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<title>Re: Is anyone reading this forum?</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27409,27412#msg-27412</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Sam D.</strong><br/>
The last post was made in the fall of 2025. Is this thing dead? Any alternatives? Facebook or Instagram? Please post the links</div></blockquote><br />Hi Sam, I don't believe many of the regulars post here anymore. I haven't seen posts from Wizard or Jobe in a long time. I monitor the forum, but I have been so busy running my prosperous company that I haven't had much time to get back up to Deep Creek.It does appear that Rick is still administering the forum. Like neogeo mentioned, Reddit and Instagram occasionally have Deep Creek related posts, and Facebook has several groups about hot springs, but only occasionally will there be a post about Deep Creek.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2026 14:38:43 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Is anyone reading this forum?</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27409,27411#msg-27411</link><description><![CDATA[ In fact, DCV was just at the springs and cleaned the pools. Go look on IG!]]></description>
<dc:creator>neogeo</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2026 18:06:41 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Is anyone reading this forum?</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27409,27410#msg-27410</link><description><![CDATA[ Hi Sam D. Things have fallen quiet here. It's too bad for here at least, hot springs caretakers and regular visitors and locals could all discuss the springs. There is a reddit group for the springs - some trip reports happen there, but generally like much of reddit, it's a pretty weird group often posting a bit inappropriately. Lots of posts from guys saying they want to go to the springs but have never been, and waste of time things like that; some posts from accounts that are clearly too sexual in nature.<br /><br />On Instagram, beyond the image archive ayearoferewhon that I ran for many years until 2020, there are infrequent but helpful postings from the current group of young regulars who have taken on Deep Creek Volunteers. Mostly posting about winter floods and clean up days and helpful things like that.<br /><br />Otherwise Instagram has become an endless posting of the springs by folks far from the naturist and hippie traditions of the place.]]></description>
<dc:creator>neogeo</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2026 10:23:31 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Is anyone reading this forum?</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27409,27409#msg-27409</link><description><![CDATA[ The last post was made in the fall of 2025. Is this thing dead? Any alternatives? Facebook or Instagram? Please post the links]]></description>
<dc:creator>Sam D.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2026 23:08:27 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>How are the Springs right now?</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27408,27408#msg-27408</link><description><![CDATA[ Hi there,<br />I'm thinking of coming out to Deep Creek and wondering how the water is right now?<br />Thanks!]]></description>
<dc:creator>tovala</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2025 11:18:39 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Bradford Ridge Trail</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27291,27407#msg-27407</link><description><![CDATA[ I took a drive yesterday, and saw that Bowen Ranch Road is open to the public, as are the Forest Service roads leading to the Freedom Trail parking area. The fire last Tuesday/Wednesday appears to have it's origin right at the eastern edge of the &quot;Village&quot; about 3 miles east of the Bowen Ranch. It did pass thru the Rock Springs Ranch, but I didn't notice any damage to structures.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Naked Mayor</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2025 13:50:28 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Deep Creek Hike &amp; Camping w/NitOC &amp; Camping Bares</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27400,27403#msg-27403</link><description><![CDATA[ I see now,,,didn't realize you all may head back down there Sunday. Thanks for the clarification. Please tell everyone in your group to bring along a good size trash bag (13 gallon is ideal and easy to carry) and pack out out their own trash and any other trash they find. Thank you. Paul (CEO of Trash Angels Inc.)]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2025 18:01:31 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Deep Creek Hike &amp; Camping w/NitOC &amp; Camping Bares</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27400,27402#msg-27402</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Paul P.</strong><br/>
I will be participating in the massive nationwide No Kings Protest that day!</div></blockquote><br />Yes, that protest will be on Saturday, however ...<br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>AlexJr</strong><br/>
For more informaion: <a href="https://socalnaturist.org/component/dpcalendar/event/218?calid=78" target="_blank" >Deep Creek Hike &amp; Camping w/NitOC &amp; Camping Bares</a></div></blockquote><br />&quot;If you do not wish to camp but would like to join the group for the Saturday or <u>Sunday</u> hike feel free to do so.&quot;]]></description>
<dc:creator>AlexJr</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 15:22:35 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Deep Creek Hike &amp; Camping w/NitOC &amp; Camping Bares</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27400,27401#msg-27401</link><description><![CDATA[ I will be participating in the massive nationwide No Kings Protest that day!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2025 18:02:01 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Deep Creek Hike &amp; Camping w/NitOC &amp; Camping Bares</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27400,27400#msg-27400</link><description><![CDATA[ Date: 06/14/2025 10:00 am - 05:00 pm<br /><br />This will be a family event combined with NitOC,<br />San Diego's Camping Bares and Inland Empire Nudist Club.<br />All naturists are welcome.<br /><br />For more informaion: <a href="https://socalnaturist.org/component/dpcalendar/event/218?calid=78" target="_blank" >Deep Creek Hike &amp; Camping w/NitOC &amp; Camping Bares</a>]]></description>
<dc:creator>AlexJr</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2025 14:48:07 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Any news?</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27396,27399#msg-27399</link><description><![CDATA[ About 3 weeks ago, last time I saw Jobe we went out to Newberry Springs ( roughly 25 miles east of Barstow ) to Wonderhussy's meet up at the Bagdad Cafe. At Wonderhussy's Youtube she put up a video of the event, titled &quot; Spring 2025 Meetup &quot;, about 6 down on the list. In that Video you can see Jobe several times with his Moses long white beard. While we were driving out there he was telling me about all the trash he has been hiking out of DCHS.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Wizard</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2025 22:09:56 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Any news?</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27396,27398#msg-27398</link><description><![CDATA[ Hello Wizard - the Facebook group was started long ago by Celtfire. I do not know how he is doing anymore, but he is an Elder - I don't think the group is active at all in recent times and don't see that he makes his yearly trips to the springs anymore. Last time I was at the springs, I saw Jobe . . . who told me he is there each week. And we can be grateful for that with the pools looking great and all the rest.]]></description>
<dc:creator>neogeo</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2025 08:09:43 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Any news?</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27396,27397#msg-27397</link><description><![CDATA[ Hello Sam, I saw Ricks name pop up recently. Basically nothing happening regarding comments to the site for a long time. Jobe has been going to DCHS most weekends so maybe he will see this and give you an update. I don't know about the Face Book Group you mention.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Wizard</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2025 14:06:25 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Any news?</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27396,27396#msg-27396</link><description><![CDATA[ Just checking if this site is operational. My request to join the Facebook group has been hanging for months. Who is the FB mod?]]></description>
