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					<description><![CDATA[Welcome to Grrl on Grrl episode 32, featuring Lisa Mungo of metal band He Whose Ox is Gored and hardcore band Fucked and Bound.

Since the interview, Lisa's other band--who we talk about but not name in this episode--Fucked and Bound, announced the release of their first album Suffrage. We also talk about Lisa's expectations moving to Seattle and what she ultimately found there, how the city can foster the adventures of a newer band who's still learning the ropes, and then a bit on her responsibility as a fellow woman to speak against misogyny while also balancing the need to ignore it at times. ]]></description>
		
		
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<itunes:summary>Welcome to Grrl on Grrl episode 32, featuring Lisa Mungo of metal band He Whose Ox is Gored and hardcore band Fucked and Bound.

Since the interview, Lisa&apos;s other band--who we talk about but not name in this episode--Fucked and Bound, announced the release of their first album Suffrage. We also talk about Lisa&apos;s expectations moving to Seattle and what she ultimately found there, how the city can foster the adventures of a newer band who&apos;s still learning the ropes, and then a bit on her responsibility as a fellow woman to speak against misogyny while also balancing the need to ignore it at times. </itunes:summary>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2018 14:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Welcome to Grrl on Grrl's very first BONUS EPISODE, featuring deleted clips from Emily Williams' interview (which you can listen to here)! In this bonus episode, we'll talk about Emily's changing psychosexuality pre- and post-transition, how science can help or hinder the exploration of gender and sexuality, and general science talk.]]></description>
		
		
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<itunes:summary>Welcome to Grrl on Grrl&apos;s very first BONUS EPISODE, featuring deleted clips from Emily Williams&apos; interview (which you can listen to here)! In this bonus episode, we&apos;ll talk about Emily&apos;s changing psychosexuality pre- and post-transition, how science can help or hinder the exploration of gender and sexuality, and general science talk.</itunes:summary>

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					<description><![CDATA[Emily Williams and I talk about her music project Axis Evil--some weird time signature drum stuff, some weird guitar stuff,  a sitar she bought in India, along with some very, very personal lyrics; navigating her trans-ness and her woman-ness thru the lenses of her science and engineering background at her blog Genderpunk.net; and being a token minority.

The interview was recorded early 2017, when she had just recently released her album City of God. Since then, she's released a second album Light Me Up and Love the Bomb in September of 2017, and she continues to release new material.]]></description>
		
		
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<itunes:summary>Emily Williams and I talk about her music project Axis Evil--some weird time signature drum stuff, some weird guitar stuff,  a sitar she bought in India, along with some very, very personal lyrics; navigating her trans-ness and her woman-ness thru the lenses of her science and engineering background at her blog Genderpunk.net; and being a token minority.

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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 06:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I met Danielle at the SD Women Music Industry night last year and was intrigued with her work running a DIY record label in Savannah, Georgia where she attended SCAD. She now works for San Diego-based Topshelf Records.  In this interview we talk about the ups and downs of running a house venue, her DIY label Bomb Shelter Records, and one way to foster safety in the music scene.

A warning in relation to our discussion on a safe scene: we talk about PWR BTTM as one example of a band fighting for safe spaces. Unfortunately, since the interview, Ben Hopkins has been accused of sexual assault. For more info and resources, check further down in the show notes.

Thank you to Danielle Leonard (and Marty!) for chatting with me and to all the artists for permission to use their song on the podcast. And thank you to The Fresh Brunettes, who are providing their song "Best of the Worst" as the new Grrl on Grrl theme song! You can find their album Fouled Up Beyond All Recognition on CDBaby.]]></description>
		
		
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<itunes:summary>I met Danielle at the SD Women Music Industry night last year and was intrigued with her work running a DIY record label in Savannah, Georgia where she attended SCAD. She now works for San Diego-based Topshelf Records.  In this interview we talk about the ups and downs of running a house venue, her DIY label Bomb Shelter Records, and one way to foster safety in the music scene.

A warning in relation to our discussion on a safe scene: we talk about PWR BTTM as one example of a band fighting for safe spaces. Unfortunately, since the interview, Ben Hopkins has been accused of sexual assault. For more info and resources, check further down in the show notes.

Thank you to Danielle Leonard (and Marty!) for chatting with me and to all the artists for permission to use their song on the podcast. And thank you to The Fresh Brunettes, who are providing their song &quot;Best of the Worst&quot; as the new Grrl on Grrl theme song! You can find their album Fouled Up Beyond All Recognition on CDBaby.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>GRRL Interlude 005: Goodbye Polish, hello to you????, Felicia Williams, No Vacations, &#038; podcast updates</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2017 07:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey folks! Thanks for your patience waiting for new interviews. For now, here's a mini-episode ("Interlude") with some podcast updates and some rad poetry from Felicia Williams and music from Polish and No Vacations.]]></description>
		
		
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<itunes:summary>Hey folks! Thanks for your patience waiting for new interviews. For now, here&apos;s a mini-episode (&quot;Interlude&quot;) with some podcast updates and some rad poetry from Felicia Williams and music from Polish and No Vacations.</itunes:summary>

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		<title>GRRL029: Writing in the car, 90s influences, and Instagram marketing with Dee Clement of Lonely Bones</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2017 17:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>GRRL028: Pay-to-play, promoting, and self-respect with Jenna of SoCal Indie Musicians</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2017 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jenna Alonzo joined me over Skype to talk about her website SoCal Indie Musicians, which she uses as a platform to help herself and other bands promote themselves and book shows, either through her blog or one-on-one.

