nation's greatest, unfortunately, genocide machine, which is the leadership of and funding of groups like Planned Parenthood, given them the thumbs up or thumbs down, he's not going to be on their board and not having contact with them directly to make decisions. But am I wrong to say that we have a president now after this kind of transfer of power still in dispute, that you think is going to stand against the funding of abortion, john, or what's your perspective with our president, we the taxpayers who did not have the right to assemble, who in all 50 states were told not to go to the Capitol, who were told Don't worry about this transfer of power and the election certification, even though there's been no legal discovery done. There has not been any examination of the evidence by someone that does not work for the government right to get the secretary of state that are certified on it, but you haven't had any way that people private independent file suit must conduct discovery. Let's take these machines. I'm a software expert engineer, look at that. So this transfer of power now involves the handing over of the keys or the purse strings, if you will, to the Department of Treasury and to the funding of what's the genocide, I mean, we don't want to talk about this issue many times. But America has blood in its soil, the blood of 60 months, 60 million plus babies. And here we see what I think to be major areas of constitutional concern. And I wouldn't feel any way ashamed to jump up and argue and say that we don't really even have a fully functioning country right now. So that kind of malformed transfer of power, and a freedom of assembly shut down DC police spot on with it, or the executive branch and paired that right. No one from the actual federal executive branch did anything to allow for the National Mall and these other public grounds to be accessed for the purpose of We the People demonstrating there was a question as to whether it was really a winning proper certification for Biden. What are your thoughts with his changes on the pro life? Do you think we're gonna see a continued Biden perspective as he's had in the past? And you know, we've got about a minute or two here, or do you think that we see any hope of, of change from what I understand executive orders he's already issued are going to be forcing us to pay for abortion. So we'll talk more about that. And we'll get back to here the user can chime in. So we're going to pad out to a commercial thank y'all for joining us. This is Trenton Gorham with Trenton, Garmin live. In segment two, we'll be talking a little bit more about the inauguration, freedom of assembly and your constitutional rights. This is Trenton Garmin I Heart Radio bringing to your civil rights news and legal document reports.

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Welcome, welcome. Welcome back to Trenton Gorman, laughter on our heart radio. We thank you for joining us for part two of our segment on freedom of assembly, the freedom of assembly that we the people have the right to expect of our government and the most recent concerns with the most powerful nation on the planet and the chair the seat, if you will, as commander in chief, I haven't been transferred with all the questions about the election. And I know, well, big media doesn't like the fact that we the people still challenge the big government, liberal elites if you will. But the reality is, the voices of the people through their bodily presence bringing their corpus to the National Mall and to the state capitals was denied by the DC police operating at the approval. Clearly de facto approval of the executive branch. I'm kind of surprised that Trump didn't make much of an issue of it before he left office but at the same time, it shows you how far we've gone from natural law and neighborly love and that's intent of our show is to inform way the people and courses as well as an attorney if you need help with a civil rights action or if you're facing some type of hospital lane something related to treatment. Garmin and Associates is a civil rights and injury firm and we would be honored to help you. You can contact us at 855 99 Trent that's 855 99 Trent call today. JOHN, thank you for joining me again here for part two, as we talked about this freedom of assembly, we kind of ended up switching back to the transition of power and what you're seeing as far as a major difference in philosophy. And Trump was gathering 1000s upon 1000s of people. And I did not do not necessarily support drop on the libertarian. But point is, we did see a major shift and I see corn unnatural, awesome things of concern. You and I both share that we think it's unconstitutional for I believe the National Mall to be close, then we kind of got into pro life issues and the, I believe, Mark, on our nation that we have turned from the founding principles when we were allowing infanticide. President, as he sits now, Joseph Biden is for partial birth abortion. So I know that that's a touchy topic for a lot of people. But we see some executive orders already been issued. And I think there's more to come where we the people will be funding, there will be taxpayer funded procedures, and it's going to be forcing nurses and medical professionals into a position where they have to make a decision as to whether they're going to lose her job, for not cooperating with an abortion to be some own spot procedures that have to be done. So john, is that concern? You? I mean, we see both sides, I will have to back up Biden with regards to immigration. I think he fully understands that that is a federal issue and that our founders by no means intended to make it legalistic and impossible, pragmatically speaking for people to come into the country. But what are your thoughts not just on the freedom of assembly, but what this administration is probably going to, to be taken posture wise with regards to life in the womb,

John Mountz 17:00 print and there's a guy you probably heard of him Saul Alinsky. And he wrote this book called Rules for Radicals. And one of the Rules for Radicals was to never let a crisis go to waste. And I think it's very interesting. We can say whether or not that the riots on Capitol Hill if they were organic in nature, or if they were somewhat planned, but regardless, it created a crisis. And the crisis was, you know, the situation Oh, my gosh, the nation's capital is under siege. And so I think immediately some on the left with an agenda said this, we will seize this, and we will use it to forward the agenda. So the agenda became to paint a picture. And the picture became, oh, okay, the capital is under siege. It's like a third world country, because of the President. That's the picture. They wanted to paint. So they wanted to make it a peaceful transition of power. Right. And so they wanted to make this statement that, look how bad the situation the nation is in it's all Donald Trump's fault. And so we have to make take all these extreme measures, you look at all these troops that they that they brought in there.

Trenton Garmon 18:05 Anybody stir something up? I think Donald Trump was probably top of the list. But yeah, for sure, there was a crisis and there was a seizing of the of the moment of the opportunities by the Democratic Party to make it look like a peaceful transfer without any infringements that were undo or not able to be justified. So yeah, I agree, man, keep on tell me what you think was solinsky. So you're saying they're executing on this playbook, the elite radical left, and there's good people I grew up, yell about Democrat, have voted Republican and I'm a libertarian. But this two party system is something of major concern. I think, and I do believe that we have probably, we're at a state in time where this is kind of the de facto martial law, or you might want to call it a third world war that's not been declared. It's got to be more than a pandemic, when that level of encroachment is just adopted, and not considered to be something that is worth public outcry. And then when the public outcry does occur, that is worth taking even more not to because it's being suppressed. It's a form of gerrymandering, if you will, where we the people cannot go to the National Mall in these other places and has to fund abortion and have to have our rights be strictly scrutinized continuously. overreaching and overstaffed police force, I see so many things with concern that just really jumped out at me. To your point with the with the Rules for Radicals because I think people could say, john, both I think they could say that the radical right does the same thing. Did Did you think that the intent of those who were assembling was really to take over take hostage some of the people that were all All makers and leaders that they believe had infringe on the rights because without naming names, there were service members that were in a form of a uniform that were there. And how do you deal with those people if they really had a defense, which they could, in good faith that they believed that the country was under siege, and they were being obedient to their executive commanding officer, and of some of these prior military people? What are your thoughts on that? I mean, are we? Are we seeing the peaceful assembly be disrupted by the plan of one side or the other? Or you brought up the word organic? Or was all that just organic? Tell me what you think?

John Mountz 20:43 I don't I think we're, the mistake is treating the writers as if they were a monolith as if they were all the same, because they weren't. You had several factions at a you know, at work there, you had the large, the vast majority of people who were Trump supporters who went there, because we're going to go to the mall, and we're going to show up and show how much we support our president. And that was pretty much full assembly, peaceful assembly, and those were for sure, most weapons, and most of those people were there to peacefully assemble like you saw those people. If you watch any the video where they just think they walked in, they shouldn't have been in the Capitol, but they just walked through, they didn't disturb anything. They just walked through and walked on through and walk back out again, like they were on, you know, touring. But then there were other people, the guy, you know, you saw the guy with the gigantic horns on his head and the paint all over himself. Now, it's been proven that he was from some radical, crazy, extremist, wacko group. I don't know what his intent was even like the guys that showed up with the with the wristband things I don't know what their intent was, if they actually thought they were going to get away with it. But clearly, they weren't going to actually take control of the Congress, no matter what their idea was, there was that was gonna get shut down. And the majority of people who were there meant nothing meant no disrespect, meant nothing was going to happen. There was a very tiny, and then there was even another tiny fraction of people, people from outside groups who wanted to make it look as bad as possible. We are talking about people from groups like an Tifa, you're gonna find I believe it will come out the other groups were their prime artists, exactly. Like how is it that they tried to make this thing look just like the riots in Minneapolis, just like the riots in Kenosha, it's like the same people showed up. The lawmakers can address it if they really want to see America restored to a representative nation, these

Trenton Garmon 22:28 PACs are the problem. As far as how the radical political frame artists get their funding, they literally push hundreds of 1000s even millions of dollars through these PACs, and then days leading up to elections and days leading up to events like this, or top of election based folks get sent out. This is not like speculation. This is something that FBI CIA, if anybody has studied from the intelligence agency, how these PACs and some of the radical people work. That's how that that funding occurs. And it is true, I think we've seen it over. I think there's a major overcorrection that we the people need to be mindful of as we see a bad administration and have four years of a radical agenda. And I'm sorry, I consider Joe Biden to be even more radical than what some people would have considered Trump to be, in large part because he's almost like a political schizophrenic. I mean, the guy is a Catholic cradle Catholic, but you look at his agendas. We have had a man who dresses up like a woman that just happens to be brilliant. I mean, yeah, the Assistant health secretaries, is a position that is not of eminent importance and primary importance, but it's certainly an important one. So we see the transgender agenda already pushed by the by the administration. So yeah, john, I think here, you know, with the peaceful assembly, I think you're right and radical agendas and how to not allow crisis to be wasted is what they seized on. And I believe that we're only seeing the beginning of some of the moves that are going to be made, taking advantage of the pandemic, which is a whole different topic and discussion point. Again, this is transam Garmin with our heart radio, if you have a civil rights issue related to police brutality, or if a family member of yours or a loved one has been discriminated against in employment, any type of civil rights infringement, we would be honored to help you with that. I'm with Gorman and Associates were civil rights and injury firm. You can contact us at 855 99 Trent 855 99 Trent, thank you all for joining us. We'll be back next week. Thank you, john, for joining me, boss.

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Phone Guest - Dr. Francis Koe 

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Week 10, Part 2 -

Legal Docket & Admin Report - FDA Announces Vaccine Approvals and COVID medical products approval 

Phone Guest - Dr. Francis Koe

Call to Action - Text or Call 855-998-7368

Sources:

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-december-28-2020

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-december-22-2020

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Trenton Garmon Welcome one Welcome all to I Heart Radio. This is attorney Trenton Garmon, we've got a two part show for you today talking about the COVID vaccine with Dr. Francis Koe. She's a medical doctor in Alabama, who I guess has a general practice from maybe a natural medicine perspective as much as anything while embracing the pharmaceutical side of things. And she's going to share with us her perspective on vaccine pushes in the safety tests that we've got. And, of course, we're gonna be talking through civil rights news and legal docket reports as well. Dr. Koe, welcome to the show. Thank you for spending time with us and joining us today.

Dr. Francis Koe 1:27 Thank you.

Trenton Garmon 1:28 And so as I understand it, you have a general practice in Alabama. And I guess vaccines are something that any general practitioner has administered within their offices, you know, tell us what your practice is composed of the areas of medicine that you practice, primarily. And then we'll get into some of the known and the unknowns about COVID. And the vaccines that are being pushed today.

Dr. Francis Koe 1:51 So I have a family medicine practice. I did my residency, medical school and residency in Alabama. And so I practice in northeast Alabama, in a very small town of about 900 people. So I'm the only physician in the area in my town. And I have some nurse practitioners working with me and we see newborns all the way to death. I do home visits, nursing home care, clinic care. And then we also have what we call a direct primary care clinic means yes, people just pay $50 a month and they don't have to use their insurance or if they don't have insurance. They can get some family care at $50 a month.

Trenton Garmon 2:35 Is there a name for that program you have there with your practice?

Dr. Francis Koe 2:38 Well, the name of my clinic is the so I have wills Valley family medicine, which is my regular insurance clinic that we have had for 13 years at since residency. And then we have Valley care DPC. And we're in the same complex, you know, we have a just a little small office there. And so both clinics so basically in the same office, well, you're perfect for this part of the show, because I believe that having someone look at it from a general practitioner perspective is Uber important because you're taking into consideration all the different types of ailments and issues that people have and come to you with a plan a generalized knowledge. And then of course, specialty knowledge as well. Do you vaccinate in your practice? We used to and for Medicaid for Medicaid children. That it was it was hard to do, because we didn't see enough to keep enough vaccine in the clinic. And so we just decided to stop several years ago, we do have some vaccines like t dhap. tetanus, and so we give those and tetanus shots. And we do do flu vaccines. So and we do write scripts for people who want to do pneumonia vaccines, but we also write scripts for people who want to do shingles vaccines?

Trenton Garmon 4:06 Well, we're in a crucial time, of course in national medicine, and a lot of people want to know and I think there are some unknowns that we just have to be at peace about there's always going to be mysteries each year, there seems to be different strands that come out that evade the effectiveness if vaccines are truly overall safe and effective. So for those minds, those people that are not doctors and are curious, what is your opinion with the new variant that's out and the two main vaccines that have been pushed in America right now? Do you think that it is safe and effective? Do you think that there are alternative methods that can be equally effective because I've seen where a lot of the medical community that then towards natural medicine are pushing a four vitamin solution vitamin D, vitamin C and some some others? What are your thoughts with the two that we have out now and what would you recommend the caller the the general audience As far as their personal choice and maybe meeting with their physician and making an actual informed decision.

Dr. Francis Koe 5:07 Yes. And I want to reiterate that you are talking about COVID vaccines? Correct. So, so there's two vaccines, Pfizer, biome, biotech and Madonna. So and they're both want. The Pfizer vaccine is purported to be 95% effective. And the Madonna is 94% effective. So they're very, very close.

Trenton Garmon 5:30 What does that mean, from a medical doctor top perspective compared to a consumer, because as a product liability attorney, we do civil rights and products work. And we've sued several manufacturers, product device manufacturers and found that, you know, their studies oftentimes are misleading. What does 94% effective mean? Does it mean that they detect antibodies and 94% of the people? Does it mean that you have a 94% chance of not having COVID? at a subsequent time? What's your backside? or What does that truly mean?

Dr. Francis Koe 6:01 So it's not real clear in the literature that, you know, they give us exactly what that does mean. So. So basically, when you get a vaccine, it does not mean you will not get the disease. It reduces your risk significantly. And because your body

Trenton Garmon 6:24 if you're exposed to it has the amount of antibodies that would then fight off a true infection, or what is the

Dr. Francis Koe 6:32 Yeah. So that that's what they're looking at. And it takes anywhere from 14 days to three weeks or longer. And you're in one of the vaccines, you get two shots, two injections, and the other you get both of you actually get two injections, one is three weeks apart, and one is four weeks apart. You do not have immunity. When you first get the injection, it takes at least three weeks to show some immunity. I'm not sure if that's exact in both in both vaccines.

Trenton Garmon 7:05 concern there was a report by NBC that a nurse had tested positive for COVID-19 despite a recent vaccination, which I think those who were pro Vax and pro big farm were kind of shocked by says that

Dr. Francis Koe 7:18 she got that she was tested positive for that COVID in less than seven days. So she

Trenton Garmon 7:24 responds to the vaccine. Are you thinking she could have had it in advance?

Dr. Francis Koe 7:28 She could have had it in advance. Okay, so they've not had anybody who got COVID from the vaccine, which is odd, because they put out

Trenton Garmon 7:38 that the first dose we think gives you somewhere and this is the to DOS version, which I guess is that Madeira's version?

Dr. Francis Koe 7:45 They're both to dos. Okay,

Trenton Garmon 7:47 so the first dose puts you around 50%, in the second dose will get you at about 95%. This is an article about Yeah, and B. C. So what you're bringing up is, the safe and effective numbers were given are presuming a time period, I guess. So a month long time period or something about that time period? timeline wise.