<dc:creator>Sam D.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2025 00:27:14 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Mike Castro provides security</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,2536,27379#msg-27379</link><description><![CDATA[ Waltice1, a LOT has changed since those old threads from 22 years ago. There is no longer any need to go through the &quot;original&quot; Bowen Ranch. Just drive a another half mile to the &quot;new&quot; campground and parking area. Your car will be safe there, and access to the trail down to the springs is easy. Enjoy!<br /><br />Directions Getting to Deep Creek Hot Springs:<br /><br />From the I-15, Exit Ranchero or Main St. in Hesperia, head east about 8 miles to Rock Springs Road.<br />Drive east on Rock Springs Road about 4 miles, and go past the 4-way stop at Kiowa Road, where it turns into Roundup Way.<br />Follow Roundup Way 2 miles, turn left on Central Rd.<br />Drive North on Central for 1/2 mile, then turn right on Ocotillo Way.<br />Drive about 3 miles East on Ocotillo Way, then<br />Turn right onto Bowen Ranch Rd.(a dirt road) and follow south for 6.2 miles<br />After 2.5 miles, keep RIGHT at the Coxey Truck Trail split.<br /><br />Drive over &amp; past a cattle guard at mile 4<br /><br />The entrance is 6.2 miles down Bowen Ranch Rd from Ocotillo Way. You will see a &quot;Bowen Ranch&quot; sign hanging on telephone poles at our entrance &amp; a tall metal water tank on the hill.<br /><br />If you see an old shack cabin, turn around! You are at the wrong place! We are another 1/2 mile further down Bowen Ranch Road.<br />Remember to keep right at the 3 way split just before our entrance.<br /><br />A 4 wheel drive is NOT necessary to drive here unless it just snowed or rained for several days.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2024 10:00:44 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Mike Castro provides security</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,2536,27378#msg-27378</link><description><![CDATA[ Hello Naked Man,<br /><br />I am having a hard time locating the Mike Castro parking lot. Anyway you can give me some specific directions, lat/long, etc.?<br />Thx]]></description>
<dc:creator>waltice1</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2024 09:36:21 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Deputy's Seeking Public's Assistance in Locating Man Missing from the Deep Creek Hot Springs Area</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27374,27377#msg-27377</link><description><![CDATA[ No, nothing that I am aware of, its unsettling, pretty soon it will be winter and then his bones would be left. Sad and gets rid of any evidence on the cause of death.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Katrinaisland</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 13:15:10 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Deputy's Seeking Public's Assistance in Locating Man Missing from the Deep Creek Hot Springs Area</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27374,27376#msg-27376</link><description><![CDATA[ Any news besides this?<br /><br /><a href="https://www.vvdailypress.com/story/news/local/2024/10/04/search-continues-for-lucerne-valley-man-who-vanished-from-campground/75524237007/" target="_blank" >https://www.vvdailypress.com/story/news/local/2024/10/04/search-continues-for-lucerne-valley-man-who-vanished-from-campground/75524237007/</a>]]></description>
<dc:creator>Sam D.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2024 22:48:23 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Deputy's Seeking Public's Assistance in Locating Man Missing from the Deep Creek Hot Springs Area</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27374,27375#msg-27375</link><description><![CDATA[ The USFS rangers need to head down to the springs and do a thorough search for this guy. Canine assistance would help also.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2024 18:33:14 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Deputy's Seeking Public's Assistance in Locating Man Missing from the Deep Creek Hot Springs Area</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27374,27374#msg-27374</link><description><![CDATA[ Message sent via Nixle | Go to nixle.com | Unsubscribe<br />Agency Logo<br />Tuesday October 1, 2024, 4:30 PM<br />SBSD - Victor Valley Sheriff's Department<br /><br /><br />Advisory: Deputy's Seeking Public's Assistance in Locating Man Missing from the Deep Creek Hot Springs Area<br /><br />Dear James Terrell,<br /><br /><br />DATE/TIME: September 26, 2024, 10:00 a.m.<br /><br />INCIDENT: Missing Person<br /><br />LOCATION: Deep Creek Hot Springs Area, Apple Valley, CA<br /><br />MISSING PERSON(S): David Mitchell, 69-year-old Resident of Lucerne Valley<br /><br /><br />SUMMARY: On September 28, 2024, deputies from the Victor Valley station were requested to take a report for a missing Lucerne Valley man. The missing person, David Mitchell, was last seen walking alone on September 26, 2024, at approximately 10:00 a.m., near Deep Creek Hot Springs. His vehicle, a 1998 Infinity I30, was found abandoned at the Bowen Ranch Campground.<br /><br />Mitchell is described as a white male, 6’00’ tall, weighing 156 pounds. He has brown hair and hazel eyes. Mitchell was last seen wearing unknown color hoodie, shorts, and dark socks.<br /><br />Anyone with information on David Mitchell’s whereabouts is asked to contact the Victor Valley station at (760) 552-6800 or Sheriff’s Dispatch at (760) 956-5001. Callers wishing to remain anonymous are urged to call the We-Tip Hotline at 1-800-78CRIME (27463) or you may leave information on the We-Tip website at www.wetip.com.<br /><br />Refer: Detective A. Pangburn<br /><br />Station: Victor Valley<br /><br />Phone No. (760) 552-6800<br /><br />Case No. 072403570<br /><br />SHANNON D. DICUS, Sheriff-Coroner<br />San Bernardino County Sheriff-Coroner Department]]></description>
<dc:creator>Katrinaisland</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2024 16:04:04 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Line fire - how is access affected?</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27372,27373#msg-27373</link><description><![CDATA[ Smam, I would suggest you postpone your trip this Thursday. Although the springs are not in immediate danger, the Line Fire is still out of control and rapidly spreading. Besides, the high temps and smoke at the springs would not be pleasant. Worse yet, you don't want to get stuck at the springs if the fire rapidly comes through there.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2024 10:14:24 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Line fire - how is access affected?</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27372,27372#msg-27372</link><description><![CDATA[ Hi! I was hoping to come this Thursday. May I inquire if the fires are near by to affect my visit, please?]]></description>
<dc:creator>Sam D.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2024 00:42:45 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: LA Times looking for survival stories</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27368,27369#msg-27369</link><description><![CDATA[ I could write a book with all of my close calls and survival stories.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2024 10:39:10 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>LA Times looking for survival stories</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27368,27368#msg-27368</link><description><![CDATA[ What's your California survival story?<br />Name<br />I guess you have to have a subscription to the LA times, this is the email for the authori: <a href="mailto:&#106;&#97;&#99;&#108;&#121;&#110;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#115;&#103;&#114;&#111;&#118;&#101;&#64;&#108;&#97;&#116;&#105;&#109;&#101;&#115;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;">&#106;&#97;&#99;&#108;&#121;&#110;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#115;&#103;&#114;&#111;&#118;&#101;&#64;&#108;&#97;&#116;&#105;&#109;&#101;&#115;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> this is a form provided on their website:<br />First Name<br />Last Name<br />Email<br /><a href="mailto:&#101;&#120;&#97;&#109;&#112;&#108;&#101;&#64;&#101;&#120;&#97;&#109;&#112;&#108;&#101;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;">&#101;&#120;&#97;&#109;&#112;&#108;&#101;&#64;&#101;&#120;&#97;&#109;&#112;&#108;&#101;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;</a><br />Phone Number<br />(000) 000-0000<br />Please enter a valid phone number.<br />Briefly describe your experience. Please include when it occurred, where you were and what happened. How close did you come to dire circumstances, and how did you survive?<br />What do you want people to understand?<br />What advice would you give to others based on this experience?<br />Anything else you'd like to add?<br />By submitting your story to us, you are representing and warranting that the content is original and accurate in all respects and does not defame any person, invade any rights of publicity or of privacy, plagiarize from anyone, or infringe, misappropriate or otherwise violate any proprietary rights of any third party, including intellectual property rights (e.g., copyrights, trademarks). You agree that the Los Angeles Times may edit your submission and may publish your submission on any of its platforms, including without limitation on latimes.com, in print, and on Los Angeles Times social media accounts, and may authorize third parties to publish your submission. You agree to abide by our terms of service.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Katrinaisland</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sun, 14 Jul 2024 13:30:02 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>information about Deep Creek Hot Spring</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27367,27367#msg-27367</link><description><![CDATA[ Hey guys,<br /><br />I wanted to check out some hot springs, and after a quick Google search, I found Deep Creek Hot Springs wasn't too far from me. I came across this forum regarding it, can anyone give me information about Deep Creek? Is it interesting/worth trying? What do you think I should know?]]></description>