Artists featured: Black Jacobins, The Black Heartthrobs, Frequency Within]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">660</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>Jenna Alonzo joined me over Skype to talk about her website SoCal Indie Musicians, which she uses as a platform to help herself and other bands promote themselves and book shows, either through her blog or one-on-one.

Artists featured: Black Jacobins, The Black Heartthrobs, Frequency Within</itunes:summary>
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		<title>GRRL026: Femme punk, misconceptions, and song inspiration, with the Fresh Brunettes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2017 16:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This episode of Grrl on Grrl features Aleisha and Alexis of San Diego "femme punk" band The Fresh Brunettes. Their bassist Paul was also in the room, but didn't say much, as bassists are wont to do, and Fresh Brunettes' dog mascot Cosmo also graced us with his presence.

Besides the amazing songs from Lisa Prank, Soft Lions, the Candelights, you'll hear Alexis and Aleisha talk about preconceived notions of what a guitarist or drummer should look like, some inspiration for their songs, and what they appreciate when interacting with their audience.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">633</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>This episode of Grrl on Grrl features Aleisha and Alexis of San Diego &quot;femme punk&quot; band The Fresh Brunettes. Their bassist Paul was also in the room, but didn&apos;t say much, as bassists are wont to do, and Fresh Brunettes&apos; dog mascot Cosmo also graced us with his presence.

Besides the amazing songs from Lisa Prank, Soft Lions, the Candelights, you&apos;ll hear Alexis and Aleisha talk about preconceived notions of what a guitarist or drummer should look like, some inspiration for their songs, and what they appreciate when interacting with their audience.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>GRRL027: Depression &#038; (the lack of) DIY spaces with Diana Regan</title>
		<link>https://grrlongrrl.wordpress.com/2017/04/23/grrl027-depression-the-lack-of-diy-spaces-with-diana-regan/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2017 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For episode 27, I interviewed Oakland-based solo artist Diana Regan, who records and releases her music straight from her home! In the episode, we talk about the stories behind her songs and our process transposing  and performing our songs in different instruments--in her case, ukulele to guitar; for me, ukulele to piano. We also touch on the Ghost Ship warehouse fire in Oakland last year, and how DIY spaces and communities like that saved Diana in her younger years.

Not-so-fun fact: I originally interviewed Diana in early 2016 but because of technical difficulties, I had to scrap the interview. Fortunately Diana was willing to sit down with me for a SECOND interview. Thanks to Diana for her patience!

Content Warning: We talk extensively about dealing with depression, and also have mentions of self-harm, addiction, and trauma.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">594</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>For episode 27, I interviewed Oakland-based solo artist Diana Regan, who records and releases her music straight from her home! In the episode, we talk about the stories behind her songs and our process transposing  and performing our songs in different instruments--in her case, ukulele to guitar; for me, ukulele to piano. We also touch on the Ghost Ship warehouse fire in Oakland last year, and how DIY spaces and communities like that saved Diana in her younger years.

Not-so-fun fact: I originally interviewed Diana in early 2016 but because of technical difficulties, I had to scrap the interview. Fortunately Diana was willing to sit down with me for a SECOND interview. Thanks to Diana for her patience!

Content Warning: We talk extensively about dealing with depression, and also have mentions of self-harm, addiction, and trauma.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>GRRL025: Fiddling, contra dance, and gender at Smith College, with Anna Levitt of Crooked</title>
		<link>https://grrlongrrl.wordpress.com/2017/04/12/grrl025-fiddling-contra-dance-and-gender-at-smith-college-with-anna-levitt-of-crooked/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2017 16:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Welcome to episode 25 of Grrl on Grrl with Anna Levitt of San Diego folk band Crooked. In this episode we talk about the differences between classical violin and fiddle, gender at Anna's alma mater Smith College and with babies, and the two different faces of her band Crooked.

Disclaimer/corrections on the portion about Smith College: During the interview we talk about how trans men are included in Smith, but it looks like that is not the case any longer. If you look at their gender inclusion policy on their site, they admit women (cis and trans), do not include trans men, and then have a complete non-answer for genderqueer and gender nonconforming individuals. 

Don't forget to check the show notes for links to the City Heights Music School, San Diego Folk Heritage Society, and more!]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">591</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>Welcome to episode 25 of Grrl on Grrl with Anna Levitt of San Diego folk band Crooked. In this episode we talk about the differences between classical violin and fiddle, gender at Anna&apos;s alma mater Smith College and with babies, and the two different faces of her band Crooked.

Disclaimer/corrections on the portion about Smith College: During the interview we talk about how trans men are included in Smith, but it looks like that is not the case any longer. If you look at their gender inclusion policy on their site, they admit women (cis and trans), do not include trans men, and then have a complete non-answer for genderqueer and gender nonconforming individuals. 

Don&apos;t forget to check the show notes for links to the City Heights Music School, San Diego Folk Heritage Society, and more!</itunes:summary>
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		<title>GRRL024: Streak of bad luck and sneaking off to play drums, with Stefanie of Caustic Casanova</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2017 23:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Stefanie joined me online after Caustic Casanova's 2016 tour to talk about their almost-comical bad luck streak during the first week of their tour, some tour tips, a bit about their record label Retro Futurist, and the difficult time and plain hard work she put in to recover from breaking *both* her wrists. I also bust out my trumpet playing story again, but this time to learn about Stefanie's slight subterfuge when it came to finally playing the drums in high school.