Dr. Francis Koe 8:07 Yes. And and that may not be in every person. So everybody's going to be an individual. And, you know, so the problem is we had to put these vaccines out quickly, you know, they brought them out quickly. They don't even aren't even sure how long the vaccines are last. They may last 90 days, they may last six months, they may last a year. And then they may not last, you know, we don't even know so

Trenton Garmon 8:31 90% effective right at not contracting COVID because your body builds up immunity from that. But we don't know if that immunity last 90 days or last year. And we know that there's other strands that come out I guess I'm just begging the question, because I'm not an anti vaxxer. But I certainly from seeing products liability work, and have them to litigation door closed because of how operation warp speed work. I have got serious concerns about each one of these vaccines that have been rolled out. So what you're bringing up is is not just hey, here's a firm number 94% effective, but you're saying you have to take into consideration each individual patient time period for the vaccines, a two dose exposure or two dose administration of the vaccine. And then what else would someone take into consideration when they're making that decision? Are there two or three four spadoni conditions that you say hey, if your grandfather has this or your mother has this, you probably would more likely than not want to take the vaccine or what's your general advice with regards to specific conditions?

Dr. Francis Koe 9:36 So I basically anybody with CO morbid conditions, things like diabetes, hypertension, and some of those conditions that make you at a greater higher risk. They would more than likely benefit from the vaccine more so possibly than somebody that has no comorbid conditions.

Trenton Garmon 9:56 Just curious what percent of the population would you put that at komori conditions, these people are more likely to not benefit from the vaccine is that 20% of the general population? Or?

Dr. Francis Koe 10:06 I'm not saying they wouldn't benefit from the vaccine, I'm saying those who have those comorbid conditions would need the vaccine more than somebody who didn't have those Make sense? Sure, wouldn't need it more quickly. And that's why they have a, you know, the list of folks who are getting it first based on their age, you know, people at different ages and so forth. So, you know, it becomes really complicated. But when they do when they say, so this is my, my take on it instead of, I mean, we can look these things up, we can get all this information from the CDC website, anybody can go and look and find out how they work, what's in each vaccine. They don't contain egg preservatives, or latex. We can find all those things out. But it's whether what I do and I choose to do in my clinic, is it tell people this is your choice? You know, I can advise, but it's your choice. I don't tell people to take it. And I don't don't tell people not to if they're nervous and afraid. And I say, Well, if you feel that you would not like to get this illness in the next three to six months. And it would benefit you to take the vaccine, if you've got some if you're older, and you've got comorbid conditions.

Trenton Garmon 11:29 Do you feel like there's adequate information that's credible to provide informed consent. And at this point, it doesn't sound like you're vaccinating people, but that's a concern of minors. Doctors have a duty and I don't know that we can actually say they can fulfill that duty with the conflicting information we got and also the limited time that we've had available to study the disease and study the response of the people that have been backed in as part of the studies. We'll talk more in part two, we're going to go on through the FDA recent announcement and some articles. Thank you for joining us Dr. Kolb. This is Trenton Garmin I Heart Radio with G found lose your legal docket report on civil rights news source. Thank you for joining us. We'll be back with part two in just a moment.

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welcome one. Welcome to part two. This attorney Trenton Garmin on I Heart Radio with your G file news bringing to you your relevant civil rights news. And legal docket reports we get four segment to the show Dr. Ko on with us a medical doctor who learned over the break there had actually tested positive for COVID at some point in time, Dr. Koh, thank you for joining us. Tell us a little bit about your positive tests for COVID. And were you symptomatic? And what is your recommendation for those who test positive.

Dr. Francis Koe 13:40 So this was a really confusing thing that happened in our clinic. And it happened to more than just my family or my husband and I also happen to another one or two family. We I was tested in early October and I was asymptomatic. I tested positive. And then subsequently in the same week I had four negative tests, but they were different types of tests. And then two weeks later, I tested positive again and was still asymptomatic. And that was all in October.

Trenton Garmon 14:10 One test positive October for negatives and then another test positive and you're asymptomatic the whole time. Yes. And your medical doctor. This is not just you know, somebody bootlegging. COVID tests off Amazon.

Dr. Francis Koe 14:23 No, absolutely. And then the next problem came in November. We had some folks in our clinics who became positive. We all ate together. We didn't know she was positive until the day after and six others became positive, including me again.

Trenton Garmon 14:40 So not only the vaccines issue about their safety and effectiveness, we're talking about the test and you're Yeah, you're looking at 306 FDA announced this past week for our admin docket the approval of now 306 COVID test from the ones that you took what's your so many it doesn't necessarily matter to wade through that but Were these all immediate within an hour based on blood? Or were they were they swab test on your nose? Or how did that? Yeah.

Dr. Francis Koe 15:08 So I had two swabs, and I had one antibody test. And it may have been too early. And then I also had an instant test that we were trying. And and it was the PCR test.

Trenton Garmon 15:24 Did you ever show any of the symptoms?

Dr. Francis Koe 15:26 No, not in the first month, you know, in October when I first tested and six weeks later, after the very first positive, I tested positive again, but this time I had symptoms. And I was definitely sick.

Trenton Garmon 15:40 Okay, and you were sharing with me something that you took, I guess it was ever met. Okay, and tell the audience a little bit about that.

Dr. Francis Koe 15:51 Yeah. So we had looked at some random controlled trials on ivermectin. And so I said, you know, I'm going to try this on myself, because I had about four or five days where I felt horrible.

Trenton Garmon 16:06 I didn't even know guinea pig for your practice, right?

Dr. Francis Koe 16:09 Yeah, I, you know, wanted to see if it was gonna work. And they said within 48 hours, you know, 24 you'll start to feel better and in 48 you feel a lot better and it was absolutely true that I did

Trenton Garmon 16:20 this or is this like natural? Is this a natural substance that's under a brand name.

Dr. Francis Koe 16:28 It's actually an anti parasitic medicine and it's anti inflammatory. So it actually has been used and there's a website that you can go to to frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance. And they hope that there's attorneys out there.

Trenton Garmon 16:50 listeners to the show, Dr. Ko on with us about how the vaccine we're considering learning over the break their way of actually tested positive over diagnosed. Again joining us, tell us a little bit about your positive test.

Dr. Francis Koe 17:10 And there have been people who have died and you do not want to be really confusing. My family or my husband and I talked to her way rather

we asymptomatic so far and and really eloquently. And they We also recommend my favorite types of data, which includes vitamin D weeks later, on the level again I enough in October,

Trenton Garmon 17:45 when test positive October 4 2016. Yes, austere medical, and COVID

versus those who

Dr. Francis Koe 18:00 came in November regimen. So your folks in our clinic we all ate together. We didn't know she was positive.

Most positive and depending on what their level is I say 5000. For a lot for me to get my levels up.

Trenton Garmon 18:29 She took

Unknown Speaker 18:34 these all

Dr. Francis Koe 18:38 a clinical setting. So I recommend oral vitamin D Yeah. To most patients, these swabs and a two which is equal to absorb and I also have struggled and there are no fine. Talk to your physician PCR cam Don't take my position. Sure. Not in the clergyman Two months later, that prophylactic very first positive today and but this time I had and and I was like once somebody melatonin took which is also the immune segments

Trenton Garmon 19:21 typically relax your body more.

Dr. Francis Koe 19:25 Yes, it is. Yeah, we build melatonin today until to have and so you know, we know I'm going to try

and make a lot of things you know, within hours in a 24 hour trend some of our patients the last thing that we

A brand new thing we recommended. And that's actually an anti parasitic medicine and it's anti inflammatory. It actually has been used and there's a website that you can go to frontline COVID-19. Critical Care Alliance. Yeah. Comparing it in different ways and COVID mission critical Caroline's also

Trenton Garmon 20:34 treating carillons diagnosis, obviously gathering information from a natural

Dr. Francis Koe 20:42 problem is that selfish horses and there have been people who have gotten it is not a government when I found things like that I'm aware of not one. Make sure you get the wrong notes for your body weight. exactly sure whether this is done the research I have used it in Asia actually kind of a new man. So far, so alternative, but we all say recommend vitamin D protocol. So most of our 11,016

Trenton Garmon 21:26 significant

tested positive emotion and will require the vaccine versus those who were not

Dr. Francis Koe 21:34 following about he was actually talking about ivermectin recommended.

Trenton Garmon 21:41 Recommendations ivermectin. Well,

Dr. Francis Koe 21:43 I typically tell people, we check their levels. And depending on what their level is, I'd say 5000 international units, or 10,000. Yeah, I refer, I'm working a lot. And for whatever reason, I don't absorb it, it takes a lot for me to get my levels.

Trenton Garmon 22:06 out there. There's this credit, I mean, you brought up that time period you had vitamin D.

Unknown Speaker 22:16 Tonight, you can look and evaluate.

Dr. Francis Koe 22:20 You can take it with Katie actually helps. A bit better, and sometimes magnesium has somebody really patient.

Trenton Garmon 22:30 So talk to your physician, he is my recommendation.

Dr. Francis Koe 22:35 Sure. The other thing I don't typically you can do that. Proven.

Trenton Garmon 22:44 Today not always be credited for

Dr. Francis Koe 22:49 giving melatonin

Trenton Garmon 22:51 What do you think about your position to significantly younger college? advising their patients?

Dr. Francis Koe 22:59 Yes, it is. We believe that when we give it you know, we know I cannot give them yet. And I have the day goes on and and so they're still in the weather. They don't know what he wants. He's there for a little I don't know. But I tell them that in the nursing home, you know, and they read the patient news some of the time and we laughing we don't know what else this vaccine recommended by them. And for the most part, there hasn't been any severe stuff done by the universe repercussions from taking it unless it's an allergic reaction and there are allergic reaction. Things like that. Long term, we don't know where that we have actually given that short child. Very allergic reaction.

Unknown Speaker 23:58 I wish we could talk for

Dr. Francis Koe 24:01 COVID-19 purple Caroline, recommend those same thing, including

Trenton Garmon 24:07 you're the frontline commander and you're returning Garmin with a heart radio gathered. Thank you for joining us next week saying we've been talking through the stimulus package government with COVID testing.

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Dr. Francis Koe 24:29 seeking not exactly a group of physicians that are have done some of the research in civil rights and they're kind of a news

Trenton Garmon 24:37 outlet COVID wonderful

Dr. Francis Koe 24:41 alternative therapies. So they actually put on their website things like to interview that was done with Dr. Pierre Cory in the Senate and you know, People updated. Yeah, we

Trenton Garmon 25:01 were talking about that over the break. This is an interview with a physician that's talking about vaccines

Dr. Francis Koe 25:08 and COVID. He was actually talking about ivermectin and the benefits of ivermectin that they've used over the last several months.

Trenton Garmon 25:15 So that's your recommendations ivermectin and one of these four vitamins, if not all four of them for COVID prevention. And if someone's been diagnosed with COVID, is that correct? Yeah. And you brought up we did briefly, in the break there about informed consent. Do you believe at this point that, ethically speaking, a physician can give their patient informed consent? I mean, there's just a myriad of information out there, there's information discredit them, and you brought up in one month time period, you had six tests, and two were positive and four were negative. And this is not on someone else. This is on you. That, you know, you can look and evaluate yourself and kind of be your own lab right there. But what is your your take on informed consent in the legal duty, the physician has some of the concerns that patients probably have that their doctor and they them, he or she is the patient working through what's in their best interest. And physicians are only given information that big farm gives them big farms on giving information that they know from the clinical studies, and those have been proven time and time again, to not always be credible, or be framed up in a way that makes something look more safe and effective than it is. What do you think about informed consent? I mean, you're you're a physician, what would you say to some of the younger colleagues that you have, as they're wading through it and advise on their patience?

Dr. Francis Koe 26:35 Well, you've got two issues there about testing and the vaccine. But as far as informed consent goes, you, you know, I can only give them the the information that I have. And, you know, it is they're still giving vaccine, whether we give 100% informed consent, you know, with Operation work speed, there's little, I don't know, legally, what can be done, but I tell people, you know, and they they read it on on the news some of the time, but we tell people, we don't know how well this vaccine will cover you. For the most part, there haven't been any severe. repercussions from taking it unless it's an allergic reaction. And there are always allergic reactions to things like vaccines. Long term, we don't know what the vaccine does, you know, that harms people. In the short term we've always seen very few allergic reactions.

Trenton Garmon 27:33 I wish we could talk for hours. It's so fun to hear different people's perspective. Dr. Koh thank you for being on with us. I'm sorry that we don't have more time to talk but I appreciate your candor and your perspective. This is attorney Trenton Garmin with I Heart Radio and G file news. We thank you for joining us we'll be back. Next week, same time we will be talking through the stimulus package had Dr. Koh here, share with us her experience with some of the COVID testing and whether truly informed consent can be obtained. If your patient seek out the advice of your doctor. And we look forward to maintaining a public interest and civil rights news flow to you in this is Trenton Garman hope you have a wonderful new year.

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Trenton Garmon Welcome one Welcome all to I Heart Radio. This is Trenton, Garmon, bringing to you g file news. We are your source for civil rights news. And legal docket reports. We're bringing to you credible information cases that involve encroachment on your civil rights or abuses by big government abuses by big insurance. Got a special guest today by phone mazing attorney, an associate of mine that I'm honored to know named Daniel Lewis. Daniel, welcome to today's show. It's good to have you on.

Daniel Lewis 1:23 I think you drink Good to be here, man.

Trenton Garmon 1:25 Well, tell me there's been some information that the FDA has pushed out, I see where there is a July 27 of 2020 letter that I guess the pronounciation is Penumbra. Is that the name of the company? Is that how you said?

Daniel Lewis 1:40 Correct? Yeah, that's a medical device company.

Trenton Garmon 1:43 So they issued a letter, I guess in July. And then as of December the 15th. Tell us kind of what has transpired with regard to that company. And I believe it's at least two, maybe three of their products.

Daniel Lewis 1:58 Sure. So in July, the number makes a catheter called the jet seven extra flags. And the FDA asked for pin number to voluntarily removed the catheter because of 14 reports of deaths, and then another 190 or so what they call adverse events. So this is a cash

Trenton Garmon 2:24 surgeon would m would use as a tool for stroke victims, is that correct?

Daniel Lewis 2:30 That's correct. Okay. So, right, and the FDA, they have databases for medical devices, pharmaceutical products, all of these that track these adverse events and bad things that happen. And that's how that's how the agency would learn about it. So even though the catheter is voluntarily removed, well, the question becomes, okay, how did we get here? Sure. And one of one of the indicators we're seeing about that is there the there's a hedge fund called quintessential Capital Management, that has has shorted the stock, which is to say they, they sold shares of the number they don't own. And it's a risky technique unless you know, that something is amiss with the company. So for those who are the victim of a number of

Trenton Garmon 3:22 jet seven catheter injury, you send that have a claim against the number and also against equitable, equitable company or the equity.

Daniel Lewis 3:32 It's looking rather, it looks like they would have a claim against the number and the equity companies actions just bolster the strength of that claim. Okay.

Trenton Garmon 3:42 And is that in regards, because I'm not sure what all the FDA has put out there. But as I understand it, not every safety study the company purports to have reached and the results are of the credible clinical findings is always trustworthy. Is that something that's been at issue here? That's public information? Or do we know because I can see where there'd be funding? I could see where there would be the, you know, product manufacturer clearly having responsibility, but I can't see the tie unless there's something else as far as marketing goes. What are your thoughts with that?

Daniel Lewis 4:16 So? Yeah, so as far as marketing goes, transparency is a big thing with with any sort of medical device. And the allegations we're seeing against the number of is that a doctor on both amti k blsa. was just created totally fake Dr. Fake social media profile with fancy cars fancy homes. He was created to be this purported author of scientific research for Penumbra and he doesn't exist.

Trenton Garmon 4:48 Do we know who returned time was the number that that made up this site? This is a doctor who came to this conclusion that they're going to for the purpose of the public's eye, this is our doctor. We've got in places fictional. Who did the numbers people make that decision? Or is that something was put out falsely by the equitable company?

Daniel Lewis 5:09 No. So it's looking like so the equity company is actually who brought attention to this. So it's looking like Penumbra created this doctor to put out scientific research that makes its medical device look safe.