<dc:creator>ramiroflores</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2024 19:13:54 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: 6/2/24 Trip Report</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27364,27366#msg-27366</link><description><![CDATA[ I never-ever go on the weekends. Way too crowded on the weekends, and it ruins the peaceful naturist environment that I prefer. When I first started going to Deep Creek years ago the weekends were fine. The Internet has really changed the vibe,]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Tue, 04 Jun 2024 10:35:35 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: 6/2/24 Trip Report</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27364,27365#msg-27365</link><description><![CDATA[ I think the SoCal naturist Groups will be hitting the springs again this weekend, so those weekends can change the dynamic. I remember fondly only going on weekends 20 years ago when I first started visiting, and it was very much and always a naturist space and place. I think everyone now carrying a sophisticated camera everywhere they go has changed things overall.<br /><br />Weekdays for me, when I can.]]></description>
<dc:creator>neogeo</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2024 09:54:38 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>6/2/24 Trip Report</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27364,27364#msg-27364</link><description><![CDATA[ The springs were fairly busy today, as expected since it was the weekend and I see why the nudist prefer it on weekdays. There were probably 50 people in total, a handful of topless women, and only two other nude people who left shortly after I got down. There were also four or five dirt bikes on the beach and three more parked up on the trail from Bowen Ranch. :/<br /><br />Anyways, I did the hike down nude and didn't see any other nude hikers sadly. Laid out in the sun for a while then I moved to the water. The pools themselves were nice as always and the creek was felt a little warmer and lower. Still chilly but it was hot out so it refreshing. The hike up done nude as well and was uneventful. I showered and had fun with exploring the campground a bit more before getting dressed and heading out.]]></description>
<dc:creator>BearsOnASubmarine</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2024 02:38:08 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Trip report 5-3-2024 first snake! YIKES!</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27363,27363#msg-27363</link><description><![CDATA[ As I was heading to the springs I saw a 3 foot long rattle snake stretched out on the road. So, I backed up and took its picture. It was the first snake I have seen this year. I was about 1 1/2 mile before the Bowen ranch. So, beware !<br />I got to the springs a few minutes before 11 am. There was not a cloud in the sky and a cool breeze made for a comfy hike. When I got my thermometer out the air temp was 74 degrees. The creek water where most cross was 62 degrees. There was about 15 to 20 persons scattered around. Five were through hikers. Later in the day several more showed up. For those who do not know, the Pacific Crest trail goes through the valley. Through hikers hike through on the trail and most stop to rest, eat, relax and clean up. Good idea! As you can imagine after hiking 15 to 20 miles a day on average. They are tired, hungry and smell. I always enjoy meeting and talking with them. They are strong and muscular and beautiful people. Later I met a woman whom made me wish I had brought my back pack so I could got with her. She had Long beautiful gray hair and a nice spirit came from her. She made my day.<br />About 330 pm I got my thermometer out to take the pool temps.<br />The water about 15 feet up stream from the AZ. Pool was 55 degrees.<br />At the Arizona pool some one had put sand bags just below the source. The temp there was 110. The spring there come out at 108 so the sunshine was doing it's thing. On the upstream side of the pool we're several sand bags. I arranged them to block the water from there better. As I was doing this a guy came by with some more sand bags and shovel. We made about 10 more sand bags up and put them on the down stream side of the pool. Before we put the additional bags there the temp was 69 degrees. Afterwards, the temp was 75 degrees. Afterwards this pool was crowded with a large amount of soakers. As the day went forward a large amount of campers started to show up. Many were party animals drinking, smoking and getting loud. Basically enjoyingng life at my favorite hot spring.<br />At the Anniversary pool a friend had cleaned this pool very well. Except there was too much litter which I packed out. The temp there was 110. The sun did that.<br />The Womb pool was crowded also. But clean and a pleasant soak. The temp was 105. Hotter than usual.<br />The Serenity pool was nice at 108 degrees most of the water from the Crab Cooker pool was flowing into it. The Crab Cooker pool was 114 degrees cooler than usual. Dunno why. The Contemplation pool was 95 degrees warmer than expected.<br />For anyone who has not been to the new camp ground, I highly recommend it. Not just for the picnic tables and fire rings. But the friendly atmosphere and fun that can be had there. When I left there were 5 vehicles in the old parking lot called the Bowen ranch. And too many to count at the NEW camp ground. Just saying!<br />After all this it continued to get too crowded so I left earlier than I wanted to.<br />Happy hot springing in the springtime!]]></description>
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<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2024 14:06:06 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: April 12th weekend water level and Flow</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27361,27362#msg-27362</link><description><![CDATA[ From our recent replenishment on the mountains..I'd like to believe the flow isn't at average. I'm heading down next weekend and will let you know but my data analysis won't be as spectacular as Mr. Jobe's.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Petey</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2024 12:31:38 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>April 12th weekend water level and Flow</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27361,27361#msg-27361</link><description><![CDATA[ Does anyone know the water level and the flow of the creek?]]></description>
<dc:creator>NudstRalph</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:28:08 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Miracle Hot Springs closed, again.</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?2,27347,27360#msg-27360</link><description><![CDATA[ According to my research big fan of the website MK Library by the way, <a href="https://www.mklibrary.com/deep-creek-hot-springs-in-southern-california/" target="_blank" >mklibrary.com</a>, late June to early July seems to be prime wildflower season in Deep Creek. But with all the unpredictable weather we've been having, it might be a good idea to temper expectations a bit.<br /><br />Maybe pack some comfy walking shoes just in case? Even if the meadows aren't at peak bloom, a hike through the fresh summer air sounds pretty delightful. Who knows, you might stumble upon a hidden patch of wildflowers putting on a surprise show!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Spicewood</dc:creator>
<category>California Hot Springs</category><pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2024 03:21:31 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Camping and trip report 9/21/23 - 9/24/23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27316,27359#msg-27359</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>peciousaitiff</strong><br/>
Wait, people fuck down there?</div></blockquote><br />Ha, now that's funny! Happens all the time!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2024 17:28:13 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Camping and trip report 9/21/23 - 9/24/23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27316,27358#msg-27358</link><description><![CDATA[ Wait, people fuck down there?]]></description>
<dc:creator>peciousaitiff</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2024 13:55:02 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Camping and trip report 9/21/23 - 9/24/23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27316,27357#msg-27357</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Dck111181</strong><br/> a naked girl asked if I was heading down bc she was looking for someone to take the hike with so my plans immediately changed and headed back down for another great day</div></blockquote><br />I've had a couple of similar situations. One time, 2 young ladies asked me if it was OK to hike nude down the trail to the hot springs. I said yes of course, and since they had not been there before, they asked me to hie with them and show them the way. Needless to say, I spent an unforgettable day at the springs with them- it ended up becoming my first threesome! (No this is not an April Fools joke- really did happen, and eventually inspired me to be in a polyamorous living situation currently).]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2024 10:39:10 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Camping and trip report 9/21/23 - 9/24/23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27316,27356#msg-27356</link><description><![CDATA[ Wow, it sounds like you had an incredible time at the creek! That spontaneous decision to hike down again must've made for some unforgettable memories.]]></description>
<dc:creator>gibsonstoker</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Fri, 29 Mar 2024 06:33:47 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Trip report March 9 2024</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27349,27355#msg-27355</link><description><![CDATA[ Not me the wonderfull wizard of Oz. Just ask Santa Claus, there is No insanitey clause. I never break the law. Do you? I didn't think so either. Don't you remember how Dorithy got home ? That is how! Repete after me : water fall at deep creek. Now tap your heals three times. Repete!<br />Works every time. Me things they doth complain too much!]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2024 20:13:39 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Trip report March 9 2024</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27349,27354#msg-27354</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>jobe</strong><br/>