Based in Washington D.C., Caustic Casanova has been described as "heavy metal B-52s" and other crossovers that usually involve the words "hard", "heavy", and "psychedelic." They'll be recording a new album starting in April, before going on yet another summer tour, so keep an eye out for tour dates. You do NOT want to miss them!]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">492</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>Stefanie joined me online after Caustic Casanova&apos;s 2016 tour to talk about their almost-comical bad luck streak during the first week of their tour, some tour tips, a bit about their record label Retro Futurist, and the difficult time and plain hard work she put in to recover from breaking *both* her wrists. I also bust out my trumpet playing story again, but this time to learn about Stefanie&apos;s slight subterfuge when it came to finally playing the drums in high school.

Based in Washington D.C., Caustic Casanova has been described as &quot;heavy metal B-52s&quot; and other crossovers that usually involve the words &quot;hard&quot;, &quot;heavy&quot;, and &quot;psychedelic.&quot; They&apos;ll be recording a new album starting in April, before going on yet another summer tour, so keep an eye out for tour dates. You do NOT want to miss them!</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Interlude 004: trans-exclusion at the women&#8217;s march, podcast recs, and poetry from Felicia Williams</title>
		<link>https://grrlongrrl.wordpress.com/2017/03/05/interlude-004-trans-exclusion-at-the-womens-march-podcast-recs-and-poetry-from-felicia-williams/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2017 19:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interlude 004 is all about inclusivity/exclusivity: from podcasts that interview with inclusivity in mind to the global women's march in January. Plus, "Nvr Pass" by previous Grrl on Grrl guest Emma with her band She/Her/Hers, the poem "A Kind of Dying" by San Diego poet Felicia Williams, and a deleted interview clip featuring Liz of The Fictitious Dishes.

Wanna submit your poetry and flash fiction to be featured in an Interlude episode? Shoot me an email! 

Don't forget to rate &amp; review Grrl on Grrl on iTunes or Stitcher, and you can follow me on Twitter and Instagram @grrlongrrl, or you can like the Grrl on Grrl Podcast page on Facebook. ]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">512</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>Interlude 004 is all about inclusivity/exclusivity: from podcasts that interview with inclusivity in mind to the global women&apos;s march in January. Plus, &quot;Nvr Pass&quot; by previous Grrl on Grrl guest Emma with her band She/Her/Hers, the poem &quot;A Kind of Dying&quot; by San Diego poet Felicia Williams, and a deleted interview clip featuring Liz of The Fictitious Dishes.

Wanna submit your poetry and flash fiction to be featured in an Interlude episode? Shoot me an email! 

Don&apos;t forget to rate &amp; review Grrl on Grrl on iTunes or Stitcher, and you can follow me on Twitter and Instagram @grrlongrrl, or you can like the Grrl on Grrl Podcast page on Facebook.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>GRRL023: unexpected double standards and &#8220;women in music&#8221; tropes, featuring the Fictitious Dishes</title>
		<link>https://grrlongrrl.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/grrl023-having-fun-with-full-time-jobs-and-unexpected-double-standards-having-a-guy-in-their-band-featuring-the-fictitious-dishes/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2017 00:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All four members of the Fictitious Dishes (Taryn, Liz, Maggie, and Jacquie) join me on this episode of Grrl on Grrl to talk about whether or not to expect people to pay for their music, the possibilities of working with a producer, some conflicting messages from showgoers when Taryn's husband Hugh (of Slum Summer) filled in for Liz, and double standards and confusion in feminism and music.

This is the first time I recorded more than 2 people on separate mics. It needs some work, but I definitely learned a lot and I have some goals to reach the level of quality I really want in the future. For now, I hope I fixed the levels enough in post that you can hear everybody well!

Grrl on Grrl is now back on its biweekly schedule. Are you excited? I'm excited. Relieved and excited. Thanks for listening!]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">466</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>All four members of the Fictitious Dishes (Taryn, Liz, Maggie, and Jacquie) join me on this episode of Grrl on Grrl to talk about whether or not to expect people to pay for their music, the possibilities of working with a producer, some conflicting messages from showgoers when Taryn&apos;s husband Hugh (of Slum Summer) filled in for Liz, and double standards and confusion in feminism and music.

This is the first time I recorded more than 2 people on separate mics. It needs some work, but I definitely learned a lot and I have some goals to reach the level of quality I really want in the future. For now, I hope I fixed the levels enough in post that you can hear everybody well!

Grrl on Grrl is now back on its biweekly schedule. Are you excited? I&apos;m excited. Relieved and excited. Thanks for listening!</itunes:summary>
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		<title>GRRL Interludes 003: Music news, fake news, and a Backpage.com update</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 17:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In this quick episode, I give some updates on past Grrl on Grrl guests, including new albums and award nominations! Plus I plug a great podcast and a couple of articles about journalism and fake news, and a quick update on Backpage.com--which I talked about in Interlude Episode 001--and some organizations to check out in the wake up the shutdown. I also have the pleasure of talking over some ambient music created by Asher Mendel, because I felt weird having just my voice talking with no background. So uh, what do you think? Is it too distracting? Too gloomy? TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">454</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>In this quick episode, I give some updates on past Grrl on Grrl guests, including new albums and award nominations! Plus I plug a great podcast and a couple of articles about journalism and fake news, and a quick update on Backpage.com--which I talked about in Interlude Episode 001--and some organizations to check out in the wake up the shutdown. I also have the pleasure of talking over some ambient music created by Asher Mendel, because I felt weird having just my voice talking with no background. So uh, what do you think? Is it too distracting? Too gloomy? TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>GRRL022: New York vs. LA, the hustle, and touring with Deftones and Refused featuring Sarah Quintero of Spotlights</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Happy new year, folks, and welcome to episode #22 of Grrl on Grrl!