Trenton Garmon 5:24 that's relevant to the general public, because here we have people that have a propensity and a likelihood have a stroke. And they're anticipating having a product meet the standard that's conveyed to the doctor and also to them as the general public. So it sounds like that that is a kind of a double whammy type of cases there because obviously the general public anyone that's had a number of jet seven procedure, loved ones family members, if there's been a subsequent surgery that was required if your loved one passed away, during a procedure that would have been performed by I guess it would be a vascular doctor. Is that not right, Daniel? Yes. Okay. Yeah, it welcome to contact us 855 99. Trent is the number 855 99. Trent? Tell me that, Daniel. So there's the July 27 letter, and the FDA put pressure on Penan. Dre basically told him, You need to have a voluntary recall, which is just like saying, either recall, or we're gonna force it to be recalled. What is what was the reasoning for the delay? Were they just not sure how, how risky this was to patients? They were still assessing it? Or what was the reason for the delay? If you know,

Daniel Lewis 6:37 you mean for the FDA?

Trenton Garmon 6:38 Yes.

Daniel Lewis 6:40 So I don't know that specific reason I do know, generally, the FDA is not very quick to issue either request for recall or, or some sort of additional warning, which is substantial. It's pretty

Trenton Garmon 6:54 healthy, because it allows for the companies to really self regulate. And that's, that's a major concern, when you already have a process that is really not that stringent. You get products all the time that are approved because of a grandfather clause, where it's similar to another product this company has, and I have seen that be a major issue for public safety here with false data, false safety studies by a fictional doctor, that is Uber concerning. Daniel, what are your thoughts with regards to the medical community's awareness? I know that they sent a letter out but do you find I think it to be the case that sometimes doctors use products that are unsafe or are recalled? And they do it because they don't even don't even have the information that awareness? Is that something that you've come across? Yeah, I

Daniel Lewis 7:45 find a lot of times the doctors just don't have the information. I when we're talking about Penumbra you have patients that are getting poor information and and patients who cannot be advised by their doctor on this jet seven catheter, because it's looking like not only did Penumbra, invent, research through an invented doctor, but they also did not report all of the dangerous things that were happening. Sure you had patients dying from the jet seven catheter and the number just did not report them to the FDA. Like they're required to do well and

Trenton Garmon 8:20 encourage each employee whether it be a nurse practitioner, nurse, nursing assistant doctor, and maintain that healthy accounting system and responsive type policy where if something occurs, you don't only to respond to the medical need. You need to document that whether it's on the vaccine adverse reporting, outlet, whether it's on the medical device, database, those kind of things help us as patients, because not only are we here, Daniel as attorneys offering services to help you and look into inform me about this product, but I do with the medical community is, you know, a community that needs to likely understand how pharmaceutical companies and product manufacturing companies don't always present accurate information. And it's good to make sure that the medical community stays aware of that. We've talked before Daniel on the show about the vaccine push that we're seeing now, have you had much of a chance to form by them opinion about what you think illegally? Are we in a state that exemption would be allowed? I mean, state of like pandemic versus just general welfare? Do you think at this point in time that an exemption is something that we're entitled to or what are your thoughts on it?

Daniel Lewis 9:42 You mean, with the with the drug company be exempt from liability?

Trenton Garmon 9:46 Yes, well, no, the exemption, which is I think for sure something that's been defined that should be challenged if you have similar studies, or findings that you have here because I don't know that I'm going to I don't think I trust the reporting of The clinical data from the vaccine industry, I'm, I'd love to get into discovery and look at that, because I'm sure they're hedging it away from really disclosing the number of adverse reactions. But no, I'm talking about an individual's liberty to refuse the vaccine. Where are you with that? Do you think that? And I'm presuming there's going to people that want to do that, I'm going to refuse it. And that's not because I want people to get COVID I just believe that it's the proper thing to do. Based on natural law, my personal convictions, no religious convictions, but what are your thoughts with him?

Daniel Lewis 10:31 I would think so. I see no reason why someone would not be able to say, I don't want that vaccine.

Trenton Garmon 10:41 I agree, but

Daniel Lewis 10:42 I don't know. Yeah, you know, I think and what's unfortunate is, though there are coercive ways to get someone, for example, you don't, I don't think you have to get the chickenpox vaccine, but you can't go to public school, if you know, in order for his parents, and that's a defect

Trenton Garmon 10:58 where it's in theory, it's not required to exist in the culture and to be able to participate in the community, then you have those type of processes and methods that just mean it's really a passive aggressive way to encroach on our rights. Well, thank

Daniel Lewis 11:16 you for sharing that. And that would be the Go ahead. Politically trend that that would I think that would be to your point. Therein lies the constitutional challenge. If you have someone who says, Hey, this is my right, I want to preserve my right not to get the vaccine. I think there's a valid claim later. Sure.

Trenton Garmon 11:35 I believe so. I think it'd have to be litigated to the Supreme Court though because operation warp speed limited not just the vaccine court but limited to basically a government board the presentation of claims or they've got cats just terrible way to I think police corporate America by how restrictive has been but I understand the circumstances and conditions of our time of this pandemic. Daniel, thank you for being on we've got Part Two coming up. This is Trenton Garmin on iheart. Radio bring it to you g file news, your civil rights news and legal docket reports.

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Welcome one Welcome all to I Heart Radio. This is attorney Trenton Garman bring to you your G file news. It is relevant civil rights news. And legal docket reports there is big government big insurance issues that need to be discussed so that you may we the people are informed and are able to be happy, productive, fruitful citizens and join our natural law rights. I've got Daniel Lewis and attorney here on for part two of this week's show, we're going to be talking about insurance. preserving your rights when dealing with insurance companies. There was a recent Wall Street Journal article that I found to be fascinating because it almost fits spot on the case that I have against a major conglomerate. Chubb is the name of the company. They have multiple entities are multiple companies in different states. But if you have an insurance claim with Chubb, feel welcome if they are delaying, denying or disputing your client, feel welcome to call us at 855 99 Trent. That's any climates have a Chubb insurance policy for indemnification if you've had property that's been taken if you've been injured if your house has been burned and Chubb is delaying diminishing or denying your client call us 855 99 Trent Daniel, thank you for being back on for part two here. I appreciate the jet formation and perspective on the jet seven and legal opinion if you will about the right to maintain a natural inoculation and say no to the job. I agree. I think it may end up having to go up to the Supreme Court just depending on how the election results turn out. Not you know that certifications haven't been made as of you know, recording and and this being uploaded to the podcast but I do think you get a lot going on in the world right now and our rights matter. So I'm going to be a no jabber, but I'm not going to dispute anybody that wants to get jabbed. But for part two here. What has been your perspective on an underinsured motorist claims? I know that a lot of Alabamians have been as they travel, involved in accidents, and they may not be aware that their own insurance company can provide coverage if the person who calls a wreck doesn't have a sufficient amount. What are your thoughts with with travel? And and how do you do as a as an attorney? If you're dealing with an insurance company, personally, Daniel, and you've got a client? How do you handle that?

Daniel Lewis 15:42 With the uninsured and underinsured motorist,

Trenton Garmon 15:44 but just overall, what are your techniques, you know, obviously, on an under insured is something that would need to be added as a rider. But when you're dealing with insurance companies that I recommend, don't record calls, but they certainly put everything in writing and email them. So give me your kind of perspective. And what would you advise john? q taxpayer john q citizen on how to how to best deal with insurance companies.

Daniel Lewis 16:11 Regarding your email idea, I think that's always good to have a written record of any communication. So

Trenton Garmon 16:18 your recommendation is you get the adjusters name information and an email address if they're willing to share it. On an under insured is what we're talking about. As far as policy recommendations go, you can't control somebody else, but you can control your own insurance. And we recommend that you add an on an under insured rider to your policy, your insurance agent will know what that means. If you deny it, you have to deny it in writing. So if you did not denied in writing and you legitimately wanted it or didn't understand and explain that to us by phone, 89985 599 Trent 855 99 Trent, and we'll talk with you on how we could potentially bring a claim on your behalf. Did you see that wall street journal article? I doubt that you did because I get the print version. And most people read it online. You know the news. But I found it kind of fascinating that that a Stradivarius, which is a rare violin has got as I was talking about earlier, very similar fact pattern that says David saucer, made a last minute phone call on August 16 1962 and was able to be invited to perform at NBC. He went to the Manhattan MUSIC Studios grabbing his violin as he was leaving. And it had been went to grab and had been taken the FBI. This is a case from 1962. But it shows you how if you have a claim for a valuable heirloom, if you have a home that's been damaged, and you've done upgrades to it. Insurance companies responsible for the appreciation in the value here you had a Stradivarius file and that was offered online for $500,000 is it's probably worth in the millions. Literally Chubb insurance back in the day when the claim was first made paid $35,000 on the climb, they were able to maintain the right actually 32,500 they were able to maintain the right if the violin was ever discovered. Daniel, have you had any kind of interesting cases like that with insurance? What's been your most fascinating insurance case that you enjoyed working on?

Daniel Lewis 18:29 You know, I have not as far as the appreciation, But to your point, I think that something insured party should keep in mind, I wonder if the general public is even aware of that. That as for your home for as it appreciates, you should increase coverage.

Trenton Garmon 18:46 That seems to be where the biggest rub comes is where what they offer is not what it's going to take to get you back in the position before it doesn't. It doesn't make it always hold and so you have to challenge that because unfortunately, that's is that not their duty. How would you describe their duty to indemnify someone

Daniel Lewis 19:06 a dangerous thing? I I'd say they certainly have a moral duty an ethical duty to do it. Yeah, yeah. And that's the thing. Yeah, I know and that's the thing No, like, we're all humans to me that that's the standard by which we should we should gauge our actions.

Trenton Garmon 19:28 But I don't I don't legally speaking depends on the particular channel or if it's a home or placement costs, you know, in there's obviously methods where appraisals can be done and professionals can be brought in which I found fascinating for this article that the Wall Street Journal put out because the claim that we have is very similar of rare family heirloom that I know people when that occurs, cannot be made whole that's unfortunate because that is a heirloom, you know, I've got certain items my my parents have Set of devices that my mom tells a story about how she got it and how much she loves it. And it was mounted to the wall. And we were told, if it falls and breaks, they were gonna kill us, you know, we kind of understood that was not literally gonna occur. But you know, you felt like your parents could put the fear of God in you that way. And so how much were those devices worth to my family, whether we're an airline, but there there are those ways though, that insurance claims can still be made and bring someone that's close to home as possible. So if your loved one has a loss that you believe is being undervalued by an insurance company, feel welcome to contact us, Garmin and Associates, this is Trenton, Garmin, have attorney Daniel Lewis here, you can reach us at 855 99. Trent is the number 855 99. Trent? Just I guess kind of swinging things back around Daniel for the conclusion here, part two. So what are the next steps in your mind for the jet seven litigation and what's gonna probably be years worth of litigation and I don't, I don't know how many climbs and how many people this is affected, it doesn't look like it's as large of a of a pool as you would experience to some class actions. But what are your thoughts with where we see the number of conundrum going, if you will,

Daniel Lewis 21:19 the first thing I would encourage people to do is call like that, because that's the first step to holding any of those companies accountable is for the injured parties to come forward. And, and talk about that. And it's not because of the filter that had the risk of stroke. And we're not even limiting injuries to death. If you have a stroke, you can have cognitive deficit, maybe you have difficulty calling or you can have difficulty understanding what someone's saying. You could have what they call a motor deficit. So you'll see, maybe paralysis of the face or a hand doesn't work. So there's there a litany of injuries, but as far as where do things go next? That depends on someone affirmatively saying, I'm not okay with it. Which next

Trenton Garmon 22:09 step of course, again, 855 99 trainers are number the next step pragmatically speaking would be for them to get additional treatment, right. And I would recommend that the general community consider if you have a product that you believe is unsafe and was implanted, I would go get a second opinion of another doctor because doctors are humans, and they have a very difficult time being critique heavy of their own work many times in their their own craft and art and appreciate doctors among goodness, what a great community and what I realized just last source that we have in the minds and in the skillfulness of surgeons and of general treating physicians, but I'd encourage you if you've had a medical device, specifically this Phnom Penh number on jet seven, vaginal mesh hernia mesh, any of the devices that you think are either recalled or looking to be recalled because there are advertisements out plaintiff attorneys in tennis to help with the people and police corporate america and so if you've seen any of those recalls for welcome to contact us was not something we're handling will be honored to get you in touch with someone that's 855 99 Trent. Just before we close I guess I will pitch this last thing here. chainsaw recall alert issued more than 550,000 products as a chainsaw recall, the mindful of if you've spent some kind of damage because of a craftsman chainsaw, I suppose so you may be entitled damages because of a safety issue with it. Daniel, thank you for joining me and being with us on this journey and on the show. I look forward to having you on again. It's a real privilege to be working with you.

Daniel Lewis 24:00 Merry Christmas to you and your family. Okay,

Trenton Garmon 24:02 Merry Christmas to you as well. Trenton Garmin here on G founders bringing you your civil rights news and legal document reports.

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Week 8, Part 2 - Erica Kemmer 

Legal Docket Report - Mass Incarceration is Modern Slavery - DOJ rightly sues Alabama over prison conditions. 

Studio Guest - John Mountz

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Sources:

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Trenton Garmon 0:46 Welcome one welcome all. This is Trenton Garmon with a special co host today. JOHN mounts, we're going to be talking about the election. You're on iheart radio bring to you gee file, news. So many things going on in the world that really makes you curious as to what you can believe and what you should question. But today, I'd like to give some credence to the Trump administration and his legal team and the challenges that they are mounting to the systematic voter fraud and the allegations of systematic voter fraud in the presidential election of 2020. So for segment one we've got titled, The machines and the method as a 12 minute conversation here that I hope will inform the public and john can chime in his perspective on should we push through as a way that people all the way into the time of the swearing in of Bob? And then what would it look like if there was significant evidence that continued to surface, the spot mainstream media's intentional unwillingness to report on what is a major concern for way to people and that's electronic voting International, undoubtedly, international companies, mainly dominion, who is based out of Toronto, they're telling us they're based out of Denver, Colorado, which is not untruth, per se. But it certainly is not full reflection and exhaustive reflection of how the company is operated. So we're gonna dive into that some today on this first part of the show, john, give me your perspective on it, are you for state dollars, because obviously, when in federal dollars when there are filings, the judicial system, it has a, an economic limitation to it, you know, there are people that file and pay the filing fee. But there also becomes prohibitive cost where there's a participation in the court system. And we the people pay that, I think they should push forward and continue to drive the argument, which seems to be true that the voting could have been manipulated. And there are interests that could run counter to the duty of each one election officials who contracted with dominion and the other companies and this is something I think that is right to be challenged. What are your perspectives on that job?

John Mounts 3:19 Well, Trenton, I think that there's a lot of manipulation that that was possible. And the way the machines were designed, they were designed for the to be able to be manipulated. And there was all these irregularities that happened. It seemed that people so bad, I won't say all people, but there were people involved in the process, who so badly wanted a win for anybody but Trump and I don't think for a minute they were they were rooting for Biden per se, they were just voting not for Trump. And that was, you know, de facto Biden.

Trenton Garmon 3:50 So in your perspective, then the anti trumpers because we didn't see a lot of public show support for Biden, but he allegedly has 80 million votes, a large percentage of which would have been calculated through the source coding of the Dominion system. There's a article that's come out recently that Dominion put out in a publication on their website, claiming that it's a reckless dis information campaign that Trump's attorneys are leading. Do you think that the public is informed at this point to really understand and dissect? What is the what is the claims being made by the Trump administration? Are they something that should be sold out? Do you think there's a general understanding of that? Do you think most people are still confused as to the dominion and the s and s and other company that other companies that have the digital machine? Do you think there's a full understanding among the we the people or do you think there's still a lot of disinformation and a lack of real mental faculties, if you will, with regards to that formation process, you understand? And think that there's there's irregularities because of the software. Do you think that most people just believe it's about stuffing? Do you think that people are just angry and not sure exactly how to respond to an election that didn't go their way?