One week from monday I was at the springs and I got the blue hose and used it to clean the mud off the boulders that most use to travel over. I looked for the drain pipe but did not see it. However this visit it was visabe. It was down hill from where I expected it to be. Maybe ... if we buy some ruby slippers and tap our heals and say - water falls at the spings 3 times they will reappear.</div></blockquote><br />You know you want to reassemble it again(:D]]></description>
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<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2024 18:02:38 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Trip report March 9 2024</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27349,27353#msg-27353</link><description><![CDATA[ One week from monday I was at the springs and I got the blue hose and used it to clean the mud off the boulders that most use to travel over. I looked for the drain pipe but did not see it. However this visit it was visabe. It was down hill from where I expected it to be. Maybe ... if we buy some ruby slippers and tap our heals and say - water falls at the spings 3 times they will reappear.]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:37:45 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Trip report March 9 2024</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27349,27352#msg-27352</link><description><![CDATA[ Joe, thanks for the report! Has anyone ever reinstalled the PVC pipe that emanates from the Anniversary Pool down to the creek? That is always my favorite and provides a nice waterfall.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2024 18:37:51 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Trip report March 9 2024</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27349,27351#msg-27351</link><description><![CDATA[ You are welcome. However, me and the motorcycle dudes all had to turn right not left to avoid crashing. Jut saing,?]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2024 12:43:24 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Trip report March 9 2024</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27349,27350#msg-27350</link><description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the report Jobe !!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Wizard</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2024 11:28:15 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Trip report March 9 2024</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27349,27349#msg-27349</link><description><![CDATA[ I drove to the Freedom trailhead to see how the resent rain storms had affected the roads. They were terrible. The only time I had seen it this bad was in the 90`s after it had rained every day for more than 2 weeks. I scraped the bottom of my truck more than 2 times. There were also many mud puddles still in the road. I will NOT go back this route again until mother nature fixes the road.<br />I got to the springs at 1 pm. When I pulled out my thermometer the air temp was 60 degrees. The water was 49 degrees. I could see probably 30 - 40 people around. I swam as fast as I could to cross the creek. Others were crossing by walking down stream a bit. The water there was up to their chest. This took 3 times longer than swimming.<br />The first regular I saw was mayor David. I chatted with him about 20 minutes.<br />Afterwards I went around and checked the temperatures of the pools. The water of the creek was at the same level as the Serenity pool. Witch was muddy some what with leaves and debris on its bottom. Some one had removed the sand bags there that had directed the water from the Crab Cooker pool to this pool when the water was higher. I corrected this situation later in the day just before I left at sun down. Because it was not crowded then. The temp of the water was 105 degrees in the Serenity pool.<br />The temp of the Womb pool was 103 degrees, this was warmer than expected also.<br />The Anniversary pool temp was 105 degrees. Also warmer than expected. It was a bit muddy also. So, I went up to the source by the Pacific Crest trail to investigate why the water was muddy.? An African guy and an Arabian fellow had and were building a pool there. The water temp was 119 degrees. They asked me to not get in because the water was too hot they said with an Arab accent. They spoke to each other in an Arab language. I told them I was tough just like them. But did not sit down like they did as the pool was too small. Again later in the day, just before sunset, I went and tore this pool down so this heated water could go to the other pools.<br />The Arizona pool was about 4-6 inches under the height of the creek. There was no sand in the pool at all. And the plug from the drainage pipe was missing. Someone had put sandbags just below the source to make a small pool there only big enough for 2 people. Most were only soaking their feet and splashing the hot water on themselves. The temp upstream from the AZ pool was 47 degrees.<br />As I looked around the beach area I spotted 7 tents and 2 other areas where people had just piled up camping equipment. Kind of strange as there is no moon light now. The good<br />news is there was no trash to be found anywhere.<br />While soaking in the Womb pool I got into a conversation with 4 guys from Colorado. I got into telling them about my time when I worked at the nuclear test site in Nevada which was an incredible and multifaceted experience. As my stories became complicated they explained they had done some LSD just before I had got there. And they were extremely fascinated by my stories, tell us more. This seemed like it took 1 hour BUT, it took more than 2 hours. Whereupon they announced that I appeared like a wizard.? That was when they all retired to their camp site amazed beyond belief. VERY INTERESTING!!!!!!<br />As I crossed the creek to go home an unmarked helicopter came flying low and slow over the canyon. I started to get out my camera but, it appeared the copter was about to hit the cliff just above me. So, I ran as quickly as I could. Luckily it did not. So I took pics of it as it was leaving. Then some people from China came to me asking what to do? I explained to them how to cross. It was an elderly couple and their 30ish son. Only the son spoke English. As they were crossing the father got caught in the current and started drowning. Again, I ran as fast as I could to attempt to rescue him. His son got there first, luckily. So, there is a lesson there for us all, be aware at all times.<br />And now I would like to vent about the driving situation I experienced this trip.<br />As I was driving on Bowen ranch road a group of motorcycles came from the opposite direction. The first group of 3 were coming toward me around a curve in the road. One of them was looking at the guy beside him and did not see me about to hit him. I blew my horn to get his attention and made a hard left turn into the embankment. He leaned to the left missing me by inches. I felt like cussing at him but did not. About 8 more cycles came around the curve all slamming on their brakes. I had to pull off the embankment to get the dirt off my bumpers and tires. They all continued on, teenagers all. I hope they learned a lesson !<br />Then as I left on central Avenue as I got near where the railroad crossing is a monster truck with extra bright lights was coming the opposite direction. I flashed my bright lights on an off hoping he would turn off his lights. But noooo. I could not even see my windshield. So I had to stop in the road so I would not crash.<br />Beam me up Scotty as there is no intelligent life here !!!]]></description>
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<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2024 10:17:42 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Miracle Hot Springs closed, again.</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?2,27347,27348#msg-27348</link><description><![CDATA[ Unfortunately, the closure will probably be permanent. The Forest Service is suer concerned about liability and getting sued by the victims' families. I'm glad I had a chance to soak a lot there and at Remington back in the day.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>California Hot Springs</category><pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2024 18:54:41 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Miracle Hot Springs closed, again.</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?2,27347,27347#msg-27347</link><description><![CDATA[ <a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13143235/California-Miracle-hot-spring-deaths-closed.html" target="_blank" >https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13143235/California-Miracle-hot-spring-deaths-closed.html</a>]]></description>
<dc:creator>Tanjja</dc:creator>
<category>California Hot Springs</category><pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2024 18:25:00 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: My son and I are heading down tomorrow morning. Haven't been in a few years. First time visiting was in 1966 with the Boy Scouts!</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27345,27346#msg-27346</link><description><![CDATA[ Please follow up with a trip report. I haven't been in several months now. Here is a link to the creek water height and conditions. Anything over 2 feet and the pools next to the creek are flooded.<br /><a href="https://waterdata.usgs.gov/monitoring-location/10260500/#parameterCode=00065&amp;period=P7D&amp;showMedian=false" target="_blank" >https://waterdata.usgs.gov/monitoring-location/10260500/#parameterCode=00065&amp;period=P7D&amp;showMedian=false</a><br />Also, there is much more posting activity on Reddit, deepcreekhotsprings.]]></description>