In this episode, you'll hear Sarah Quintero of Spotlights, a sludgegaze band from New York.
She and Mario, who you heard mentioned in a cut segment I included in one of the previous Interlude episode, met in San Diego, before moving to Brooklyn where they are now based. In summer of 2016, they toured with Refused and Deftones! You'll hear more about that in the interview. We also talk about their goals with growing the band and the supportive music scene in New York.

The first episode of 2017 runs a bit longer at 53 minutes, but it's totally worth it because you'll get to hear not only Spotlights, but San Diego's Sleeping People and Seattle-based band He Whose Ox Is Gored. Enjoy!]]></description>
		
		
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<itunes:summary>Happy new year, folks, and welcome to episode #22 of Grrl on Grrl!

In this episode, you&apos;ll hear Sarah Quintero of Spotlights, a sludgegaze band from New York.
She and Mario, who you heard mentioned in a cut segment I included in one of the previous Interlude episode, met in San Diego, before moving to Brooklyn where they are now based. In summer of 2016, they toured with Refused and Deftones! You&apos;ll hear more about that in the interview. We also talk about their goals with growing the band and the supportive music scene in New York.

The first episode of 2017 runs a bit longer at 53 minutes, but it&apos;s totally worth it because you&apos;ll get to hear not only Spotlights, but San Diego&apos;s Sleeping People and Seattle-based band He Whose Ox Is Gored. Enjoy!</itunes:summary>
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		<title>GRRL021: Songumentaries, reverse sexism?!, and going pro with Angie Walton of Duping the Public</title>
		<link>https://grrlongrrl.wordpress.com/2016/12/04/grrl021-songumentaries-reverse-sexism-and-going-pro-with-angie-walton-of-duping-the-public/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2016 17:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In this episode, Angie of Duping the Public and I talk about DTP's songumentary series--which documents their songwriting, production, and recording process, lifting women up in a male-dominated industry, how soul-sucking "going pro" in any industry can be, and the strides women have made in the music scene.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">408</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>In this episode, Angie of Duping the Public and I talk about DTP&apos;s songumentary series--which documents their songwriting, production, and recording process, lifting women up in a male-dominated industry, how soul-sucking &quot;going pro&quot; in any industry can be, and the strides women have made in the music scene.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>GRRL Interludes 002: Blackberry Tongues, War on Women, and Iceland&#8217;s wage gap protest</title>
		<link>https://grrlongrrl.wordpress.com/2016/11/09/grrl-interludes-002-blackberry-tongues-war-on-women-and-icelands-wage-gap-protest/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2016 19:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In this Interlude, you get to listen to a song off Blackberry Tongues latest EP put out in July, hear about Icelandic women's protest about the unfair wage gap this past October, and a little bit about the Newsweek story on War on Women, which Grrl on Grrl listener Molly sent me.

Let's build a Grrl on Grrl community! Start posting cool links, feminist resources, news stories, or anything else you'd think I or other Grrl on Grrl listeners will be interested. You can post them on our Facebook page, shoot me an email, or send a tweet! I might even mention you in future episodes!

Question of the month: How has your gender, class, and race affected your work environment? Shoot me an email at grrlongrrlpodcast@gmail.com or comment on Facebook or Twitter! I may share your thoughts on future episodes.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">404</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>In this Interlude, you get to listen to a song off Blackberry Tongues latest EP put out in July, hear about Icelandic women&apos;s protest about the unfair wage gap this past October, and a little bit about the Newsweek story on War on Women, which Grrl on Grrl listener Molly sent me.

Let&apos;s build a Grrl on Grrl community! Start posting cool links, feminist resources, news stories, or anything else you&apos;d think I or other Grrl on Grrl listeners will be interested. You can post them on our Facebook page, shoot me an email, or send a tweet! I might even mention you in future episodes!

Question of the month: How has your gender, class, and race affected your work environment? Shoot me an email at grrlongrrlpodcast@gmail.com or comment on Facebook or Twitter! I may share your thoughts on future episodes.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>GRRL020: Staying safe, queer, and slutty with Oakland band Spray Tan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For episode 20, all three members of the self-proclaimed super queer, super slutty Oakland band Spray Tan--Andrea, Dorsey, and Lindsay--joined me online to talk about their experiences touring and staying safe as a queer band. We talk a bit about what came first--the punk or the queer?, how they determine when they play one of their more incendiary songs, and a bit of their songwriting process. (Hint: I wish I could be there.)]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">375</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>For episode 20, all three members of the self-proclaimed super queer, super slutty Oakland band Spray Tan--Andrea, Dorsey, and Lindsay--joined me online to talk about their experiences touring and staying safe as a queer band. We talk a bit about what came first--the punk or the queer?, how they determine when they play one of their more incendiary songs, and a bit of their songwriting process. (Hint: I wish I could be there.)</itunes:summary>
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		<title>GRRL Interlude 001: feminist and music news featuring songs from Polish and Crooked</title>
		<link>https://grrlongrrl.wordpress.com/2016/10/12/grrl-interlude-001-feminist-and-music-news-featuring-songs-from-polish-and-crooked/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2016 21:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here's the very first Grrl on Grrl Interlude episode! In this short episode, I cover Grrl on Grrl news, upcoming album releases in October, and quotes from articles regarding the recent arrest of the Backpage CEO. Listen below, and don't forget to check out the links to bands and articles mentioned as well.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">361</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>Here&apos;s the very first Grrl on Grrl Interlude episode! In this short episode, I cover Grrl on Grrl news, upcoming album releases in October, and quotes from articles regarding the recent arrest of the Backpage CEO. Listen below, and don&apos;t forget to check out the links to bands and articles mentioned as well.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>GRRL019: Working with a record label, objectification, and insecurities with Megan Liscomb of Soft Lions</title>
		<link>https://grrlongrrl.wordpress.com/2016/09/25/grrl019-working-with-a-record-label-objectification-and-insecurities-with-megan-liscomb-of-soft-lions/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2016 16:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Year 2 of Grrl on Grrl continues with episode 19 featuring Megan Liscomb of San Diego band Soft Lions. In this episode, Megan and I talk about working with a record label, insecurities as a live musician, and differences in objectification depending on your role in the band. Soft Lions is also a frequent participant of Monica Mendoza's shows for GRRRL Independent Ladies, which you can hear more about on Monica's episode of Grrl on Grrl.