John Mounts 5:11 Well, there's two things when you talk about do you think people have the full understanding? No. And a lot of them are trying to understand it. There's a lot of people who there's some who say it was absolutely right. But they don't really know. And they don't really care because their guy won. There's some people who are very upset. And because because their guy lost, but they don't understand exactly the why. And the question is, which one? How how'd it happen? was it was it that it was stolen electronically? It wasn't stolen by people? Was it a combination? For example, we've heard reports, I'm not going to say whether they're valid or not, we've heard reports that there were people at the polls who would run the same name 20 ballots through the machine three, four or five times,

Trenton Garmon 5:50 which would be ballot feeding,

John Mounts 5:52 exactly running up the counts. There are reports that, you know, extra ballots were pulled out from places he heard these reports of in Atlanta, were specifically in in Fulton County, where people would pull out all these ballots that were they called pristine ballots, meaning that they were never folded yet they were supposedly mailed in now, you can't really mail about in the unfolded form, you got to fold it up and put an envelope. So that makes you wonder what happened there. There's so many of those situations, little one offs, you know, okay, maybe you can invalidate 20 ballots this way and 30 ballots that way, and whatever. And what the one side is saying, well, there's not enough to have affected the outcome. But we don't know because no one's really dug into it.

Trenton Garmon 6:31 It's a beautiful thing to bring up. Because the cumulative evidence is what has to be considered in the line is how you get there. The different ways I think, is what we've got to evaluate. I have major concern. And I think if I was representing the Trump administration or on their legal team, given feedback, and here's an objective attorney giving public interest information, I would challenge actual contracts himself with dominion. How can a national election we're officers that are election officers have a duty to the best interests of our nation, they have a duty to the United States Constitution. And yet they have allowed for a foreign company to control the source data, the actual electronic results, which could be manipulated. And that's where the concern arises, in my mind is the democrats are saying this is not a possibility this couldn't even occur and get I'm a libertarian, I've represented city council members that were Democrats, I've represented Republicans. But I am deeply concerned by the fact that we've got a Toronto based company in 24, out of the 50 states contracted with that Toronto based company that we know common sense tells us computers can be manipulated, and I've had my own experience with it in the legal field, it was the proper human correction. But I was sharing with a friend and the clerk did the right thing and bringing correction to a complaint that I had filed, but to show you that there can be digital mistakes and errors that have to be overseen and have to be corrected. I filed a lawsuit the day of the deadline, which is referred to as a statute limitations and got a filing certificate. But the clerk's office the way that the program and software is set up for the federal court filing system, approved it on there in the day after. So the complaint did actually get kicked to us through email, indicated the day after our statute of limitations said Ryan, called judge Scott Kugler, his office mazing federal court system, we have amazing federal court judges, and they did an override because we had a certificate for the date it was correctly filed. In the complaint literally, that I have, in one hand, if I'm standing holding my file, and then I have in the other hand will show two different dates of which it was filed because of a override done by someone in a position of authority the proper way. So we had a human come in and correct. The software glitch, the software process from step one to two, three, step three being it's in the court system. And at that point in time, it's not just electronically filed, but it's been assigned to a judge and the judge has received it in their cube. If we know that these can occur on a daily basis with software that we do have, how can officers of the United States sworn to uphold and protect the constitution for the best interest of this nation? Who should be looking at it from a nationalist perspective, not a globalist perspective? How can they contract with a company that's providing to 24 different states services for something that's going to be controlled or could be controlled by an entity is controlled by an entity outside the United States but could be could be controlled by someone that has an adverse interest to the United States? Can you actually on its face, john,

as a citizen, can you say that you think those contracts with Dominion were were legitimate were they void on their face? I mean, that would be 24 out of 50 states right there that would justify some type of re election, some type of campaign being chalked back up. And I guess a loaded question becomes if that's one of the wise electronically, would you be for another another election? Would you be for setting it aside? And do you think those duties can be fulfilled canon international company? We've got one out of London, one out of Toronto, can they do an election official legitimately reach mutual assent and consideration? Can an officer for the United States of America assent to a contract? To give what is some of the most sensitive American data? that there could be because it's involving the highest most powerful office in the world? Can they ethically and legally contract with an international company? I say no, but I'm looking at it probably with a different pervy, because I've studied law and by the law and think that it's very clear that some duties have such a conflict of interest and on their face. If that conflict cannot be resolved, which I can't see a resolution here. The contract itself at some level is void on its face. And you should chalk back up the intent of the contract through a proper means. What are your thoughts on that john, and that information about dominion and being based out of Toronto and what could have occurred? Not saying that it did. But I think rule 30 discovery needs to be conducted, we need to see what are your thoughts on that? Well,

John Mounts 11:35 I you know that our state is not one of the states by the way that was contracted with them. And john Merrill, our Secretary of State was very clear on the fact that we really have to we want state control these things. But at the same time, I think that there needs to be national standards. And maybe that's one of the standards they need to have states

Trenton Garmon 11:52 definitely agree. And we'll talk more important too about john Mills, a wonderful secretary of state but I think he has allowed some of the problem to be perpetrated because of a lack of taking out the slack in 2017. And properly investigating counts, and allegations of voter fraud. But this is Trenton Garmin live on I Heart Radio. Thank you for joining us bring civil rights news and legal reports to you We the People.

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Trenton Garmon 13:08 Welcome back to part two of Trenton, Garmin live here on our heart ready, we're talking about the presidential election 2020. In a spillover segment, we're referring to as the machines and the methods. I've got a stack of paper here and John's in the studio, co hosting and shotgun and if you will, this brief journey of our 12 minutes segment. But that's a big stack holding it up for him to look at I would guess how many pages you think that is jogger

John Mounts 13:34 about 200.

Trenton Garmon 13:36 That's probably 200 pages of documents scoring him and i'd agree it might be a little bit more of Dominion voting system Inc. filings with the Secretary of State for Colorado. So with regards to can there be voter fraud systematic collection, can there be the human override that actually overrides a vote in one particular precinct and the Dominion CEO, I think about this, who is a Toronto resident, and is leading the company that has 24 out of 50 of the state contracts for the presidential election for the United States of America. And we're looking at 200 plus pages of documents that have not had the opportunity court under Rule 30 of the Rules of Civil Procedure that I think the Trump administration and we the people should expect of our government. These are records indicating foreign interest in the company in indicating transactions, multiple transactions with various entities who we don't know who each one of these entities are. And yet we do know that there are human overrides and systems. So we talked at the top of the show there about on its face the contracts himself Maybe being something that can be challenged our firm as a civil rights firm, we sue the government routinely. We believe that big government when they abuse power, they should be challenged in those abuses of power. One of our primary methods is to stand for and stand with detainees who have been abused by the system. We'll talk more next week about the lawsuit that the Department of Justice finally has filed after providing adequate notice to Governor Ivey and I love granny Kay and I say that respectfully because I think she does a wonderful job at represent natural law and neighborly love to we the people here in Alabama but our prison system has had major problems if your loved one has experienced problems with the jail or prison system being denied access to standardized medicine or being assaulted or attacked by attacked by guard or assault or attacked by a co detainee where the guards failed to protect you for Welcome to call us. We would love to have the opportunity to evaluate that climb 855 99 Trent is the number if your loved one has been victim of police brutality, Officer brutality, correctional officer brutality or denied access to standardized medicine, while a detainee call us at 855 99 Trent.

But the civil right to have one vote. And that vote be counted is at issue here in this digital world. And we're talking about Dominion voting systems and the foreign interests that has 24 out of the 50 States under its dominion, its digital dominion, who has access to the source coding, have we had paper ballots that have been looked at and evaluated compared to the votes and that are recorded electronically? And the answer is kind of a hodgepodge. Because each state is very different. But we're talking specifically now about how the Trump administration could challenge legally the results. And it is very peculiar that one would Garner 70 million votes and lose the election, notwithstanding some of the poll indications and have another candidate who didn't seem to have really any popularity, and marshaling more votes than Barack Obama did. And again, I'm not a Republican, I'm not a Democrat. I'm a libertarian. I've even been tweet slammed by Donald Trump Jr. who Newsweek dot was so odd that they wrote a an article about it, just saying is objectively as I can evaluate it, I think that the Trump administration is doing the right thing. And I think the Trump administration should challenge all the way to seating each one of these executives, and each one of the software and computer engineers who would be over the source code for the various contracts, seat them and take them through the documents that they have on the Secretary of State's website various interest and take them through the tabulation comparisons. There's a report in Michigan that's being offered to a court that 68% of the votes that were cast were successfully avoided by the machine, but there was an error. Right? That was the other part of the 100. There was 32% error. Right? That's an absolutely unacceptable quarter on standards. error, right, in fact, proves to be true, then I think that that may be the the breach in the dam, that administration should look to. So back to where we were with way the people john, do you have concern that there's contracts that are elected officials who have a duty to protect the Constitution, uphold the Constitution, allow for one vote and one count for that vote to be memorialized? And to be preserved and protected? Do you have concern that they've contracted with a foreign company to count our votes for our most high office?

John Mounts 19:00 You know, Trenton, not on its face? And here's what I mean by that is anybody can contract with anyone to do anything. The question is, how well can it be done? I think the important thing is the oversight of the product created by because somebody could just as easily make a machine to cheat in Nebraska as they could in Canada or Venezuela. Sure. The question is, is there any sort of quality control on that machine? Is there any transparency into the way that it was designed? Do they want to maybe say put the schematic out there for everyone to look over and go how's this software really designed?

Trenton Garmon 19:31 And I would agree, but I have to agree to disagree, but for the sake that we're talking about constitutional principles, that I don't think you can waive a conflict with the chances of international influence being involved in the most sacred, right that we have as a as a democracy as a Republican, as a as a republic that's intended to be led by way the people but certainly I think there are situations And I believe there are various types of businesses that can be done. But when it comes to as with the Olympics, when it comes to the purity of the American vote, I just don't think that we can have an official enter into a good faith agreement. In way the reality that the source data is going to be on some server overseas. And yet believe all the while, but we're not allowing for some form of globalism, to take, if you will, precedent over the Constitution's principles of nationalism, and we're united based on these beliefs. But for the quality control, you're saying, in your mind, it may be legitimate that the contracts were appropriate. But the challenge to how the results were done, do you think the Trump administration have the right to expect depositions and to even maybe ask the supreme court or in the middle of a pandemic, they would, I believe, want to argue that there is justification to force another election. And on its face, if the argument failed before a judge that those contracts were entered into in good faith and did not involve any kind of unwinnable conflict. But the challenges remained, and the experts were to find that this 68% of success rate with 32% error rate and the error rate, according to the Federal Election Commission is supposed to be under point 0008. You know, if you're drinking alcohol, and you get above point 00 8%, in the state of Alabama, then that's a crime according to the state of Alabama. Well, according to the Federal Election Commission, if you have an error, right with your electronic voting machine, that is about point 000 8%. And we have an expert that is willing to swear under oath, which is the beauty of it, that that has occurred, then that in my mind creates a major concern. And I think that the likelihood because as you brought up with the systematic categories that occur, the main category is that there is the ability for the human override of a system when it's digital and doesn't have a one for one, here's a ballot for here's the vote types type, type, federal or National Quality control as you brought up. So do you think that there's a chance that the Trump administration is going to take all this before the Supreme Court and we have have a punt for a while and Trump's stay in office? And we have it sorted out through actual litigation and depositions? Or do you think Trump is going to surrender at some point and say, Hey, I will just go ahead and hand the office over to Biden, even though these credible and substantial bits of evidence exists, notwithstanding the mainstream media refusing absolutely refusing to report on the veracity and credibility of the challenges that the democrats made in 2017. And have made every works worked at verse to them. What are your thoughts with that?

John Mounts 23:06 trend? Unfortunately, every single time he's tried to take this behind before a court, any court a state court, the Supreme Court didn't matter. He was he was cast down every single time. I don't think his road victory is going to be through a court. I think it'll probably be through our legislature. Mo Brooks is looking to challenge the the the the vote, and I think he's going to try and find a senator who will go with it, maybe Tommy Tuberville. But together, they might be able to, they might be able to say, Hey, we need and I wouldn't do it, he wouldn't be a revote. It'd be more like a runoff almost like another election to Just Between Biden and just between Trump and see who wins that one. But if we use

Trenton Garmon 23:45 the same election,

John Mounts 23:47 especially but if we use the same machines, we're gonna get about the same result. I

Trenton Garmon 23:50 think and you think the Senate has the authority, which is a very unique body, it's important to understand that the government, of course, is composed of three different branches, but the us senate is a self governing body. And they really run the country, if you will, with with the judicial system and with the executive system, but there is a mechanism that self governing body that prevents a senator from being removed, typically, and it's occurred that that has happened but point being if the senate could push that through and force a nother election, it'd be interesting to see the president running executive branch I think should take that fight to the end. I hope that he does. This was Trenton, Garmin on iHeartRadio. If you have a civil rights need that you would like to have a whether whether it's police brutality, whether you believe that your loved one was denied access to medical care feel welcome to call us at 855 99 Trent that's 855 99 Trent.

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Civil Rights - 1st Amendment - Freedom of Worship & Liberty Rights

In the midst of COVID, do online services provide the same spiritual experience as in person?  

Phone Guest - Rev. Justin Clay Rushing of Chariot of Fire Ministries, Virginia Beach, Virginia 

Call to Action - 

Week 7, Part 2

Legal Docket Reporting - U.S. Supreme Court finds NY Restrictions Unconstitutional & Facebook sued by U.S. Government

Phone Guest - Rev. Justin Clay Rushing of Chariot of Fire Ministries, Virginia Beach, Virginia

Call to Action - 

Sources:

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/27/939449928/supreme-court-backs-religious-challenge-to-new-york-covid-19-restrictions

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/26/politics/supreme-court-religious-restrictions-ruling-covid/index.html

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20a87_4g15.pdf

https://mtsu.edu/first-amendment/post/613/covid-19-and-the-first-amendment-a-running-report-oct-28

Transcript

Trenton Garmon Welcome Welcome. Welcome one Welcome all to Trenton, Garmon live here on I Heart Radio get a special guest today, someone that is near and dear to my heart a dear friend but also a highly respected scholar. And for those of you who follow Jesus is mainly considered to be an evangelist, Reverend Clay Rushing is with us we're going to be talking about your first amendment right. And the free exercise of religion calls. For we launch into that let me just welcome clay and get him to briefly introduce himself to those who are tuning in. Hey, Clay, welcome to the show.

Clay Rushing Hello, how are you, my friend?

Trenton Garmon I am doing well. All things considered in this world. How are you doing, brother?

Clay Rushing I'm just just trying to love Jesus through through all of this chaos and craziness man. I think I just finished my demon degrees. from United Theological Seminary, I stand corrected.

Trenton Garmon Reverend Dr. Clay rushing, right.

Clay Rushing Yeah. Amen, brother.