<dc:creator>missingbee</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2024 09:21:59 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>My son and I are heading down tomorrow morning. Haven't been in a few years. First time visiting was in 1966 with the Boy Scouts!</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27345,27345#msg-27345</link><description><![CDATA[ <b>Poll</b>: What is my brothers name <br/><br/>Looking forward to the hot springs. Bringing down a good trash bag and I am sure we can fill it. The most beautiful hot springs and such a shame the way it has been abused. Hoping it will be well flushed out and possibly a light rain!<br />I am 70 now so has been in 58 years since the first time. Think we met the Manson family then... Sure looked them!! Good to join your group and keep this wonder well preserved.]]></description>
<dc:creator>SveNeon</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2024 19:00:37 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Bowen ranch history</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27342,27344#msg-27344</link><description><![CDATA[ Hear! Hear! Did not mean to offend. I too have carried my share as well, as well as my children. I must not be talking about the very few of you?]]></description>
<dc:creator>Rattlesnake ranch</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2024 04:47:39 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Bowen ranch history</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27342,27343#msg-27343</link><description><![CDATA[ Rattlesnake Ranch, first off, your son is no better than who you call &quot;ignets&quot;. It is totally inappropriate to carve initials into a tree. No one should do that. For years there have been volunteers who have packed out trash and generally cleaned up the area adjacent to the springs. This continues to occur. However, because of the Internet and the fact that the springs are becoming more well known, there are a certain element of visitor who simply don't respect the place. But thankfully they are in the minority. Deep Creek Hot Springs will stay open as long as people respect the place. This includes taking out your own trash, shitting away from the creek and burying it as deep as you can, keeping dogs on leashes, not bringing firearms, not blasting boom boxes, and of course not drawing or painting graffiti on rocks.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2023 17:41:14 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Bowen ranch history</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27342,27342#msg-27342</link><description><![CDATA[ My son came from Utah this holiday and he went into springs. I have been avoiding them because of bad reports and these new people living in the area. My son came out and told me, “mom don’t go” that is quite disappointing considering his initials are to this day carved into the trees on the creek. He did tell of some of horrors being committed against the area and it is apparent that the curse of the round mountain ranch still goes on. I have always wondered with an aw how people could get so serious over a $1- almost like they had visions of grandeur! And how they could eat their fellow man over it. What a joke! You ain’t going to get rich off the gate take keepers!<br />These people are a class of people I call “ignets”. They are the ones that get full of this imaginary power and at the expense of water sources and the environment, exert that false authority. Instead of being stewards of the lands and give thanks for their allowance to be their, the argue and scrap I’ve shit that has no true value- all the while these other ignets are painting on rocks, trashing the area and shitting in the creek!<br />They don’t get it! They are completely missing it!<br />Joke them if they can’t take a FUCK!🤯🤪😝😉😁😵‍💫😵🤔]]></description>
<dc:creator>Rattlesnake ranch</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2023 15:36:43 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Death at D.C.H.SPRINGS 11-24-23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27328,27341#msg-27341</link><description><![CDATA[ Hi there, been going to the creek for a while but this’ll be my first post here. I was there the three days before Thanksgiving, left the morning of the day before his death. If he was there in that time frame I might be able to place him.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Fenrir_Lupara</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2023 19:48:50 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Death at D.C.H.SPRINGS 11-24-23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27328,27340#msg-27340</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>jobe</strong><br/>
Rick, i tried to pm an answer to your question but was unable to.</div></blockquote><br />Just actually sent me a plethor of messages.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Death at D.C.H.SPRINGS 11-24-23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27328,27339#msg-27339</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>jobe</strong><br/>Her user name is/was nature lover.</div></blockquote><br />Not really. He user name is Naturelover. Makes it hard to find when you get it wrong.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2023 14:30:04 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Death at D.C.H.SPRINGS 11-24-23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27328,27338#msg-27338</link><description><![CDATA[ So, what this woman wants to know is ... was anyone on this site know anything about what happened that night? Any thing will help get to the truth about what really hapened there and then.]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2023 03:34:18 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Death at D.C.H.SPRINGS 11-24-23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27328,27337#msg-27337</link><description><![CDATA[ Rick, i tried to pm an answer to your question but was unable to. Her user name is/was nature lover.]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2023 03:29:20 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Death at D.C.H.SPRINGS 11-24-23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27328,27336#msg-27336</link><description><![CDATA[ The exgirl friend of the dead guy is attempting to get information about what happened that night. She has tried to post here since Thanksgiving. But only got a letter saying she had to be approved. And nothing has happened. This is not the woman who was with him that night but his girlfriend before her. His funeral is tommorow. Glad to help!]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2023 11:31:32 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Death at D.C.H.SPRINGS 11-24-23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27328,27335#msg-27335</link><description><![CDATA[ After talking to several persons about this story I have learned that the female envolved said &quot;she did not want this story public.&quot; So after searching daily through news papers this is why I found nothing. It was determine to be an accident. End of story! I hope, as this is very distubing for many tourist and a bad mark for my favorite hot spring.]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2023 07:48:37 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: BEST MUSIC TO LISTEN TO ON THE ROAD TO D.C.H.S.</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,24158,27334#msg-27334</link><description><![CDATA[ Cold days means hot water, and hot music. Crank it up....]]></description>
<dc:creator>Tanjja</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2023 12:53:23 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Been going for close to 50yrs</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27318,27333#msg-27333</link><description><![CDATA[ I've visited but only about 5 times since 1980.<br />That would be 44 years !<br />Keep it going !<br />John]]></description>
<dc:creator>mdskibum</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2023 22:54:30 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Been going for close to 50yrs</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27318,27332#msg-27332</link><description><![CDATA[ Opps, nevermind, I should have read the rest of the posts before I went on a search. I love reading vintage books like this. A book I have similar to 'Bowen escapade' by Gertie Bowen is 'My First Half Century' by Barbara Bradford. Barbara's journey was very similar to Gertie's the only difference was Barbara's homestead was in Anza's &quot;Cowboy Country&quot;.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Petey</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:52:21 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Been going for close to 50yrs</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27318,27331#msg-27331</link><description><![CDATA[ Hi Annie,<br /><br />Bowens escapade was last sold on Amazon in 2017 and it's currenlty unavailable. The (Amazon Standard Identification Number) for this book is ASIN : ‎B0007JYAIC<br />Perhaps, and I hope, it might be available later on.<br /><br />Here is the Amazon link:<br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Bowen-escapades-Gertie/dp/B0007JYAIC/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8" target="_blank" >https://www.amazon.com/Bowen-escapades-Gertie/dp/B0007JYAIC/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8</a>]]></description>