Keep an ear out for news on their upcoming album to be released on Velvet Blue Records late October.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">355</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>Year 2 of Grrl on Grrl continues with episode 19 featuring Megan Liscomb of San Diego band Soft Lions. In this episode, Megan and I talk about working with a record label, insecurities as a live musician, and differences in objectification depending on your role in the band. Soft Lions is also a frequent participant of Monica Mendoza&apos;s shows for GRRRL Independent Ladies, which you can hear more about on Monica&apos;s episode of Grrl on Grrl.

Keep an ear out for news on their upcoming album to be released on Velvet Blue Records late October.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>GRRL018: Harassment at shows and support liaisons with Hailey Wojcik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2016 16:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Grrl on Grrl Year Two officially begins with episode 18 featuring solo artist Hailey Wojcik. Stop-motion animator and pop rock extraordinaire, Hailey is a talented artist and musician, dedicated to improving her crafts.

In this episode, we talk about Hailey's workflow for booking tours, unwanted physical contact at shows (and other male micro-aggressions), how we can address and fix them, along with plans for her upcoming tour and new album currently being recorded.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">333</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>Grrl on Grrl Year Two officially begins with episode 18 featuring solo artist Hailey Wojcik. Stop-motion animator and pop rock extraordinaire, Hailey is a talented artist and musician, dedicated to improving her crafts.

In this episode, we talk about Hailey&apos;s workflow for booking tours, unwanted physical contact at shows (and other male micro-aggressions), how we can address and fix them, along with plans for her upcoming tour and new album currently being recorded.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>GRRL017: Spotify and nipple tape with Coco Tigler of The Fever</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2016 15:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Grrl on Grrl goes INTERNATIONAL!

Coco Tigler is one part of the German duo The Fever. She joined me over the phone on the last day of their spring US tour. As an American expat, she shares her views on the music scenes in Berlin and in the US, the differences of touring the US versus Europe, censorship (specifically in regards to women), and finances.]]></description>
		
		
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<itunes:summary>Grrl on Grrl goes INTERNATIONAL!

Coco Tigler is one part of the German duo The Fever. She joined me over the phone on the last day of their spring US tour. As an American expat, she shares her views on the music scenes in Berlin and in the US, the differences of touring the US versus Europe, censorship (specifically in regards to women), and finances.</itunes:summary>
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			<media:title type="html">June</media:title>
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		<title>GRRL016: Borders and riot grrrl feat. Mónica Mendoza of Le Ra &#038; GRRRL Independent Ladies</title>
		<link>https://grrlongrrl.wordpress.com/2016/05/22/grrl016-borders-and-riot-grrrl-feat-monica-mendoza-of-le-ra-grrrl-independent-ladies/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2016 03:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In San Diego where I'm based, the question of what "to do" with the southern border is, in turns, ignored by many yet extremely relevant to others. For Mónica, who grew up in Tijuana, the border is a social construct that can bring people together.

In this episode, we talk about using the border to connect musicians and artists from Tijuana, San Diego, and Los Angeles and the importance of listening to music in our own languages. And of course, we talk about her band Le Ra and her frontera organization GRRRL Independent Ladies.

This episode also guests poet Felicia Williams and artist Alison Dunlevy.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">302</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>In San Diego where I&apos;m based, the question of what &quot;to do&quot; with the southern border is, in turns, ignored by many yet extremely relevant to others. For Mónica, who grew up in Tijuana, the border is a social construct that can bring people together.

In this episode, we talk about using the border to connect musicians and artists from Tijuana, San Diego, and Los Angeles and the importance of listening to music in our own languages. And of course, we talk about her band Le Ra and her frontera organization GRRRL Independent Ladies.

This episode also guests poet Felicia Williams and artist Alison Dunlevy.</itunes:summary>
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			<media:title type="html">June</media:title>
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		<title>GRRL015: Band chemistry, creating a fanbase, and Asian American stereotypes featuring Tracie</title>
		<link>https://grrlongrrl.wordpress.com/2016/05/01/grrl015-band-chemistry-fanbase-and-asian-american-stereotypes-featuring-tracie/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2016 15:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For episode 15, I interviewed Tracie Loo of Sir Coyler and His Asthmatic Band. Despite being based in Seattle, they recorded their upcoming EP at a San Diego studio, and I had a chance to see them play at local venue Tower Bar. Tracie joined me right before her flight back to Seattle. Good thing I live 5 minutes away from the airport!

Tracie contributes, records, and plays as drummer with Sir Coyler &amp; His Asthmatic Band. In this episode, we talk about the importance of band chemistry when it comes to creating music together, stereotypes we have to deal with as Asian Americans, and how to (theoretically) build a fanbase as an indie band.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">291</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>For episode 15, I interviewed Tracie Loo of Sir Coyler and His Asthmatic Band. Despite being based in Seattle, they recorded their upcoming EP at a San Diego studio, and I had a chance to see them play at local venue Tower Bar. Tracie joined me right before her flight back to Seattle. Good thing I live 5 minutes away from the airport!