Trenton Garmon You are credentialed. What tell us your thoughts, we'd get to segments for those who are tuning in a 12 minute segment, where we're going to talk about the civil rights news. It's relevant to you as a member of We the People, if you're an American, we have certain constitutional and alienable rights. These are natural rights that are inherent when we're born, they're inherent in the sense that they are endowed upon us by our Creator. And we believe that one of those rights is the right to freely worship. There are no persei clauses set out on any of the amendments, but we draw some of the language out of them. And we refer to that portion of law, whatever it's your turn to specifically as far as your life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness. So that narrowly tailored area of law called civil rights. We draw out specific clauses from the terminology and there is clearly in the first amendment right. A right to gather to worship. And the Supreme Court has just issued what I think is a good decision. I think it may be like a flash in the pan impactfully speaking because it was entered on a mergency motion, and not an actual appeal to the Supreme Court, the writ of cert, or through a adverse finding that's taken up on appeal. But clay, what is your perspective? I know you're not too familiar, maybe with the ruling and the facts that the court was considering, but as a pastor, as a Reverend as an evangelist that travels and you know, you take I believe people's spiritual life as they are and you're helping them to advance and to grow in their faith. And that understanding can the First Amendment be fulfilled in the same means through online streaming? And what are your thoughts about this emergency petition being granted and the lifting of those Jewish worshippers and Catholic worshipers and all people of faith in New York

Clay Rushing was a wonderful decision. Because I truly do believe that, for me comes down to freedom of choice. I believe that I believe in what the First Amendment says, Congress shall make no law that that it hit that inhibits our right together and her worship, if you take is you is your own work this thread that I do not think that any, any state any state has has a wall saying with you that this is this is what we need to do during the bed devic

Trenton Garmon motion? Sure. for clarification, you know, the the First Amendment does include executive orders, and this was an executive order issued by the governor of Governor Cuomo. And what often happens is you get a miss application kind of a jamming of the machine, if you will, throwing a wrench in it by way of executive orders that aren't constitutional on their face, but ended up taking time to work up through the judicial process. To be challenged, and increasingly here enough como and know what at what I see many times in many of our leaders because we're all fallen humans, but he sought not to see the executive order challenge on its face, but he actually gave an exception to his order, and was going to allow the Catholic Diocese and the people of Israel, which is one of the groups in Israel of America, agua Israel, of America's name of the party, but he was going to allow them to continue to gather worship, as an exception to the rule. But the rule still stayed in place. It was just not applied. So it's a kind of like an edict, if you will, if we were to be some totalitarian rule, which began in the think de facto we kind of are, but point is away that it was implemented, is still a violation of the First Amendment very clearly on its face. The court hasn't found that. But the court has found grounds to grant the emergency petition and live the implementation or the actual execution of the order. So it remains on appeal. And they're not, you know, they're not prohibiting I don't think people from gathering there. But you don't know when when we say prohibiting is that an actual thing that's happening day by day based on the presence of city officials, because sometimes there's a deterrent effect that I find to be just as difficult to deal with when you're looking at government overreach encroachment into people's lives. You know, when we're saying to people, there's another court case that went up that challenge the criminality of a mask requirement, but when you're saying people can freely gather, but yet they have to wear their masks, but you position police around their city officials or you send people throughout the week to check every CDC guideline is is that freedom? I don't think it is. And so, with the First Amendment, in this ruling, do you think that now that people can read gather that we're going to see that actually occur in practice? Would you think some of the governmental presence and just the general fear is going to continue to deter people from from gathering? What are your perspectives on that as a pastor and as a doctor?

Clay Rushing I, I truly, I truly believe that. Like I said, before, everything comes down to personal choice to breed them, thanks. If yes, if people want to gather,

Trenton Garmon they should be able to. I am a big believer in physically gathering, because the Bible does say you do not forsake Islam, we have yourself. Well, it's natural law, when you get in people's presence. as odd as it is, there's a study that says we emit about 600,000 particles of skin a day, this may seem strange, but when you're in somebody's presence, you know you're breathing them in, you're actually communing with them as a spiritual term that a lot of people use. So that fellowship, your Bible says, Let's not neglect doing that. But here in this situation, we have the health department that was allowing large stores in Brooklyn, they could literally gather hundreds of people and shop there in any given day. And thank goodness, thank the Lord, thank Jesus that the Supreme Court found what they found, because just up the street, just nearby the synagogue was prohibited. And of course, the Catholic parish as well. And really any other way the health officials chose to on the ground interpreted, which if you get a client comes back, you know, talk in biblical terms to the term lawless. You know, we're in a time that is unprecedented, which I think every time in history is but we see the magnification of so much of the intersect of the citizenry and big government, that it is hyper concerning. And I think we live in a time of the fact of lawlessness where people want to follow the law, they want to obey, they want to understand but they also have so many conflicting things that they're being told that it makes it difficult to even follow the law. What are your thoughts on gathering? If it comes back to there's charges against the leaders for asking people to gather there's a case it's up on appeal now where a pastor was arrested and charged with a crime? Of course, you know, there's still remedies and ways for that to be challenged. It's in the criminal court itself, you know, affirmative defenses, but those groups of people are told not to gather. Do you think that we're going to see that type of enforcement again, or do you think here in America we've had the court issue a ruling that people believe is given them the right to gather and they'll get back to kind of normal life What are your thoughts?

Clay Rushing I would hope so. Every state is different. Um, The problem to me, Fred, is this the pastors are trying. They want to do the right thing with their people. They don't want people to get sick. But I think what has happened is, honestly comes down to do you trust God or not a matter

Trenton Garmon of? Sure. Which is inherent in the right to really gather that's inherent in the freedom. Yeah.

Clay Rushing Yes. And so I'm not saying what, we're clear on that. I wear a mask. Because my wife, as we do, that takes it should go,

Trenton Garmon you got Oh, by the happy wife, happy love. Right. God forces. Empower. Are you are you saying that wearing a mask for you is a freedom issue?

Is that a religious issue? What is your perspective on it?

Clay Rushing It's a it's a freedom issue.

Trenton Garmon I think it's liberty and freedom.

Clay Rushing Freedom, joy,

Trenton Garmon but I think it could be locked inoculation, resistance. It could be religious as well. Okay, we're going to wrap up here. Dr. Rushing thank you for being with me on Segment Number one. Look forward to segment number two. We'll be back listeners here in just a moment. If you have questions, concerns about your civil rights, you're welcome to contact our firm. We do this every day eight 599 Trent 855 99 Trent g file radio, your source for civil rights news and legal docket reporting.

Welcome, welcome. Welcome one. Welcome all to Trenton Gorman, live on I Heart Radio. We've got Dr. Clay rushing with us here is a telephone guests. We're talking about the free exercise of religion, the Supreme Court's recent granting of a petition for emergency release mirchi relief, if you will, from the the injunctive effectively executive order issued by Governor Cuomo. Clay is an expert if you had to qualify him in court, which is what as an attorney do, we take him through his recent 10 years of service to the general public, his credentials as a doctor and this this is someone that I think if you google clay rushing, that you will be amazed at the level of faith that clay has. So Dr. Rushing as we were in the break there. You and I were chatting just briefly about being radical, and you get radical faith. And this is a time where mass no mass gathered, don't gather. What's legal, what's illegal. We talked in the first part of the show about a pastor, the Louisiana Pentecostal pastor that was arrested for gathering folks and of course, I'm sure no mask or wearing a mask kind of played into the investigation and and that what we think to be encroachment on his rights, but share with us give us your thoughts you were bringing up is a matter of faith to you, which is protected in the First Amendment. But as a as an evangelists as a Doctorate of theology. Tell us how that intersects with our life today.

Clay Rushing I think that we have to, we have to step back, we have to realize that people people are going to die. People have died every day. From a whole bunch of things. And

Trenton Garmon I know that you're not a morbid gas, not often that you bring up death, but that is the second most fearful thing that people have in their lives is the awareness that they're going to die. First most fearful, oddly enough, is being asked to speak publicly. But that's that's an issue of fate. So you're saying is there an increase in the numbers today? What's the data on that? Are you believing that the general unrest is because people are lacking faith that maybe those in our country had at one time before?

Clay Rushing Absolutely, I think I think I think all all comes back. I think the civil unrest the the the everything one Back to not knowing who we are not not really having a good understanding of who, who God created there to be understand. And I think the further

Trenton Garmon you speak of civil unrest tell us because you're in Virginia. Is that correct? In Virginia Beach? No. Are you living in Chesapeake?

Clay Rushing Virginia Beach

Trenton Garmon Have you gotten out much to see some of the protests that there were before that area and to see what type of citizen reflow there is?

Clay Rushing The I have been, I, I have been keeping up to date I originally was. I was originally living in Richmond. That's where I spent the majority of my life.

Trenton Garmon Have you seen? Have you seen much civil unrest there? And I bring it up, because I'm back and forth from Florida down through Georgia south part up to Alabama. And it's pretty much been the same in this area. But there. I've seen protests where police are doing units of three and four, and are sweeping the streets and arresting people who do not move, which would be a civil rights violation. But yeah, speaking of civil unrest, you're talking more about people being fearful the general public being fearful mask, no mask and some of the distinctions and differences you see there. Tell us about that.

Clay Rushing Absolutely. And I think it all started, you know, with the me absolute heinous murder of George Floyd. And and then, with this pandemic on top of it, I find I just find it interesting that we have civil, we have civil disobedience going on people able to protest in the, in the street with impunity. Sure, is their right to do but we we get gather in houses of worship, worship safe

Trenton Garmon practice, it is a de facto time of lawlessness, it seems to be judge Alito here in November of 2020. Yeah, this was the 16th Christian Post reporter the pandemic has resulted in previously unimaginable restrictions as you were bringing up on individual liberty. It is an indisputable statement of fact, we have never before same restrictions as severe, extensive and prolonged as those experienced for most of which would be, as of March, you know, this this year, March 2020, when Donald Trump declared a state of emergency. So you agree with that statement that this is an American history, American jurisprudence, it is a time of probably more confusion than ever as to where the intersect we the people in the citizenry is with with the government, and with that, that intersect with big government, because I am a like you a follow up cross, but I'm Catholic, which, you know, we don't believe in manichaeism we believe that all people inherently in their spirit want to do good. And so with that said, you know, the lawlessness, I don't think is because of some nude on cooperation that exists, you know, or lack thereof in lack of cooperation in the public. So you agree that this is probably one of the most restricted times if ever that we've seen it's been declared a state of emergency. Do you think in a state of emergency that, unlike war, that there's a distinction in our rights to gather? Now that pastor that was charged your pastor, you could have this kind of issue, you know, be what you face, but pastor Tony spell, he asked for emergency relief from criminal charges, Judge Alito was commenting, but they rejected the petition, you know, on the intersect of faith and freedom of worship and freedom of liberties in the government. But the supreme court denied his petition, and those criminal charges are moving forward on in person worship services. And they were holding that in defiance of COVID-19. Do you find that I mean, I as a civil rights attorney, I frankly find that offensive, because, in fact, inherent in our civil rights is the right to gather and inherent it is people's freedom of worship, right? And so in the free market of ideas, if people disagree, you have to go back to natural law and you have to take into consideration as you brought up what is the intent of the person and to literally be charged with a crime. You can't have criminal intent mens rea, a negative Desire mentally, to bring about the harm of another person. That's the requirement for a crowd. But we've got a pastor thinking that it truly is best. And it sounds to me like what you brought up with where there is that intersect and that tension, people feel the need to have public outcry. And you brought up civil disobedience and public acts of civil disobedience. Am I missing it? Do you see that intersect? Or what are your thoughts with with just the reality? We're reading an article about a man that was trying to gather people which is a biblical command?

Clay Rushing Yeah, I, I think it's totally one sided. Because if you if we wrote, my there will be like, if you want to protest, protest anything other than if you want to gather for any other major reason, like protesting racial, racial injustice, which is a good, good thing, I'm not saying it's not a good thing, when, when there were de facto

Trenton Garmon even restrictions on it, which I found to be extremely odd. They did not report on this, but I witnessed this with my own eyes, down in St. Petersburg, Florida, where there were black lives matter protesters, thank god public outcry is occurring, because the systematic issue is there. And these are freedom of assembly rights assignments would be freedom of worship, right there. They're inherent and they have as a foundation, that natural law philosophy that we feel in our heart bear witness that it's appropriate true and right but point being we may not have had even with the Black Lives Matter movement restrictions on them on people us gathering but we had on the books but we had de facto restrictions, which were not theory but reality restrictions. Were police officers were walking in three to four squad type units and we're picking up people that were standing Of course, you know, there's reports out we're federal agents, we're taking people into custody so with that said the intersect you think the right to gather that this pastors charges sound in your mind to be unjust. Can you have Kremlin tan as a pastor? You're trying to gather people for what good? That's I guess the typical Yeah, message of the gospel, right?

Clay Rushing Yes, I don't I don't think I don't think any any, any good pastor, we need that. And

Trenton Garmon there's a distinction of how that applications working out into the secular world which is something you air is concerned the Supreme Court. Beautifully done here with Amy bear, you know, the new justice to the court. She's given a new conservative majority but that COVID 19 New York petition granting was good I think in clang glad to have you on the intersect there of freedom of worship. But for those listeners who are tuning in, you're welcome to join back next week. Go check out clay Russian Reverend clay rushing invited him to come speak at your church. Have him and encourage him clay again grateful for you beome listeners if you have any civil rights issues feel welcome to contact us. 855 99 Trent This is Trenton Garman live on I Heart Radio, bringing you g file news, your civil rights news and legal docket reports.

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Civil Rights - Cannabis

Is the state of Alabama discriminatory against the Cannabis plant?  

Phone Guest - H. Marty Schelper - President of the Alabama Chapter of Republicans Against Marijuana Prohibition

Week 6, Part 2

Legal Docket Reporting - 

Phone Guest - H. Marty Schelper - President of the Alabama Chapter of Republicans Against Marijuana Prohibition

Sources: 

https://www.al.com/news/2020/11/medical-marijuana-reaches-mississippi-will-it-come-to-alabama-next.html

https://www.mpp.org/states/alabama/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_Alabama

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_defense

Transcript

Trenton Garmon 0:17 Welcome all to I Heart Radio. This is Trenton Garmon bringing to you the G file news we are your source for civil rights news and legal docket reports we bring to you weekly, what we believe lines up with natural law and hopefully neighborly love get with us in this first segment, a two part show this week, a black thinker to those who are for natural medicine Marty Schelper is her name and she is a president of the Alabama chapter of Republicans against marijuana prohibition a group that is one I'm new to not heard of. But obviously doesn't mean they've not been doing a lot because there's a national chapter and then of course here in the state of Alabama, she is the president. So she's joining us by phone doing a tele phonic call in here telephonic conference and just going to discuss today is a state of Alabama discriminatory against the cannabis plant when you consider all the medical evidence and the studies and she's going to be able to chime in and help us understand where it is legislatively and help us understand what has transpired bringing it to where it is now that we could see an Alabama the re Institute reinstitution of you if you will, because prior to the early 1900s, there was no prohibition against cannabis and hemp was considered to be a common product natural product that was used. So what are your thoughts? Miss Marty, share with us what the chapters do and how you think this will benefit the people of the state of Alabama.

Marty Schelper 1:54 Okay, Trent, we really appreciate you having us on our radio. Thank you so much. We've been a chapter since October the 16th of 2017. We've been here for three years. We're slowly building. It is geared towards Republicans, but we have people from all political persuasions that are participating with our organization. We're trying to educate the citizens of the state of Alabama, that the laws and propaganda that they've been fed since 1937. With the marijuana Tax Act, are erroneous cannabis is a natural, safe plan. It was given to us by our Creator. When he created the planet, he gave us the plants that we needed to heal our bodies and to heal the nations and we're here to restore cannabis to its natural beauty.

Trenton Garmon 2:47 Have you seen a lot of support from the republican entrenched? individuals, if you will, those power players that I would think normally are considered to be very conservative, and I'm using the term conservative from a Christian perspective and more likely than not Protestant and maybe even radical perspective? So my question really stems to do you have opposition within the Republican Party? Because it seems to be an amazing thing that you've allowed the process to bear out so much, so that who you are within the Republican Party, seeking for natural medicine to be pushed, but as I understand it, that's been one of the most opposition or the most opposition or the two primary parties. What kind of pushback Have you seen within the Republican Party, if any?

Marty Schelper 3:36 Well, I just want to bring something up that most people do not realize it. Cannabis seems to be a progressive liberal baby that's pushed along, but republicans in the sight of Alabama have sponsored and passed every cannabis legislation that we currently have is the law. So I guess

Trenton Garmon 3:57 my once promoting it for February is a Republican, is that correct?

Marty Schelper 4:03 Right. He actually sponsored lynnie saw television and that was passed by the Alabama legislature. And is that the one the compact,

Trenton Garmon 4:12 a germ because of COVID. And we're looking for it to be represented in February's of a different bill.

Marty Schelper 4:20 No, that legislation was actually passed in 2014. The compassion Act, which was Senate Bill 165, you talked about? Yeah. The sb 165. The compassion act was sponsored by Senator Tim Nelson in Florence, Alabama. And it was passed in the Senate after the Alabama cannabis commission did everything that Kay avea asked them to do just to make sure that everybody was on the same page and was on board with the legislation. And it did pass the Senate. It was on its way to the house health committee when Governor Ivey shut down the legislature because of COVID. So Alabama republicans against marijuana prohibition actually sent an email and a letter to Governor Avi last week, calling for a special session and hopes that maybe this legislation could still be passed as a 2020. Bill. We have not had any correspondence or any communication back from her office. But if we have to wait until 2021 legislative session, which will begin in February, we're basically going to have to start from square one, which is not a good thing for the citizens of Alabama because most people don't realize every time this can get kicked down the road, and the compassion Act is a medicinal cannabis bill.