<dc:creator>Petey</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:23:14 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Death at D.C.H.SPRINGS 11-24-23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27328,27330#msg-27330</link><description><![CDATA[ Your probly right Paul. The reporters are still giving thanks for all of our many blessings. I just talked to a guy who saw them in the contemplation pool. He said it was the girls first time. But the guy had been there before. He said they looked to be in their late 30's to early fourties. And they were on a 1st date? He said it was erie to think he talked to them and then he was dead hours later?<br />What a long strange trip for her.]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2023 16:00:58 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Death at D.C.H.SPRINGS 11-24-23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27328,27329#msg-27329</link><description><![CDATA[ Someone also told me a similar story but that he was found in the crab cooker instead of the womb, haven’t seen any news stories yet maybe won’t be published til Monday?]]></description>
<dc:creator>paulespo</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:09:43 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Death at D.C.H.SPRINGS 11-24-23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27328,27328#msg-27328</link><description><![CDATA[ I have been to the springs today. While there I heard a story about a dead person flouting in the womb pool. The campers I talked with said &quot; a rescue helicoper came in the middle of the night and pulled him out and put blankets over him. First thing in the morning they came back. Two rescue helicopters one for the dead guy and another one for the girlfriend. Who was tripping on LSD aprently.&quot; Can some one here look for this story in a new paper and post a story here, please?]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2023 16:57:38 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Bowen Ranch History</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,6068,27327#msg-27327</link><description><![CDATA[ Yes indeed, those were the days...1970-1972. A lot of folks living feral then;<br /><br /><br /><a href="https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,25790" target="_blank" >https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,25790</a>]]></description>
<dc:creator>Tanjja</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2023 08:17:53 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Bowen Ranch History</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,6068,27326#msg-27326</link><description><![CDATA[ Would Katrina island by chance be the mountain mama that lived on the hillside?]]></description>
<dc:creator>Rattlesnake ranch</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:27:28 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Bowen Ranch History</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,6068,27325#msg-27325</link><description><![CDATA[ I lived in LA in 1970, and that spring I heard about a place out in the desert east of LA called Bowen Ranch.<br />It had a deep river canyon running thru it with hot springs coming out of the canyon wall. Some friends and I<br />went and it was one of the most magical places I had ever been to. The canyon was deep maybe 200 feet<br />with a small river running thru it at the bottom. There was a small grove of cottonwood trees near where<br />the hot springs flowed down the canyon wall to the river. There was a small band of hippies camped there<br />more or less permanently. My friends and I went there almost every week for a few days. And became<br />&quot;semi-residents&quot; ourselves. I wonder if this is the same Bowen Ranch?]]></description>
<dc:creator>oddllee</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2023 16:59:32 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Been going for close to 50yrs</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27318,27324#msg-27324</link><description><![CDATA[ Thank you so much! The link worked well and you have made a lot of friends happy happy! Happy holidaze to you and maybe we will meet some days at the springs one starry night!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Rattlesnake ranch</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2023 19:55:02 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Been going for close to 50yrs</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27318,27323#msg-27323</link><description><![CDATA[ neogeo, your link worked! I was able to download the entire book! Thanks for the scan.<br /><br />Annie, you should be also able to download it.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 19:15:23 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Been going for close to 50yrs</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27318,27322#msg-27322</link><description><![CDATA[ I don't remember anymore how I got my copy, which is only electronic, a pdf scan of the book. I can share the link for download, but I am not sure this site will let me post the link here.<br /><br /><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bi4TWepSK4bskhcx7DhGYRBFIoVlRrj2/view?usp=share_link" target="_blank" >https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bi4TWepSK4bskhcx7DhGYRBFIoVlRrj2/view?usp=share_link</a>]]></description>
<dc:creator>neogeo</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 09:33:36 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Been going for close to 50yrs</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27318,27321#msg-27321</link><description><![CDATA[ I did a google search &quot; bowen escapades copy &quot; and top of the page a person said they had a copy of the book. The date of the entry was May 25, 2008, apparently posted at this forum, deepcreekhotsprings.net , there was a man named Bill who used to be a member of our group from years ago, Deep Creek Volunteers, and he had a copy I think, but he may have passed away by now. You might also try calling the Apple Valley Museum ( name might be different ) located near Apple Valley Road and Bear Valley Road.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Wizard</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:41:42 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Been going for close to 50yrs</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27318,27320#msg-27320</link><description><![CDATA[ Annie, do a thorough search for &quot;Bowen Escapades&quot; on this forum. I vagely recall that someone here had a copy of it and was going to scan it in, perhaps for electronic copies.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:46:08 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Deep Creek Plane Crash 1974</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27319,27319#msg-27319</link><description><![CDATA[ Hi all, I'm doing some research on a plane crash that happened south of Lion Canyon in September of 1974. This was a Piper Comanche, possibly with a light-colored body. Curious if anyone who's visited the area for decades remembers the wreck, which was about 200 yards up from the creek. SB County Sheriff, Forest Service, owner, and pilot have no record/memory of the wreck being removed. But a lot can happen in 50 years! Happy to send photos of the area, if needed.]]></description>
<dc:creator>DCresearch</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:04:56 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Been going for close to 50yrs</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27318,27318#msg-27318</link><description><![CDATA[ I moved to Bowen ranch 1970. I was honored to meet Gertie Bowen and her daughter back then. I would really love to locate a copy of the book she wrote-<br />Bowen escapades. If anyone has information how to locate a copy, please email me or reply to this post with that information? It would be greatly appreciated.<br />Thank you for your time and response-<br />Annie @ the Rattlesnake Ranch, Apple Valley, CA]]></description>
<dc:creator>Rattlesnake ranch</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 01:18:17 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>In search of book “Bowen escapades” written by Gertie Bowen in 1964</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,16077,27317#msg-27317</link><description><![CDATA[ OCLC# 24298458]]></description>
<dc:creator>Rattlesnake ranch</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 01:01:46 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Camping and trip report 9/21/23 - 9/24/23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27316,27316#msg-27316</link><description><![CDATA[ So I spent a few days camping and going to the creek and have to say I had a great time. I arrived Thursday afternoon to the campground which had only a few people camping and got nude and stayed that way until I left Sunday night. Campground filled up on Friday with several other people also nude but majority clothed. Friday am I headed to springs which was a good mix of about 30 people half naked half clothed, headed back way too late and the hike kicked my ass and it got dark and I went up last part wrong way but figured it out, didn't go down Saturday and was about to leave Sunday am but as I was coming from taking a shower a naked girl asked if I was heading down bc she was looking for someone to take the hike with so my plans immediately changed and headed back down for another great day]]></description>
<dc:creator>Dck111181</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2023 00:46:15 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>New to the deep creek village!</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27315,27315#msg-27315</link><description><![CDATA[ Hello I’d like to introduce my wife and I as new locals to the Deep Creek Village. Love the area and we can’t wait to get to know everyone, any villagers active on the forum?]]></description>