Tracie contributes, records, and plays as drummer with Sir Coyler &amp; His Asthmatic Band. In this episode, we talk about the importance of band chemistry when it comes to creating music together, stereotypes we have to deal with as Asian Americans, and how to (theoretically) build a fanbase as an indie band.</itunes:summary>
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			<media:title type="html">June</media:title>
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		<title>GRRL014: Recording for posterity and engaging showgoers and fans, featuring Dee Ray</title>
		<link>https://grrlongrrl.wordpress.com/2016/04/03/grrl014-recording-for-posterity-and-engaging-showgoers-and-fans-featuring-dee-ray/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2016 19:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you're listening to this podcast, then you are, at the very least, interested in music and at most, passionate. Grrl on Grrl's next guest is not only passionate, but she finds herself drawn to music, so much so that it would probably hurt without it.

In this episode, I join Dee Ray in her house where we speak about the importance of recording your music as your personal history. We also talk about Dee's strategy for engaging showgoers and fans, and enjoying the hands-on approach to books and letters.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">263</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>If you&apos;re listening to this podcast, then you are, at the very least, interested in music and at most, passionate. Grrl on Grrl&apos;s next guest is not only passionate, but she finds herself drawn to music, so much so that it would probably hurt without it.

In this episode, I join Dee Ray in her house where we speak about the importance of recording your music as your personal history. We also talk about Dee&apos;s strategy for engaging showgoers and fans, and enjoying the hands-on approach to books and letters.</itunes:summary>
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			<media:title type="html">GRRL014 featuring Dee Ray</media:title>
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			<media:title type="html">June</media:title>
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		<title>GRRL013: Musical collectives and learning from side projects, featuring Ali Coyle of Strangers Inc</title>
		<link>https://grrlongrrl.wordpress.com/2016/03/14/grrl013-musical-collectives-and-learning-from-playing-in-side-projects-featuring-ali-coyle-of-strangers-inc/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2016 23:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ali Coyle is a Los Angeles and Orange County based musician who has played in countless bands including Sullen Ray--who you'll recognize as our intro song, and her old main project This Time With Feeling. Currently, she plays in NOBLES and Glasz, but her main project is Strangers Inc, which she does with her writing and production partner Javan Slagle.

Ali joined me on Skype from Los Angeles, while we weathered the crazy storm that overtook southern California this past winter. We talk a lot about her current project Strangers Inc and why she's excited about going in a new direction musically, the music scene in Orange County compared to Los Angeles and San Diego--and sorry, I can't help shit talking LA some more, but I like being proven wrong as well-- and music collectives and collaborations.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">244</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>Ali Coyle is a Los Angeles and Orange County based musician who has played in countless bands including Sullen Ray--who you&apos;ll recognize as our intro song, and her old main project This Time With Feeling. Currently, she plays in NOBLES and Glasz, but her main project is Strangers Inc, which she does with her writing and production partner Javan Slagle.

Ali joined me on Skype from Los Angeles, while we weathered the crazy storm that overtook southern California this past winter. We talk a lot about her current project Strangers Inc and why she&apos;s excited about going in a new direction musically, the music scene in Orange County compared to Los Angeles and San Diego--and sorry, I can&apos;t help shit talking LA some more, but I like being proven wrong as well-- and music collectives and collaborations.</itunes:summary>
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			<media:title type="html">GRRL013 featuring Ali Coyle of Strangers Inc, talking about musical collectives and being a supporting member in a band</media:title>
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			<media:title type="html">June</media:title>
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		<title>GRRL012: safe spaces (or lack thereof) and the DIY scene, featuring Anastasia Rivera of The Weak Days</title>
		<link>https://grrlongrrl.wordpress.com/2016/02/29/grrl012-featuring-anastasia-rivera-of-the-weak-days/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2016 06:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anastasia Rivera is vocalist and keyboardist for pop punk/emo band The Weak Days based in Richmond, Virginia. The band describes themselves as "sing-along indie punk/pop... whatever that means." And the name fits, I think, especially with their dual and dueling vocals.

Anastasia joins me over Skype. We talk a lot about being a girl in the DIY punk music scene in Richmond, battling hardcore kids (literally), and her strategy when it comes to avoiding uncomfortable situations at shows.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">238</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>Anastasia Rivera is vocalist and keyboardist for pop punk/emo band The Weak Days based in Richmond, Virginia. The band describes themselves as &quot;sing-along indie punk/pop... whatever that means.&quot; And the name fits, I think, especially with their dual and dueling vocals.

Anastasia joins me over Skype. We talk a lot about being a girl in the DIY punk music scene in Richmond, battling hardcore kids (literally), and her strategy when it comes to avoiding uncomfortable situations at shows.</itunes:summary>
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			<media:title type="html">June</media:title>
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		<title>GRRL011: playing solo vs ensemble and physical products, featuring Carrie Gillespie Feller of Hexa</title>
		<link>https://grrlongrrl.wordpress.com/2016/02/14/grrl011-featuring-carrie-gillespie-feller-of-hexa/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2016 04:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For episode 11, Carrie Gillespie Feller invited me into her home for the interview. I have to admit, I would’ve stayed forever if only to cuddle with her cat some more…

This episode is especially exciting for me because we talk a lot about her new project, Hexa and her debut EP Bata Motel that came out only last week. Although the album was recorded with other musicians, her live performance is just her, with a keyboard, loop pedal, microphone, and drum pad. It’s really amazing watching her build layers and layers of sound and harmony… Honestly, it’s a great live experience.