Trenton Garmon 5:50 Isn't Isn't that your primary opportunity to have it passed for the state though, because if we go through the history of it looks like Carla's law was 2014. And that allowed because of course people are concerned about the adverse effects, the psychoactive effects that THC and CBD and the terpenes can have. And there is a clear awareness, I think, among all adults that any type of medication, it cloning, pharmaceutical medications, primarily, if you look at the injury and some of the death cases from bizarre responses that people have had to sleep in pills and other type of medication that is in the psychiatric realm, if you will of pharma, pharmacological medicine. But if you look and evaluate that, isn't that probably your best opportunity in February, you said there's a quicker way that you think the government in the state of Alabama could could approve and could push cannabis for medication?

Marty Schelper 6:45 Yes, and I do want to thank you for correcting me on that. Yes, Carly's law was 2014 Lenny's law was in 2016. And yes, if we can get a special session and get the compassionate Act passed, that would be great for this would be great for the citizens is because every time this can get kicked down the road, the people in the state of Alabama who need the medicinal cannabis are having to wait six months longer before they can even you know, have access to it because once the legislation is passed, the legislation has to be implemented and come with

Trenton Garmon 7:22 conversation when you say people who need it lay out for us your case because you know, we're not talking about Cheech and Chong, they need to have their journey across the state of Alabama but you're referring to children who have epilepsy, you're referring to people who have PTSD or other neurological conditions that can be treated by way of these natural plants. Is that your pitch for the possum?

Marty Schelper 7:45 Absolutely correct. Alzheimers disease, cancer patients, Parkinson's, our veterans need cannabis for PTSD and cannabis is the Safer Choice. And of course, no one has died from cannabis

Trenton Garmon 8:00 legal in 37 out of 50 states as we stand now, and I know that it's near and dear to your heart, you brought up cancer. Share with our listeners, if you would just some of your story about what made you so passionate about this natural medicine being accepted and the prohibition in the state of Alabama are no longer existing and the barriers not being there. Tell us a little bit about your story.

Marty Schelper 8:24 Oh, thank you so much. My dear sister passed away in August of 2012. And I was very familiar with cannabis, but I had no idea that it had medicinal properties. And people are being cured and people don't like to hear the word cured, but they are being cured from cannabis. I mean, from cancer with cannabis. And if I had known in 2012 or 2011, my sister would have been illegally healed but now she's legally dead. So what's something like this becomes personal for you? And you really get out there and educate yourself on the truth about cannabis. I'm really not sure how you could possibly even say that cannabis is a bad thing. I mean, people think it's the devil's lettuce. But it's not I mean, this is a medicinal plant that was put here for our healing. research has been done in Israel for over 50 years. Paid for by the US taxpayer. A scientist Dr. Raphael mushroom, and he is the one who discovered that THC Delta nine school he has healing properties.

Trenton Garmon 9:38 You're bringing up spiritual things anytime someone acknowledges the devil. You know, we'd like to be sure that the name of the Lord Jesus is pushed out there as well. But I have found that I could be wrong about this but that radical Protestantism and I'm not talking about your everyday follower of Jesus, but those who read the word and and love the Lord that have have come to a place of Implementing moral perspectives through law. I found that to be the biggest hurdle that we have. What What do you think is the opposing force if you're bringing up the people of Israel, political Israel that's accepted, basically in the ancient Near East as a Standard Oil that they would have in their in their kind of domestic kit, if you will with them what has been the biggest stronghold that stood in your way? I mean, the devil's lettuces, obviously a term that you brought up that brings in the spirituality of it, do you think that people are close minded to it? Because they miss understand the science and the medicine? Or do you think that that's a religious perspective that is skewing how natural law natural medicine should be available to Alabamians?

Marty Schelper 10:48 Well, if you look at the Greek interpretation of the Bible, Tana bosom, k n e, h, HBO S, M, is the all in the Bible that they use.

Trenton Garmon 11:02 Verse 24, is that your perspective?

Marty Schelper 11:05 That's good. That's it. And it's it's, it's actually an old that they use for healing. Where do I think people get off track with it? I think it's been a propaganda machine, a brainwashing machine. And it's a point of educating people that cannabis is a healing plant. And that's one thing the Alabama ramp is trying so hard to do, is to educate the citizens in the state no matter where they are, religiously, that cannabis, something that's very beneficial. And we're just trying to educate them on how it heals the body through the endocannabinoid system.

Trenton Garmon 11:49 Well, good

luck in my prayer God. Lincoln in the Bible, facing people that it is 25% seems to be what the book of Exodus lays out of the holy anointing or but not withstanding, whether someone believes that or does not believe that the studies are there, the medicine and the question of is this valid medicine has been substantiated in the most developed states of the United States, which is what's so concerning about being an Alabama at this time, especially me personally, I mean, I was a Cannabis Patient in the state of Florida. I use now the over the counter, I still consider myself to be a dual resident, but I'm going to Ottawa and walk in accordance where I can with best efforts and best practice. But I agree with you 100%. I disagree, that it's not good medicine. And I do think that it's biblical. And I think that people even if they don't take that extreme of a interpretation from Hi, this is the Greek This is the Hebrew very clear that they have to acknowledge that the studies substantiate the benefits that those who are in the medical field that are promoting our potion, have you seen a big challenge of pushback from fought the big farm companies whenever that's, you know, an interpretation some people take from the book of Revelation that at the end of the age of great merchants would be those who have their pharmacom which is their mixtures and some term some interpretations take it as a potion as whether they translate or call it sorcery. Now, Pharmacopeia is not a bad thing. They're great, wonderful medicines that big farm creates. But are you seeing a push back from Big Pharma and if so articulate for us what that looks like?

Marty Schelper 13:31 We're definitely seeing a big push from Big Pharma. And it's all about profit over lobs. The biggest push that we probably see is for from, and I'm not saying all doctors, and I'm not saying all pharmaceutical companies, but there is a big bush with cancer patients, pain management, the pain management clinics that are out there. The opioid addictions, cannabis is great to remove opioid addiction for people. So we do see a big pushback from pharmaceutical companies because if cannabis is available to people, in people can do something naturally and not be strung out on methadone, Suboxone and some of these other opioids that are just really replacing the other opioids that they were taking. I

Trenton Garmon 14:27 mean, it's just tried to be one thing for another thing. They're really not recovering from their opioid addiction. They're just taking taking something new with cannabis that is non addictive. They can completely healed themselves and their bodies and their chemical dependency from those pharmaceutical drugs. What a wonderful, amazing perspective here so it sounds like for the sake of the streams of commerce, best practice would be to allow for it to be legalized and those companies that have been oppositional, they have them the opportunity to take And consider the product as it is and also the responsibility there are methods and manners in which Big Pharma and other civil operating companies can be held responsible for damages like calls. So if it's promoted and pushed and passed here in February which we pray and hoped that it is with Republican Mike balls bill without encourage you if you are not supportive to do your research and reach out to those who are supportive of medical cannabis, medical marijuana and back republican Mike ball of Huntsville and his push in February to allow for the state to have these 32 dispensaries that will then report back to the state on what's been dispense adverse reactions. It's going to be controlled by Dr. Of This, to me seems to be a great solution for some of those in our state that are suffering of epilepsy and PTSD and other problems as you brought up there. Thank you so much for being with us. Martha. We've got session, part two segment to come in here in just a moment. But we're gonna break for a few commercials. Thank you for joining me and my co host here for the show, Marty Scheffer. We are honored to be sharing with you what our perspective is of natural laws Trenton Garmin live here on I Heart Radio.

Welcome one. Welcome to part two of Trenton Garmin live here with G file news on I Heart Radio. We have got a guest in today as we were talking to those who are just joining us now in segment one that is really making a strong political push and a public awareness push for cannabis. So I want to re welcome as Marty here to the show for part two Miss Morty. It's so great to have you on and to have someone that's like minded and being willing to literally engage in what we do believe as a spiritual battle. And it has of course, medical and legal consequences as well. But over the break, we were talking briefly about some of the medicine and science behind the the reason for the push and you were bringing up an interesting thing that people should know if you don't drink water, you become dehydrated. If you don't have enough vitamin C or vitamin C division, your thyroids are out of whack. Well, they give you some medication for that. But what is this system that a lot of people are not aware exists within their body share with us as a public interest advocate for cannabis. Share with us your understanding of the medicine behind it and the need for this to be something that people are educated as to Okay,

Marty Schelper 18:04 well if you want to go the spiritual route, or you want to go the scientific route either way you want to go. Dr. Raphael matusalem in Israel actually discovered the endocannabinoid system that every mammal has. If God created us, and we have an endocannabinoid system, most of us are walking around cannabinoid deficient, because we're not receiving those endocannabinoids. And there's over 400 cannabinoids in the cannabis plant. And there's something called the entourage effect. And when you receive all of those cannabinoids at one time, your body is receiving something called the entourage effect. Mostly, we're familiar with CBD, which is just canavalia. It's just kind of a dial

Trenton Garmon 18:55 once in the day, amazing point. But let's bring up just the laws of reason and logic here. So this system that you're referring to, and people arguably are not cannibal inefficient at any moment in time, how are they having their endocannabinoid system fed if they don't have any cannabis oil or CBD oil is are there other natural existing fruits, vegetables, other natural ways that we ingest the CBD THC and terpenes and give us your understanding of that?

Marty Schelper 19:29 Well, there definitely our other fruits and vegetables, I mean, lemon tap terpenes in them that's a cannabinoid. As I understand it, there are other things that have cannabinoids, I couldn't list those for you. And I'm sorry that I'm not educated on the ones that

Trenton Garmon 19:47 we get to hear on the legal side of medicine. I just found it fascinating to learn that black pepper lemon time that even chocolate that the effect that people feel after eating chocolate is the same effect. As would be cannabis feeding a terpene system, it just has to be done in balance. But that was, for me a man about

Marty Schelper 20:09 women, women love chocolate.

Trenton Garmon 20:12 So the push that you have now, spiritually matters and for the people having them become aware that these these are not secret worshipers of the devil trying to hurt you with the devil's lettuce. These are people that believe natural medicine and natural law should prevail and that you have an endocannabinoid system and there's no reason to spiritually oppose it or religiously oppose it. Medical medically there's no basis to oppose it. We've talked about the profit side of it, the big pharma industry and opposing it because of their profits potentially being aid into which is illogical because they're still going to be a market player. So share for us in with this push that you have in the public awareness about the endocannabinoid system. And what are your thoughts about it once it is approved? Because it's just a matter of time becoming not just therapeutic and medicinal but an over the counter? Do you see that happening in the next three to five years? Or do you think that we're not even going to see a passing of it?

Marty Schelper 21:20 I definitely think that the compassion act will, it's going to become law. I believe it's going to become law in 2021. Pending COVID. Yeah, I mean, whatever happens with kind of that?

Trenton Garmon 21:31 Well, we're short on time here. I apologize for that. But we have enjoyed you having the time to share with us, Mark, because I know that you're busy your perspective, we'll get you back on to discuss what a ramp is doing to ensure that natural access to medicine is made available to all Alabamians whose children who suffer the epilepsy veterans a PST SD cancer patients can have access to what 37 other states have already acknowledged as medicine. Join us again next week. And I've Reverend clay rushing and talking about liberty in the midst of COVID and freedom of worship. This is Trenton, Garmin with you own I Heart Radio.

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Studio Guest - John Mountz

Chinese Virologist, Li-Meng Yan Claims Coronavirus was "Intentionally" Released. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li-Meng_Yan

https://www.newsweek.com/china-virologist-li-meng-yan-covid-coronavirus-lab-made-kill-me-disappear-1541659

https://www.cnbctv18.com/healthcare/chinese-virologist-claims-covid-19-made-in-wuhan-lab-says-report-6901571.htm

https://nypost.com/2020/09/14/chinese-virologist-posts-report-claiming-covid-19-was-made-in-wuhan-lab/

https://www.baltimoresun.com/coronavirus/sns-nyt-chinese-virologist-covid-19-misinformation-distortions-20200918-kgxjktkl5ne4nhxcfdxmzjxkbm-story.html

Week 5, Part 2

Legal Docket Reporting - Trump Election Challenges

Studio Guest - John Mountz

The Evidence. 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-threatens-lawsuits-court-challenges-hitting-dead-ends/story?id=74388659

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54724960

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-legal-challenges-explained-075b2ef6f75e9dd3026d54fc38b81920

https://www.businessinsider.com/donor-25m-group-trying-find-election-fraud-wants-refund-report-2020-11

Transcript

Trenton Garmon 0:17 All right, welcome one Welcome all to G file radio. This is Trenton, Garmon live. I've got with me as a studio guest today the wonderful phenomenal employee of I Heart Radio, John Mounts. And we're going to be talking about the questions that are still not fully answered and being reported on with regards to the release of the virus. And what is the source of the release? Whoo, hot, of course, is the area that I don't think has been disputed geographically as being the original place from which this virus that has shaken the world was released from, but in September, which surprisingly, just died on the vine, it seems, but I think is going to have new life breathed into it. This question of was the release intentional? Or was it negligent, arose? And I believe was answered. So for us as Americans, we the people, there are some questions about corporate America. And their involvement with big farm being represented on the global scale now is probably the largest revenue agent now, of the of the financial systems, they are receiving more money than any other sphere of business and sciences and of really in any type of industry. So what type of ethical obligations are our world leaders going to have moving forward, whether this virus was released intentionally or not released intentionally, because clearly, this is a very different situation than prior pandemics. We have, arguably a manmade virus that has been released and it has shaken the world to the extent that each one of us is now a purchaser. In the vaccine industry. 150 million vaccines are going to be pushed and promoted that are not inherently bad or inherently good, but are for sure something that we're going to be happy to answer for ourselves, do we believe we should take one or family take one, but in the big picture, side of things on the big picture side of things? What do we do as a people to ensure that this does not happen again? And how do we process process out the information that we do have the information that says I came for a particular area now we've got labs and a scientist, a biologist, putting out information that says she knows it to have been intentionally released? So the global ethics is what we're talking about today? I know that is a mouthful and something difficult to get your mind around. But as john here is with us with me Pitts and back and forth his question, john, what are your thoughts? Does it make a difference in your mind, as a way to people voter is someone that's going to ask government to protect us or life liberty, the pursuit of happiness to secure those God given rights? Is it is it going to be a question in your mind of what they should do following this that changes if it was intentional? Or do you think it doesn't matter one way or the other, whether it was intentional or negligent,

John Mounts 3:24 printed into absolutely matters, I go back to something that happened. I don't know if you remember this or not remember, the September 11 attack in 2011, on the MV Ghazi. And they immediately came out the government, our government came out and immediately said that was done. Because there was an uprising and uprising because of a movie that was made. And people were very upset about this movie. And that's the reason why they attacked the the embassy. And that turned out to be completely false. But they got ahead, they got ahead of it. And they put that propaganda, I will call it propaganda out there to kind of quell any sort of questions about Wait a minute, maybe somebody was asleep at the switch at the State Department. Maybe we made some mistakes on our end, they wanted to go ahead and put that out there. And I see the exact same thing happening here. The Chinese government said, Well, we don't want people questioning our motives. We don't want a question. Let's go ahead and say there was a, something happened in the wet market. You remember the original story, something about it was first it was a bat. And then it was well, no, it wasn't a bat. It was a snake. It was eaten by a bat. And they said well, no. And they had and they went back and forth about all these different animals that they might have been selling. But it turned out that was all fake. They said, Okay, well, true. It was a wet market in Wu Han was just so happened to be right next to this lab. So it makes me wonder, did the Chinese government know all along that this thing came out of that lab?

Trenton Garmon 4:42 Good question.