<dc:creator>HighAce</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2023 21:14:09 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2023 17:08:45 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<dc:creator>Sam D.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2023 19:25:36 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Trip report 8-27-2023</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27311,27312#msg-27312</link><description><![CDATA[ Gracias Jose Rodrigo Baucum ;-)]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2023 18:39:31 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Trip report 8-27-2023</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27311,27311#msg-27311</link><description><![CDATA[ I just got home from a 3 day camping trip at the D.C.H.S. Campground. Persons at the campground were heading to the burning man art festival.<br />Yesterday I got to the springs at 1:30 pm. It must have been Mexican appreciation day. There were at least 30 Mexican men there. Only 2 Mexican women and the boom box had the same songs I have heard for decades playing. So I did the only thing I knew to do. I took a 2 hour nap. There was only 2 other people with European ancestry and one was speaking Spanish with them. This IS the greatest country ever.<br />So at 4:20 I got my new thermometer out. It said the air temp was 89 degrees. All temps of the pools were taken at their center near the surface.<br />The Arizona pool is leaking again, it was just a little more than half full. The temp there was 113 degrees. I suppose it was leaking because of storm damage. The creek is around 6 inches higherr than the week before.<br />The Anniversaty pool was 109 degrees. I took the blue hose out and cleaned the dead algae and trash out of the pool. It over heated me but that just makes me stronger.<br />The womb pool was 106 degrees. Hotter than I expected. I got the hose out and with a little help from friends we cleaned the dead algae out of this pool also. Thank you seniors and seniorettas. The Serenity pool was having the water deverted from the Crab Cooker pool directly into it. The temp was 107 degrees. The Contemplation pool was full of burrito eaters, thank you for the good food, really needed it. The temp there was 96 degrees. Even hotter was the sauce.<br />The creek water at the spot @20 feet upstream from the Arizona pool was 76 degrees. The creek water where most cross the creek was 78 degrees.<br />I only found a large piece of aluminum foil 2 water bottles and an ugly t shirt for my trash collection. Thanks everyone for help with that.<br />As the sun set a large group of women, all sizes and shapes showed up as I left. Most with sleeping bags and tents. Another terrific time to be at my favorite hot spring.]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2023 21:29:22 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Hurricane Local Statement</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27310,27310#msg-27310</link><description><![CDATA[ Hurricane Hilary Local Statement Advisory Number 9<br />CAZ038-087-088-346&gt;358-362-366&gt;383-548&gt;550-190600-<br /><br />Hurricane Hilary Local Statement Advisory Number 9<br />National Weather Service Los Angeles/Oxnard CA EP092023<br />858 AM PDT Fri Aug 18 2023<br /><br />This product covers portions of Southwest California<br /><br />Hilary to produce rare and dangerous flash flooding and tropical<br />storm-force winds.<br /><br />NEW INFORMATION<br />---------------<br /><br />* CHANGES TO WATCHES AND WARNINGS:<br />- A Tropical Storm Watch has been issued for Catalina and Santa<br />Barbara Islands, Antelope Valley Foothills, San Gabriel<br />Mountains, Interstate 5 Corridor, Santa Clarita Valley, and<br />Highway 14 Corridor<br /><br />* CURRENT WATCHES AND WARNINGS:<br />- A Tropical Storm Watch has been issued for Catalina and Santa<br />Barbara Islands, Antelope Valley Foothills, San Gabriel<br />Mountains, Interstate 5 Corridor, Santa Clarita Valley, and<br />Highway 14 Corridor<br /><br />* STORM INFORMATION:<br />- About 1150 miles south-southeast of Avalon CA or about 1190<br />miles south-southeast of Los Angeles Airport CA<br />- 17.9N 111.4W<br />- Storm Intensity 145 mph<br />- Movement Northwest or 305 degrees at 10 mph<br /><br />SITUATION OVERVIEW<br />------------------<br /><br />Hurricane Hilary will weaken to a tropical storm as it approaches<br />Southern California this weekend. Flash flooding will be possible<br />across Los Angeles and Ventura Counties, and perhaps Santa Barbara<br />County. Rare and dangerous flooding possible across the mountains.<br />Tropical-storm-force winds will be possible Sunday into Monday.<br /><br />POTENTIAL IMPACTS<br />-----------------<br /><br />* FLOODING RAIN:<br />Prepare for life-threatening rainfall flooding having possible<br />extensive impacts across Los Angeles and Ventura Counties, and possibly<br />Santa Barbara County. The most dangerous conditions are expected over<br />the mountains. Potential impacts include:<br />- Major rainfall flooding may prompt many evacuations and rescues.<br />- Small streams, creeks, canals, arroyos, and ditches may become<br />dangerous rivers. Destructive runoff may rage down mountain<br />valleys while increasing susceptibility to rockslides, mudslides,<br />and debris flows. Flood control systems and barriers may become<br />stressed.<br />- Streets and parking lots become rivers of moving water with<br />underpasses submerged. Driving conditions become dangerous. Many<br />road and bridge closures with some weakened or washed out.<br /><br />Prepare for dangerous rainfall flooding having possible limited to<br />significant impacts elsewhere across the area.<br /><br />* WIND:<br />Prepare for hazardous wind having possible limited impacts across Los<br />Angeles and Ventura Counties, with greatest impacts over Catalina<br />Island and Santa Barbara Island, as well as the mountains of Los<br />Angeles County. Potential impacts in this area include:<br />- Damage to porches, awnings, carports, sheds, and unanchored<br />mobile homes. Unsecured lightweight objects blown about.<br />- Many large tree limbs broken off. A few trees uprooted, but with<br />greater numbers in places where trees are shallow rooted. Some<br />fences and roadway signs blown over.<br />- A few roads impassable from debris, particularly within urban<br />or heavily wooded places. Hazardous driving conditions on<br />bridges and other elevated roadways.<br />- Scattered power and communications outages.<br /><br />Elsewhere across Southwest California, little to no impact is<br />anticipated.<br /><br />* SURGE:<br />Little to no impacts are anticipated at this time across Southwest<br />California. However, coastal flooding will be possible especially<br />around Catalina Island and Long Beach.<br /><br />* TORNADOES:<br />Little to no impacts are anticipated at this time across Southwest<br />California.<br /><br />PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS<br />----------------------------------<br /><br />* EVACUATIONS:<br />Listen to local official for recommended preparedness actions,<br />including possible evacuation. If ordered to evacuate, do so<br />immediately.<br /><br />* OTHER PREPAREDNESS INFORMATION:<br />Now is the time to check your emergency plan and emergency supplies<br />kit and take necessary actions to protect your family and secure your<br />home or business.<br /><br />When making safety and preparedness decisions, do not focus on the<br />exact forecast track since hazards such as flooding rain, damaging<br />wind gusts, storm surge, and tornadoes extend well away from the<br />center of the storm.<br /><br />If in a place that is vulnerable to high wind, such as near large<br />trees, a manufactured home, upper floors of a high-rise building, or<br />on a boat, plan to move to safe shelter.<br /><br />If you live in a place particularly vulnerable to flooding, such as<br />near the ocean or a large inland lake, in a low-lying or poor<br />drainage area, in a valley, or near an already swollen river, plan to<br />move to safe shelter on higher ground.<br /><br />* ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF INFORMATION:<br />- For information on appropriate preparations see ready.gov<br />- For information on creating an emergency plan see getagameplan.org<br />- For additional disaster preparedness information see redcross.org<br /><br />NEXT UPDATE<br />-----------<br /><br />The next local statement will be issued by the National Weather<br />Service in Los Angeles/Oxnard CA around 3PM PDT, or sooner if<br />conditions warrant.<br /><br />$$]]></description>