Besides Hexa, Carrie has been in several San Diego bands, the two most recent being ILYA and Lunar Maps, which you’ll also get to hear during the course of the episode. Because of her experiences, we talk about the differences between playing solo versus in a band, and we also touch on creating physical products in an industry run by digital downloads.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">229</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>For episode 11, Carrie Gillespie Feller invited me into her home for the interview. I have to admit, I would’ve stayed forever if only to cuddle with her cat some more…

This episode is especially exciting for me because we talk a lot about her new project, Hexa and her debut EP Bata Motel that came out only last week. Although the album was recorded with other musicians, her live performance is just her, with a keyboard, loop pedal, microphone, and drum pad. It’s really amazing watching her build layers and layers of sound and harmony… Honestly, it’s a great live experience.

Besides Hexa, Carrie has been in several San Diego bands, the two most recent being ILYA and Lunar Maps, which you’ll also get to hear during the course of the episode. Because of her experiences, we talk about the differences between playing solo versus in a band, and we also touch on creating physical products in an industry run by digital downloads.</itunes:summary>
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			<media:title type="html">June</media:title>
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		<title>GRRL010: sexual assault &#038; feminist organization Af3irm featuring Miah Spring</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2016 02:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The first time I met Miah Spring, she came up to me after a show and asked me to be on my podcast. Ah-wahh? Usually finding interviewees is like herding cats! But this is one cat that fell right into my lap purring.

Okay, enough cat analogies. In this episode, you'll get to hear two songs performed by Miah live at a recent Flim Flam Revue show in San Diego in addition to a song she did in collaboration with Irate Productions. The song, "Sandy Still Speaks," is about Sandra Bland, who was arrested in 2015 and died a few years later in jail. We'll also talk about a feminist organization called Af3irm that Miah is involved in, creating music with and without friends, and supporting others when it comes to talking about sexual assault and rape.

I will be issuing a content warning midway through the interview for sexual assault. Please, please, PLEASE feel free to skip past that portion if you need to.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">218</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>The first time I met Miah Spring, she came up to me after a show and asked me to be on my podcast. Ah-wahh? Usually finding interviewees is like herding cats! But this is one cat that fell right into my lap purring.

Okay, enough cat analogies. In this episode, you&apos;ll get to hear two songs performed by Miah live at a recent Flim Flam Revue show in San Diego in addition to a song she did in collaboration with Irate Productions. The song, &quot;Sandy Still Speaks,&quot; is about Sandra Bland, who was arrested in 2015 and died a few years later in jail. We&apos;ll also talk about a feminist organization called Af3irm that Miah is involved in, creating music with and without friends, and supporting others when it comes to talking about sexual assault and rape.

I will be issuing a content warning midway through the interview for sexual assault. Please, please, PLEASE feel free to skip past that portion if you need to.</itunes:summary>
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			<media:title type="html">June</media:title>
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		<title>GRRL009: music accessibility to all ages, queer/trans folks in San Diego and Portland, featuring Emma Grrrl of She/Her/Hers</title>
		<link>https://grrlongrrl.wordpress.com/2016/01/17/grrl009-featuring-emma-grrrl-of-sheherhers/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2016 15:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Emma Grrrl is a trans musician who I contacted when she was still living in Portland. To make things more complicated for the interview process, she decided to pack up her car to play shows across the country. Now she's back in San Diego, ready to settle down... maybe.

In this episode, we talk about her project She/Her/Hers and the importance of making music accessible to all ages (not just the 21+ crowd). Plus you'll get to hear some great artists from around the country.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">204</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>Emma Grrrl is a trans musician who I contacted when she was still living in Portland. To make things more complicated for the interview process, she decided to pack up her car to play shows across the country. Now she&apos;s back in San Diego, ready to settle down... maybe.

In this episode, we talk about her project She/Her/Hers and the importance of making music accessible to all ages (not just the 21+ crowd). Plus you&apos;ll get to hear some great artists from around the country.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>GRRL008: identity, label, and goals featuring multi-instrumentalist and songwriter Lauren DeRose</title>
		<link>https://grrlongrrl.wordpress.com/2015/11/29/grrl008-featuring-multi-instrumentalist-and-songwriter-lauren-derose/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2015 14:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Grrl on Grrl is back with episode 8, featuring San Diego musician Lauren DeRose. We talk a lot about feminism, identity, and labels, along with the usual music topics about community and different goals for different musicians. Lauren also picked a few great songs for you to listen to, so I hope you enjoy!
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">181</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>Grrl on Grrl is back with episode 8, featuring San Diego musician Lauren DeRose. We talk a lot about feminism, identity, and labels, along with the usual music topics about community and different goals for different musicians. Lauren also picked a few great songs for you to listen to, so I hope you enjoy!</itunes:summary>

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		<title>GRRL007: unique art &#038; music in Los Angeles featuring Lauren Davis of Blackberry Tongues</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2015 14:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Los Angeles band Blackberry Tongues traveled to San Diego this past summer where they proceeded to blow my mind with their ethereal music. From that night, I kept in contact with Lauren and I finally got the chance to interview her! In this episode, she teaches me what microtonal music is, the supportive and unique art and music scene in Los Angeles, and we play some positively different music than what has been on the podcast before.

We also discuss whether it's better for a band or artist to play more often or occasionally in their local music scene. What do you think? Do you risk oversaturating or tiring out your fans? Or will they lose interest if you don't play often? Leave a comment and tell us what you think!]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">164</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>Los Angeles band Blackberry Tongues traveled to San Diego this past summer where they proceeded to blow my mind with their ethereal music. From that night, I kept in contact with Lauren and I finally got the chance to interview her! In this episode, she teaches me what microtonal music is, the supportive and unique art and music scene in Los Angeles, and we play some positively different music than what has been on the podcast before.