John Mounts 4:43 And then if so, if so, did they know they think that was a mistake that there was some sloppy guy working in the lab. We just accidentally contaminated himself and then and, you know, began community spread there and we won or or did they create the virus there in the lab? And I mean spread to the people, because it just so happens that Wu Han is the center of rail transport in China. So that will be a great place for something to start and quickly spread throughout the country.

Trenton Garmon 5:13 Good point, john.

John Mounts 5:14 And so I and these are all questions like, I don't have any answers. I don't have any proof. But these are coincidences that I think are too coincidental. And so did China have the intent that we would, we will manipulate the global market, which they're a participant in there, never forget that they're, they're a very, they're a developing country. And they're a very big economic power all at the same time. And it would be in their best interest if the entire world caught some horrible virus that then slowed down the world's economy. And if that's the case, then maybe China should be culpable. Maybe there should be some penalty that I'm talking to economic penalty

Trenton Garmon 5:50 that would go to them Sure. Before the United Nations

John Mounts 5:53 that Yeah, and I don't know what the body is. And when to use example of

Trenton Garmon 5:57 the spyware that people get on their computer. Many times, those companies have been sued. And it's been determined that depending on the type of virus or what particular version that some of the software companies themselves, we're working with, knew that these type of computer viruses were going to be and actively took part in releasing them on the internet, if you will, and sending it. So here we have something that's similar in economics and the question of ethics with big farm, the United States government, China, what do we do when we're forced as consumers to buy 150 million vaccines from what could have been an intentionally released virus? So john, I think you are right on point marches when we first of course, became aware publicly that there was a question of, Hey, is there something that has been released? it's going to affect us in pockets are an areas or is it going to affect us nationally? And here we've got this article in September, several that have been released when by way of the New York Post. Now they're by way of the New York Times. Oddly enough, the New York Post article puts out that the virologist is not debunking any market climate is bringing forth truth. She wasn't seeking to say this is accurate or inaccurate. She's saying I worked it's fact testimony witness testimony, she came out with no agenda whatsoever. It does happen to default, the bond market theory that it was released negligently by way of this Wu Han fishmarket. But clearly, the truth is if she was working on those projects, that allowed for the virus to be developed and is reporting now to the news outlets that are willing to talk with her collusion Tucker Carlson that this was intentionally made, we have to be as a we the people and we have to be as consumers concerned about that. She went on in her article to say not only was it intentionally released, but the laboratory creation of this Coronavirus, is convenient and can be accomplished in approximately six months. So at any point in time, there can be a laboratory in some negative woods, some corner of the desert, some and Arctic place that can create a virus that can bring the world to its knees and force us to become consumers. If we don't elect to not take a vaccine or if we elect dude to take a vaccine one way or the other. We're consumers as taxpayers because we're purchasing this from Big Pharma. So I do think, john, you're right, I think it matters. And I think the initial report should be drawn into question about the market place. And is it as we've talked about before, the two factor, global situation that we see ourself, and we see a major biological, biological, economic weapon that's been used, you can call it a weapon of mass destruction, however you choose to articulate it. That is what has occurred. And that is reality. You can also discuss at the same time, that this economically crippling instrument that was released a weapon of mass destruction from China from Wu Han, ties in big farm and the farmer, pharmacy industries incentives. So that's a hard balance for us as a we the people to take into consideration. And I'm curious, john, if you are a consumer, and you are a taxpayer, and you're told that this six month cycle could occur at any point in time, are you going to continue in as a way that people taxpayer to fill at rest and fill easy about the government's ability and that type of world to protect us? Are you going to demand of the United Nations that any type of virus man made and couldn't be released has got to be totally wiped off the planet. As far as operations goes, those those types of laboratories and the potential that something like this can happen again, that is a global weapon of mass destruction with monetary incentives behind it. It's something that I think we the people need to have address or legislators. What are your thoughts with that kind of mouthful, john?

John Mounts 10:25 Well, Trenton, I have to say, first of all, I would never want to hang my hopes on the United Nations on being able to affect any sort of positive change. This is the same united nations who wants to say that America is responsible for all the climate change, and they're going to penalize us but China, we're going to consider them a developing nation. So we're not going to penalize them that same. If they come up with policies like that on one issue, I have no reason to believe they wouldn't come up with the same type issues or policies on another so I don't think United Nations is necessarily the best way to go. But definitely there needs to be a remedy. I hold my hands here something you can hear crackling, the sitting in the in the studio here. These are hand wipes. These are 75% alcohol disinfect, it's really funny. He's actually they say you can tell where this comes from. It says your anti disinfectant wipes now. Trident. What what's a disinfectant wipe it would disinfect, right? Sure. So what's an anti disinfecting wipe?

Trenton Garmon 11:21 Sounds like a terminology issue.

John Mounts 11:23 Exactly. Like say it wasn't translated, right? So you turn the package over and you can't help but notice it. Where did this come from? Well, it was distributed by someplace with a lot of cues and x's in its name. And it came from some other place with a bunch of Z's, x's and Q's, and they've all in China. So China has created the virus, and then they're also sending us selling to us all the solutions, the mask that I wear, it was made in China, everything we have to help to help protect ourselves from this thing came from China. So I'm very skeptical of the of China's altruistic Oh, we had no idea we it was just a horrible mistake, because I don't think they have yet the country has yet to admit that they had any sort of hand in this other than it just originated somehow in whoo ha, that's all they're willing to say. And even that, certainly a

Trenton Garmon 12:09 rabbit trail path. Yeah. So there is economic incentive. I think that you are dead on with that. And that is a major concern. The question to me take itself even deeper with the information that Trump put out when he was going to war with them economically, it would make you then question, this response. Did we take too hard of a handed perspective with China with regards to trade because, you know, clearly it was released from that area, and that we'd get this quarter the New York Post Chinese viral ologists posts report claiming that COVID-19 was made in Wu Han lab. This is September the 14th of 2020. A Chinese virologist alleged COVID-19 was manmade in the lab. It was released and reported on a Monday and she says this backs up her explosive climb. So she was working with a team is a research researcher of Hong Kong School of Public Health, and has sat down and interviewed literally with Tucker Carlson and had these reports put out through the New York Times through the New York Post. So I think you're right, I think what we see is big farm, and we see big government in China is a huge government. I mean, there's no more populated country than India, but China is right there behind them. So it is a global power that has interest in the markets not just pharmaceutical but as you brought up to in the the hygiene market, you know, industrial hygiene, ensuring that your home's domestic hygiene and places of business are clean. And that is very very spot on as to the concern that we should have is we the people, if you've been injured This is a break from the content here just for a moment we are a team of lawyers would be willing to help you as well. And of course, there's various types of injury COVID-19 at this point is not a type of claim that we are processing evaluating. But if you've been out in the middle of the pandemic and you've been involved in a car wreck State Farm claims are something that we can help you with. Again, if you've been listening and an injured in a car wreck and would like to connect with us, and you have a State Farm claim pending, open climb feel welcome to call us 855 99 Trent or if you just been injured and have an open the climb with State Farm we'll help you as well. 855 99 trick we're going to come back segment two here and talk through the Trump election. Global ethics has been the topic this morning. The virus was an attempt to release non intention release and how close is too close for Big Pharma and government. Thank you for joining us. This has been Trenton, Garmin live. We'll be back in a moment.

Welcome, welcome. Welcome all to G file radio. This is Trenton, Garmin, or Trenton Garmin lab. I've got john, one of the phenomenal ahart Studio engineers, co host mounts here for the show, we're gonna be talking through the Trump election challenge. In a segment I've just entitled The evidence, because these are crucial questions that each one of us as we the people who want to have our votes counted, should be thinking through. And is this a time for it to go to the Supreme Court? And I think it is. And I think john may or may not be in agreement. JOHN, tell us what your thoughts are. Is this a time for the the challenge to be taken all the way to the Supreme Court and for Trump to force that extent of a scrutiny of the process?

John Mounts 16:09 Well, Trenton, you're the lawyer, you know, better than I would, but I think we all knew that it was going to continue on to that level, because there's that he hasn't had much success in lower courts. And so it's going to come to the Supreme Court. If you remember the election of 2000. It ended up in the Supreme Court, too. But that was a little bit different of a circumstance because we were dealing with ballots from one part of the country, you know, it was just Miami Dade that they were looking at. This is something that's stretching across, let's say we're looking at Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia. Let's see who else Wisconsin. There's so many states that the ballots in Nevada, Arizona, there's so many states where the ballots, there's a lot of questions there and his legal team has attempted to try and prove that there has been we'll just say irregularities and every one of these places so far,

Trenton Garmon 16:59 I don't think the regulator's I've called him flat out whether it would be if the allegations are true, but yeah, for sure. It is a systematic question whether or not there is election fraud, voter fraud. Those are the two things that the Trump campaign is challenging course, the two different types of voter fraud would be an individual and individual particular circumstance, systematic would be that there are a group of people, they are systematically implementing methods to defraud the secretary of state who will be certifying the election. And I think this is a perfect proper time for this to be taken up to the Supreme Court. JOHN, I think you're right, because not only are we looking at the question of the integrity of an election, yes, Miami Dade, and that was an important one to have evaluated, but this does deal with the entire nation. Yes, the presidency. So it's going to deal with entire nation? Of course, it's a global question as well, for we the people who are just global citizens, because whoever it is, it is leading the United States as the commander in chief of the person with the biggest stick in the room. And the United States Army, you know, is certainly something go army beat Navy, that I'm grateful that we have to defend our rights and our liberties as we perceive them to be. But I do think, john, you're right. I think this is, as any case, should and is duty bound, when there are challenges to fact disputes or challenges as to questions of law. I do think it should be taken all the way up to the Supreme Court. And what are your thoughts with that? Seeing that it's more likely than not going to be the route that the Trump campaign takes one thing I do find interesting. That seems to matter. But these findings that are adverse to him, ultimately are not going to make a difference if the Supreme Court looks at the totality of the circumstances, and takes into consideration this Dominion voting system, which is very different than having to prove voter fraud that is of a significant nature, that would change the results of the election. That's the two prong test and the segment that we have now called the evidence there, they're challenging Trump by disinformation and putting out there that Trump has baseless claims. And I think, john, it should go up to the Supreme Court. And the reason I titled the segment the election is because if you look the evidence is because if you look at the election, there is evidence over 100 affidavits in this thing. This is something that affects not just Republicans, but it affects Democrats. It affects every voter, if the integrity of our election and the process of choosing the most powerful man in the world can be tainted electronically. And then of course, systematically and individually, which would be the systematic and individual voter fraud as well. Was electronic fraud. And that is a huge, huge concern. And we need to put it under the microscope of the Supreme Court's pervy. So john, what are your thoughts with the Dominion aspect of it? Because we talked about the systematic talked about the individual the voter fraud, but there is a systematic concern today that has never existed before these modern times. And so, with that said, I was a part of some 2017 US Senate challenges that were similar, but tell me your opinion, just with that information, which what should be evaluated with the most level of scrutiny the most important issue presented to the court? Should it be the Dominion? Should it be the systematic obviously, individual voter fraud is not going to make a big impact in the US election unless you can show significant numbers like the ballot set had been mailed in and then the people showed up and subotic vote, but we'd get you checked off as having received a mail in ballot, which was a provisional ballot, there's 17,000 of those in one jurisdiction. That's the evidence. But what are your thoughts as far as the Trump team strategy to get it there? I mean, you're, you're, you're an engineer, studio engineer, very intelligent man, not an attorney. But you have a perspective that sometimes attorneys and judges Miss as a we the people as a citizen, what are your thoughts on what the Supreme Court should be looking at? And, you know, what are what are your predictions as to what might happen?

John Mounts 21:28 So I don't have a crystal ball. I don't know that I could predict around him. But I will say that some of the things that Sidney Powell has brought forth brought to light about Dominion are very troubling, the idea that it was created by Hugo Chavez to basically there was an election, and it didn't go his way. And he said, Well, we're not going to have that again. So they said, we're going to create our own voting system. And that way, we'll be able to control the way the voting goes. And that was this Dominion system that they created for him to allow him to manipulate the vote,

Trenton Garmon 21:57 then the Creator, I think that kind of got her sidetracked because he's such a controversial character. But the point is, it doesn't matter who creates the software and who designs it. There is the ability for one company to have a contract, and they do have a contract. And from my research in 2017, I'm pretty sure over 95% of all voting that's done electronically is done through this one company that's up in Nebraska. And we had some election experts that had the very same pattern that you see today, when there's a distinct difference all the way up into the 8090 percentile of votes counted in one, one candidate being ahead of the other in the flip of the switch occurs. So you think with the dominion, regardless of the political origin of it, you think it is something that we should have scrutinized to its entity, you consider that that's evidence, right? I mean, it's electronic, it's digital, it's going to have to be extracted, they're going to be servers that are going to need to be marshaled, which I think are being marshaled. But how much more evidence do you need, then to have 100, plus affidavits, 17,000 provisional ballots for the media to start reporting on that? And then when it does make it up to the Supreme Court, which is where Trump's going to take it? What are your thoughts on that jaundice? Should they be pushing in reporting both sides of the store? Are we missing that? And do you think the Dominion issue is is going to be the primary thing that Trump looks at to challenge the validity of the of the certifications?

John Mounts 23:32 I think that it's going to be two pronged and I think that part of it's going to be dominion. And yes, it doesn't matter how the software was made. I mean, it kind of matters. But that's behind us. Now, the thing that is worrisome, is it

Trenton Garmon 23:44 because it brings into question then political ties as well. Well, you That's it, that's an important, but Sidney Powell was, I think, oddly kind of this disjoined from the administration, by Trump very peculiar over that comment primarily, which I find to be maybe a little petty, but either way, the truth of it is, if the Democratic Party and I'm a I'm a Catholic, libertarian now, I'm not coming at this. I grew up Yellow Dog democrat and became a Republican, for the issues that are found to be important to be represented the marketplace with real life, pro life, pro traditional natural law, have some very distinct differences and opinions of most Republicans, though, because I do think we have to be very careful with radical Protestantism in our state and our nation. But point being that, yeah, there were ties to the democratic party that made it very clear that these types of things back in 2017 2018 were something they were already aware of, by way of filings. And I'd say maybe just off topic, but the Hugo Chavez concern that Sidney Powell had and who they may have been linked to I'd haven't reported or investigated or really been thought through the origins of that, but bringing up dominion, the Democratic Party has filed actions before and did as I understand it. 2017 asking that all hard ballot to be kept, because they were concerned that electronic manipulation could occur. And so now they play coy to it. And again, I'm a libertarian, not Republican or Democrat. But I see the the republicans concern that it's not being reported on and there doesn't seem to be any honoring of the reality that Trump has a right as to his voters, all the millions of voters that supported him to have their vote evaluated, through the process be invited to ensure that it's a one for one each voter is voting, and each voter is only being counted one time. What are your thoughts? Would that knowledge thinking through? Well, we know digital manipulation exists? Do you think the Democratic Party has manipulated software? And do you think that there's a point person that you can say, and that's the proof?

John Mounts 26:05 I don't know. You could say the Democratic Party. So I think somebody and the question is, who is the somebody who we need to point the finger at? I don't know who to point out, but somebody did something because this is too irregular? Well, the

Trenton Garmon 26:17 evidence is the segment that we're shoving off of from here, the evidence is out there and there clearly is the need to have the scrutinize all the way up to the US Supreme Court. And I hope and pray that people who hear this stay at peace about the democratic process, but God Bless America, let it be challenged. Thank you for joining us. Trenton Garman live is your source for civil rights news and legal docket.

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Trenton Garmon 0:13 welcome welcome welcome welcome one Welcome all to G file radio your civil rights news and legal docket report. Coming to you Dave from I Heart Radio studios. This is Trenton Garman attorney and I've got a guest co host here with me. JOHN wants to say hello, John Todd.

John Todd 0:36 Welcome to news ready 1055 w e RC on this beautiful Saturday afternoon.

How fun is it to be discussing things that are relevant civil rights issues and cases that have been filed that pertain to your everyday life. Of course, public interest is something near and dear to my heart as an attorney, we're gonna be talking today about a very hot topic that involves not just big government, but big pharma. And the question kind of boils down to this young, are you gonna take the COVID-19 vaccine?