We also discuss whether it&apos;s better for a band or artist to play more often or occasionally in their local music scene. What do you think? Do you risk oversaturating or tiring out your fans? Or will they lose interest if you don&apos;t play often? Leave a comment and tell us what you think!</itunes:summary>
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		<title>GRRL005: extra scrutiny on stage, riot grrrl, and festivals featuring Lori Sokolowski of Gloomsday</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For episode 5, Lori and I got together in her living room to chat about the history of her earlier bands, being a woman on stage and being extra scrutinized because of it, and other topics about women in the music industry.

She's a badass drummer for the two-piece band Gloomsday that she plays in with her boyfriend Justin and has always played bass and guitar in several other bands including Ladyparts and the Rosalyns--the latter got to play with The Julie Ruin and other rad women musicians at the Orange County festival Burger-a-go-go.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">135</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>For episode 5, Lori and I got together in her living room to chat about the history of her earlier bands, being a woman on stage and being extra scrutinized because of it, and other topics about women in the music industry.

She&apos;s a badass drummer for the two-piece band Gloomsday that she plays in with her boyfriend Justin and has always played bass and guitar in several other bands including Ladyparts and the Rosalyns--the latter got to play with The Julie Ruin and other rad women musicians at the Orange County festival Burger-a-go-go.</itunes:summary>
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			<media:title type="html">June</media:title>
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		<title>GRRL004: producing at home and music as a full-time job featuring Alex Capella of Bakkuda</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2015 16:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Alex Capella of Bakkuda joins me for Grrl on Grrl's fourth episode! Bakkuda is a solo synth project, self-produced right from her bedroom.

We talk about how her music is a full-time job, taking music classes (both good and bad), and the trendiness of vinyl and cassette.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">128</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>Alex Capella of Bakkuda joins me for Grrl on Grrl&apos;s fourth episode! Bakkuda is a solo synth project, self-produced right from her bedroom.

We talk about how her music is a full-time job, taking music classes (both good and bad), and the trendiness of vinyl and cassette.</itunes:summary>
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			<media:title type="html">Episode 4 featuring Alex Capella of Bakkuda</media:title>
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			<media:title type="html">June</media:title>
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		<title>GRRL003: media whitewashing and the New York music scene featuring Nina Herrera Merkur of My Own Confusion</title>
		<link>https://grrlongrrl.wordpress.com/2015/09/13/grrl003-featuring-nina-herrera-merkur-of-my-own-confusion/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2015 16:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For episode 3, Nina of the bicoastal punk band My Own Confusion joined me over Skype to talk about the perils of gentrification, the difficulty of promoting shows in New York City, and whitewashing in the media.

Thank you all in advance for sticking through some of the spotty sections of the interview. Unfortunately, a poor Internet connection on either or both ends of a Skype call definitely creates some turbulence throughout the episode!]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">113</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>For episode 3, Nina of the bicoastal punk band My Own Confusion joined me over Skype to talk about the perils of gentrification, the difficulty of promoting shows in New York City, and whitewashing in the media.

Thank you all in advance for sticking through some of the spotty sections of the interview. Unfortunately, a poor Internet connection on either or both ends of a Skype call definitely creates some turbulence throughout the episode!</itunes:summary>
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			<media:title type="html">Grrl on Grrl episode 3 featuring Nina Herrera Merkur of My Own Confusion</media:title>
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			<media:title type="html">June</media:title>
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		<title>GRRL002: the art of schmoozing and sass featuring Paloma Ceballos of Cochinas Locas</title>
		<link>https://grrlongrrl.wordpress.com/2015/08/30/grrl002-featuring-paloma-ceballos-of-cochinas-locas/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2015 16:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paloma Ceballos writes, sings, and plays guitar for San Diego punk band Cochinas Locas. The trio of girls have been described as "unexpectedly good" (you'll hear more about that in the interview). With an energetic set and sassy attitude, their shows are always lively. In this episode, Paloma and I talk about our respective mothers' expectations of what good girls grow up to be, learning the necessary art of schmoozing and social media... and... slut rock?]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">66</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>Paloma Ceballos writes, sings, and plays guitar for San Diego punk band Cochinas Locas. The trio of girls have been described as &quot;unexpectedly good&quot; (you&apos;ll hear more about that in the interview). With an energetic set and sassy attitude, their shows are always lively. In this episode, Paloma and I talk about our respective mothers&apos; expectations of what good girls grow up to be, learning the necessary art of schmoozing and social media... and... slut rock?</itunes:summary>
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			<media:title type="html">June</media:title>
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		<title>GRRL001: ukuleles and the New Jersey music scene featuring Devon Moore of Fun While You Wait</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June Owatari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2015 15:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Devon Moore sings and plays ukulele for Fun While You Wait, a three-piece out of New Jersey. In our premiere episode, we nerd out about ukuleles, gush excessively about Devon's song picks, and discuss earthquakes and the New Jersey music community.]]></description>
		
		
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		<post-id xmlns="com-wordpress:feed-additions:1">41</post-id><itunes:author>June Owatari</itunes:author>
<itunes:summary>Devon Moore sings and plays ukulele for Fun While You Wait, a three-piece out of New Jersey. In our premiere episode, we nerd out about ukuleles, gush excessively about Devon&apos;s song picks, and discuss earthquakes and the New Jersey music community.</itunes:summary>
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