I don't know. I don't know if I'm gonna take it or not. Because I always get my flu shot. So it seems like a natural thing, I should want it. But at the same time, it's a brand new thing. I don't know if I'm excited about putting a brand new thing in me right off the bat, maybe let a few other people do it first, you know,

so you're saying brand new was rushed through, I guess five times faster. Trump has boasted about months. And that's a good thing or a bad thing. But they broke record speed having to prove before any other drug really 20% of the time period for vaccine has been proved before. So you're saying you don't know. But you take your annual and you take your seasonal shots as recommended. Is that correct?

Absolutely. I always do. I do believe in vaccines. I do think that they work. I but I at the same time. I know they're made by man and man makes mistakes. So I'm not I don't do it blindly.

Okay. Well, the net, the New England Journal for medicines, but what they're referring to is the vaccine nationalism, which is a real big push. We've gone quarter this article from 200 vaccine candidate companies down to five, we've had 300 million order doses ordered. Court operation warp speed. That's the goal. 150 have been paid for. So how many Americans we have at this time? Yeah.

Ah, pretty close to 300,000 plus four, well, plus 400

million, I believe you mean three out of eight? I

think we're over. Yeah, sorry. Yeah. Nice to get population. Jefferson County. Yeah. Yeah, about 300 million.

So we're about to see some major shifts and changes in public health and how its administered. So if you were to take the vaccine, john, would you do it at a private clinic? Or would you be willing to go to lock a checkpoint, a military checkpoint? If those are put out?

I'm hoping we don't have to do it at military checkpoints. I hope it doesn't come to that in this country. But you know, I probably do it just like I did a flu shot and I go down to my local pharmacy, and I'd have the pharmacist to give it to me in my arm if that's how its administered. The big five companies

modera Oxford University working with S 10, Zurich, Johnson and Johnson, Merck and Pfizer are the ones that have been approved, those four, get a $2.2 billion contract that's gone out. So these companies have a huge interest in the question really boils down to, do you have informed consent to take the vaccine? If you were to john, do Google and internet research on the COVID-19 vaccine? What would be your thoughts about finding good adequate material?

Well, you definitely want stuff that comes from say, the, the FDA or somebody, not just the company because the company can always toot their own horn. So I would much rather have something from somebody who is at least they seem like they're independent.

Do you think the companies are independent enough to have the 20% record speed? Is that for you something that's concerning? Are you thinking they probably are independent enough that the studies are trustworthy? Do you think there's been any tanking because of the rush to the studies or No,

I'd like to believe there hasn't been I'd like to believe that just because we work fast doesn't mean we worked well. There's a lot of things we do quickly that we do. Well, you know, it doesn't isolate Sara Lee mean sloppy.

Sure, we'd get us news is put out what to know about the timing and distribution of Coronavirus vaccines. If these two vaccines get approval talking about two that have already been pushed through one by Pfizer and one by modera. Emergency youth have use authorization that could be up to 40 million doses may be available in December. In this attorney Trenton Garman talking with john guest co host today about the COVID-19 vaccine and do we have informed consent adequately available for us as consumers and patients and then we're going to get into in segment to the right to redress. JOHN has said he probably would take the vaccine hoaxes not going to be stuck in his arm at some military post but of course The Trump administration has said the military may be administering it. There are contracts that the government has entered into with both CVS and Walgreens that have been reported on. So there's going to be distribution sites, at probably locations. But here, according to US News and World Report, there's 40 million doses that are probably going to be delivered starting in December. And this is from the National Director of the Institute of Health, Francis Collins, who told see in in that this week, so john, you then see, you know, we're creeping up into December, spikes are going up. And of course, the COVID. And vaccines are the question now, what are your thoughts about not just the preventative measures, but about those who actually get COVID? In the asymptomatic? Right, are we rushing into judgment and the change of how we treat an individual who's who's obtained a virus? I mean, we see a national scale. Now on a push for vaccines, and we've got to have more, we got to hot, asymptomatic, right in the low mortality rate lower than the seasonal flu. What are your thoughts of that? Some people are saying that there's a major ethical concern. If you take an artificially created virus, and you allow vaccine companies to then benefit from it being released, what are your thoughts that

will trend it is concerning in that this is the first time we've ever seen an illness where we've said so quickly that everyone has to line up at everyone has to be vaccinated right now, there are a lot of things out there that we've eradicated through vaccinations, smallpox, things like that. But I don't think it was done quite this quickly on this order.

Sure. So you're concerned about the the time of it, but I guess you nailed the wood to the to the stud there by bringing up the reality that this is a very unique situation, since we have a global pandemic that was artificially created. And now we have big government with big farm that's given us an artificial, if you will solution to the problem that they created. What does that say to you, john, with regards to the conflict of interest, some of these agencies may have been approved, and then the vaccines and the medications that billions of our taxpayer dollars are being spent on this is modera, land of the US COVID-19 contract worth up to 8 billion? What does that say to you as a consumer if you've got a company that's receiving $8 billion, and there was another company that just happenstance to have released or intentionally released the virus that now $8 billion of our taxpayer money is going to vaccinate against what are your thoughts with the ethics of the FDA and these big pharma companies? And just this new question that we see in public health?

What's written it does kind of make me wonder, I borrow a phrase from ross perot used to always say that chicken is garden, no, the fox is guarding the henhouse, where the chickens. So I am a little worried that is the same company that is, is prescribing this essentially for everyone is the one who made it, you know, you do kind of wonder if there is, as you said, a conflict of interest. Let me go back a little bit. I didn't fully understand. Explain from a legal standpoint, because I am not. You're the you're the lawyer here. What do you mean by when you say informed consent?

to great question. So, medically speaking, a professional supposed to be sharing face to face, that's the standard the Pennsylvania Supreme Court has put out for us and the Alabama Supreme Court is given similar findings fan vs. Smith, which for those of y'all who were fans of the code of Alabama, that's 479, southern section 1150. But it says there's these two elements that have to be in place, the physician has to have the patient, consider all material risk in the process. So it can be in writing, the patient can sign that way. But I believe the standard of care would require it also to be followed up even for the state of Alabama, with an in person appointment. The second prong is showing that a reasonably prudent patient with all the characteristics that should be considered and risk should be considered, has declined after that, that patients had informed consent. So with segment one the right to informed consent with of course of these vaccines, I don't know that the medical professionals who are going to be administering them can really give those those people even the bare minimum. And I obviously have issue with the great hindrance that we have as plaintiff lawyers advocating for people with the right to redress. We'll talk about that summons segment too. If you have a medical malpractice case or nursing home injury do feel welcome to contact us. 855 99 Trent is the number that's 855 99 trend, we can help you with nursing home falls, we can help even neglect surgical breaches by physicians, any of those types of medical issues that you would like for us to consider and to consider be presented to a jury. We would be honored to help you with that Again, that's 855989 Trent. But great question, john. I think that we see a signal nificant difference today in what the courts are willing to accept. And we have wonderful courts in United States of America, very competent judges. And I literally have never questioned the integrity of not one judge that I've stood before. Now, I've disputed with them on a lot of the areas of the law, but never questioned their integrity. And I've never questioned their credentials. We have wonderful, amazing judges. But we also have a lot of lobbyists. And that's the issue here, but the right to redress in a COVID-19 vaccine. So claims already are limited the Vaccine Injury court, but this is going to be an entirely different situation, because we're going to have 150 million people that are going to be receiving a vaccine, and are not able to go to the US federal district court. They're not able to file for redress if there's an injury in the Vaccine Injury court. But they are actually limited to basically an artificially created body, a organization that is not one you can appeal. It's called the countermeasures Injury Compensation Program. So we may see some significant problems with not just the logistical administration, but also the responses of people who do have injuries and encephalitis injection site problems. So more to come on that if you've got questions regarding a Vaccine Injury call 855 99 tripped. This is G file radio bringing to us civil rights news and legal document reporting.

Trenton Garmon 11:51 Welcome, welcome. Welcome, welcome.

John Todd 11:53 One Welcome all to G file radio. This is attorney Trent and Garmin, we're talking all things vaccine today. Got john, a guest hosts in here with me, and we're gonna be discussing the right to redress received a very unique, unique diamond America with probably 150 plus million people that will be receiving a medical product, a vaccine in the near future. We read earlier, a recent report that came out that up to 40 million may be administered in December. So john and i are discussing what that looks like when you have not just those that could be injured, but for those who will be injured. How are we going to address and redress damages? And are there limitations that our courts would take up our legislators should take up in advance that will make a difference in the lives of those who are injured because I think we're facing a very, very compromising time for national public health because of the inability to actually get redress more than likely for some of these cases. But first, let's talk john, just briefly about what are your perspectives? As a studio manager, studio engineer, and obviously, you've got some legal experience as being in this world? But what are your thoughts? And what would you think if you were injured because of a vaccine? Where would you go? What would you think your rights are? And, again, do you plan on taking the vaccine?

I think I probably I probably will, but I won't be the first person. And I guess I hope and and you know, you They always said, what do they say about you know, you put one hand, hope one hand and how's the rest that go? But I don't know that I'm really excited about it. Because there are there are scary parts of taking something brand new, you know, it's just like, you don't want to be the first who's the first guy got on an airplane? Well, not the Wright brothers. But the first guy got on a commercial airplane, who's the first person who drove in a car at a high rate of speed, you always wonder about putting yourself in those positions. So I don't know that I want to be the guinea pig. Now the good thing is this has been tested on people, but even still, we don't have the longitudinal studies to say what it does a year out five years, 10 years out. And we've seen all these these cases where people are suing five and 1015 years after medical treatment was provided. And it turns out that medical treatment wasn't was ill advised. Sure. So I think that's the reason why you do wonder, Well, what what do I do? And if they if the government mandates every American get this thing, then does every American suit well, who I don't know, that's I guess why you're asking about redress. Who do we redress? Who do we sue if this thing you know, takes a turn for the worse? Sure.

Well, the countermeasures Injury Compensation Program is a government Craig program by the Department of Health and Human Sciences that is supposed to bring redress and relief. But the problem with this is it exists outside our legal system. So we've just now had our US government, big government with big farm, approve literally billions of dollars, up to $8 billion contract with one of the pharmaceutical manufacturers and we'd get a specialist circumstance and I understand the pandemic and I get the need for public health and I get the need for decisions to be made. But we're discussing the right to redress. And are we as consumers about to have a untested litigated or in litigate a bowl product pushed upon us? And yes, there has been test done within them, the clinical settings, and there's been test done within various distribution matters, how it would get out, how is it able to be sustained as a live virus, but there have not been litigation test, in years of I would argue, vaccines to the extent that the American people are entitled, that's part of the problem of the Vaccine Injury courts. And here, this drugs gonna be pushed upon each one of us Americans to make a decision as to whether we're going to take the vaccine. And we're not even we're not even entitled to the right to redress or the Vaccine Injury court or through the federal district court, which is where it should be to begin with so juries can make a decision. But as you think through the the question of are you going to take the vaccine, do Be mindful that you will be limited to the countermeasures Injury Compensation Program. So we've got a drug that has been pushed through five times faster than most quickly approved vaccine in history. And we are about to see a pool of people, including basically every living and breathing American be recommended to receive it. So with that said, john, again, for those who are injured, how are we going to address and redress the damages? What are your thoughts? Does that sound to you like something is we the people that are paying taxes or living as Americans are entitled to God given rights that we the people are happy with? Or should we really be bringing some governmental questions and scrutiny by way the people of the approval process and of the reality that we have given billions of dollars to an industry, that is, in fact, the very same industry that dropped the virus on us? It's similar that spyware question of how in the world is it that each one of these companies know how to take this virus off of my computer? Well, lo and behold, they've created the virus that they're paying, asking you to pay them to take off of your computer? So what are your thoughts with that, now that we dissect that and kind of look at it, john, we've got, again, the vaccine that's been created by Big Pharma of 200. lobbyists, if you will, lobbying companies for the contract, they call it down to five. And those five have been agreed to, in agreements in written agreements and funding promises have been agreed to pay been paid billions of dollars, and we're not going to have the right that doesn't look like to a good faith, challenging of the clinical studies, and a good faith challenging to legitimate injury clients. So what are your thoughts with that? Is that does it still ring a bell with you that? Yes, and I'm not trying to convince you? No, and I'm not trying to convince you. Yes, it's like the vaccine, I'm just kicking around the consequences of repercussions for each individual, if it's not a safe product, or for that particular person, it was a safe product, but their body genetically had an adverse response. Does that change your mind as far as whether you'd still be willing to be vaccinated?

Can I actually back up? And I look at this not even so much from a biologic standpoint, just yet, I look at it actually, from a fundamentally legal standpoint, and the founding documents, and we have a right I believe in this country for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You look at Liberty, and what is what are we able to do as free citizens, sovereign citizens? How much do say Do we have over our own body? You know, I'm a firm believer in the whole I have the right to swing my fist, so long as doesn't contact your nose. I guess the question is the the thinking is, well, just by me walking around by my mere presence, I run the risk of spreading this thing to somebody else. So the question is, how much of that is on me as a citizen and why the government needs to tell me what to do? I look at it like great constitution apart.

We were talking earlier, just to kind of chime in here where you're with regard to the right to liberty, we were talking earlier about the pandemic that was in the early 1900s, and how that's fundamentally different than what we have now. And where does the end of that spiral? Where does it occur back then, it was a mutation of a virus that ended up you know, manifesting like the flu what today we've got a very similar situation, but the method, the manner the origination of it was from a lab. So here we run into big government, what's supposed to be strict scrutiny and oversight, but we've got a product push through five times faster than any other product that's been pushed through you're gonna have the entire general population being told as he's brought up that they need to be vaccinated and there is a law that would say constitutionally Speaking in certain times, the government can transcend that natural God given right that you have to religion, and to believe that it's a religious issue for you to take a potion, a chemical compound or anything near and dear to that top of a description into your body. And so you'd make a religious exemption. But there are cases that would say in the United States of America, you can be forced to take that vaccine. So if you decided you were not going to take the vaccine, john, what would you do if you were told that it was going to be a violation of law stations got calls before by police who've said, Hey, we're not going to enforce this mask and take people to jail like your reported but responses? Well, we didn't report it. We just quoted what your leader said. So there's a lot of confusion going on out there. If you were to face that ethical decision as a citizen, to disobey your government, would you if you fundamentally believed it was unsafe? Would you tell your government no to the extent of being jailed? Would you tell your government no to the extent of being fine? What are your thoughts?

That's an interesting question. And let's suppose there is a fine much like with the ACA, where there was a fine if you didn't go out and purchase health insurance or like your you get fine. If you don't have insurance on your car, I would think that this thing is in its heart unconstitutional, because we have never before had a situation where you can be required to pay a fine like that, for not receiving a treatment, I guess they could make a bar you from certain institutions, they can borrow from school, they can say your kid can't go to school if your kid doesn't get this thing. Sure, you know, so maybe that's how they would pursue it. But I don't know how they would legally require it of you.

I don't think they legally can. Of course, there's things that are done that are held to be unconstitutional all the time that you know, we're actually done. And then they had to be challenged. But I think constitutionally speaking, they're able to require us but I do not think if it was challenged, and the Supreme Court really have their minds open to the concept of life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, the same rights that we arguing Roe v. Wade, that we have a right for someone to not tell us what we can and cannot do with our body? I think if you extend that to the question of mandatory vaccines, I think that you can safely rest in a god given right to be told, hey, you're going to take this and us respond. No, I'm not. And so I agree. The issue then becomes though, if we're considered to be in a state of pandemic, and we have a globally released virus, does the government up the ante does it declare a biological war? If they did, then I think that there would be even weaker questions that could be drawn from religious exemption but as they are now I don't think it's constitutional pandemic to force someone in response to an artificially created back artificially created virus to have a vaccine forced consumerism without the route of redress. This is Trenton Garman. If you have a medical malpractice or injury dealing with a vaccine, Phil Welcome to call us at Garmin associates. 855 99 Trent 855 99 Trent thank you for joining us again with G file radio. We are your civil rights news and legal docket reports.

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