<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2023 13:49:30 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Proposed changes to recreation fees identified by the San Bernardino National Forest</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27308,27308#msg-27308</link><description><![CDATA[ <i>SAN BERNARDINO, Calif., July 21, 2023</i> – The San Bernardino National Forest is proposing changes to recreation fees at nine developed recreation sites on the three ranger districts of the forest.<br /><br />Currently, approximately 40 percent of day-use sites, overnight camping sites and other developed recreation sites are managed without user fees.<br /><br />“We recognize how important these sites are to our local communities and those who use the sites,” said Jonar Rodrigo, Southern Zone Adventure Pass and Recreation Fee Program Manager with the San Bernardino National Forest. “These fee increases will help us maintain the sites to the level and quality people have come to expect, as well as make the fees more consistent throughout the state.”<br /><br />The proposed fees by site and ranger district follow: at the Front Country District, the Applewhite Campground fee would increase from $10 to $25 for a single site. At the Mountain Top District, the Big Pine Flat OHV Staging Area fee would go from free to $5 per vehicle. At the San Jacinto District, the Pinyon Flats Campground fee would increase from $8 to $20 per night and $5 to $10 per additional vehicle; at the Marion Mountain, Fern Basin and Boulder Basin campgrounds the fees would be increased from $10 to $20 per night and $5 to $10 per additional vehicle; the Dark Canyon Campground fee would go from $12 to $20 a night and $5 to $10 per additional vehicle; the Ribbonwood Equestrian Campground fee would change from $15 to $30 per night, and; the Black Mountain Group Campground fees would increase from $50 to $100 (1-24 people), $75 to $150 (25-49 people), $110 to $200 (50-74 people) and $140 to $225 (75-100 people).<br /><br />At the newly built OHV staging area at Big Pine Flat, the Annual Adventure Pass and the full suite of Interagency Passes would be honored.<br /><br />The public is invited to comment on the proposed fee changes to the developed recreation program. The comment period is set to end by close of business on Oct. 1. Bring or mail your written comments to San Bernardino National Forest, Attention: Jonar Rodrigo, 602 S. Tippecanoe Ave., San Bernardino, CA 92408 or communicate by email at <a href="mailto:&#115;&#109;&#46;&#102;&#115;&#46;&#66;&#68;&#70;&#70;&#69;&#69;&#80;&#82;&#79;&#80;&#64;&#117;&#115;&#100;&#97;&#46;&#103;&#111;&#118;">&#115;&#109;&#46;&#102;&#115;&#46;&#66;&#68;&#70;&#70;&#69;&#69;&#80;&#82;&#79;&#80;&#64;&#117;&#115;&#100;&#97;&#46;&#103;&#111;&#118;</a>. Comments can also be submitted at <a href="https://usfs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapSeries/index.html?appid=f6a8f81baf2843c8bd96c8035d8cc3bc" target="_blank" >https://usfs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapSeries/index.html?appid=f6a8f81baf2843c8bd96c8035d8cc3bc</a>]]></description>
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<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 17:07:09 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Trip Report 5-19 2023 , second snake</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27295,27301#msg-27301</link><description><![CDATA[ I was at Blacks Beach last week. There is a very shrubbery cliff and hillside all along the beach. I was walking along and came across a cross a pretty large diamondback rattler moving across the informal trail. I probably would not have seen him if he didn't rattle first. I was lucky.]]></description>
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<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2023 19:13:12 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Trip Report 5-19 2023 , second snake</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27295,27300#msg-27300</link><description><![CDATA[ There is a 4'x 8' raft with ropes to pull your self across. But, I suspect that will be pulled back out and saved for next year soon. About 1/3 of visitors were crossing the old fashioned way. Because it is on,y 5 feet deep and not too dam cold any more.<br />Please help with the trash problem and enjoy.your trip.]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2023 02:17:31 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Trip Report 5-19 2023 , second snake</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27295,27299#msg-27299</link><description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the trip report, Jobe! What was the water level at the creek crossing situation like?]]></description>
<dc:creator>HikerCamper</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2023 10:31:27 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Rattlesnakes</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27295,27298#msg-27298</link><description><![CDATA[ <br/><iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/bSnLQJfA8Sk" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>]]></description>
<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2023 16:32:30 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Trip Report 5-19 2023 , second snake</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27295,27297#msg-27297</link><description><![CDATA[ Oh, I forgot to mention the western diamond back rattler I saw when I was going up hill to relieve my self. He was @ 3 feet long and going up hill also. I did not see him until he was about 3 feet from me. Of course I jumped back imediatly. He was struggling to climb the hill and was nonthreatening. So I gave bim his space and he seemed to know I was NOT going to harm him either. So, the lesson here is to be awear of your surroundings when going to relieve your self. Or you could get into some serious trouble. The other snake i saw was about 2 weeks earlier. He was a baby gopher snake about 2 feet long. It's that time of year again. Be careful!]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2023 04:55:52 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Trip Report 5-19 2023 , second snake</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27295,27295#msg-27295</link><description><![CDATA[ I arrived at the new campground at 1 pm. It was another weather perfect day. The wind was gently blowing into my face the whole way down hill. And there were powder puff clouds blocking the hot sun occasionally. There were only about 20 persons around the spring area. And @ 12-15 through hikers around the beach area. More PCT hikers appeared later.<br />I had a thermometer with me. All temps were taken near the center of the pools and near their surface. The creek has gone down enough so all pools are now above the creek water height. The Arizona pool has some creek water flowing into it making the water colder than usual. The temp there was 96 degrees. It was much warmer near the spring side of the pool. Some one had blocked the flow with rocks and sand up hill near the source. So I took them down so it would flow directly into this ( many persons favorite pool). The Anniversary pool was baking in the sun. The temp there was 112 degrees. Some one had obviously just cleaned the debris from this pool. Thank you to whomever. The Womb pool was also warmer than usual at 108 degrees. The Serenity pool was a real delight at 106 degrees. The Contemplation pool had two Africans lovers in it so I did not bother them. They were talking in what sounded like swahilly, an African language. I wondered if they got here legally. Non of my business! They had a beautiful appearance. And seemed to be deeply in love, hopefully.<br />As the hours passed people were cooling off by jumping into the creek. The water temp at where the beach area was 52 degrees. The water up stream from the Arizona pool was 50 degrees. The outside air temp was 86 degrees. Just before the sun started to go behind the mountain top a large cloud covered the sky cooling every thing and every one for the hike out and up hill. Perfect!<br />On this trip every one seemed to be very happy to be in my favorite hot spring.<br />EXCEPT !!! AS I was leaving I found a large bag with about 30 pounds of ugly stinking trash. As I got near to where the raft is to cross the creek I found a smaller bag with about 10 pounds of ugly stinking trash in it. So I put the small bag into the larger bag and hauled it up the big hill. This would have not have been possible if that big beautiful cloud were not there. WTF ! PLEASE every one. Help keep D.C.H.S. clean and beautiful. PLEASE!]]></description>
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<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2023 16:49:09 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Bradford Ridge Trail</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27291,27294#msg-27294</link><description><![CDATA[ The rain could have messed it up.That trail is too long for me and I got lost on it once going back. Ended up at a bridge and was way off the trail. I must have hiked 15 miles total and could barley walk the next day.]]></description>
<dc:creator>juliankaye</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2023 06:24:14 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Bradford Ridge Trail</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27291,27293#msg-27293</link><description><![CDATA[ Ralph is asking about the title of his post, Bradford Ridge Trail.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Wizard</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2023 00:01:58 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Bradford Ridge Trail</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27291,27292#msg-27292</link><description><![CDATA[ Which trail are you referring? All trails around deep creek hot springs are open. Except at night time, legally. But, we know how citizens follow THAT law.]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2023 06:50:23 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Bradford Ridge Trail</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27291,27291#msg-27291</link><description><![CDATA[ Does anyone know if this trail is open<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Ralph]]></description>
<dc:creator>NudstRalph</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2023 12:32:26 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Trip report 4-17-23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27284,27290#msg-27290</link><description><![CDATA[ Paul, I do not argue with my tax man he has been doing taxes for more than 50 years.<br />Neo, I weren't afraid to swim under there either. Usually cat fish were there or other interesting stuff. Once I found a diamon ring with 3 diamonds in it.<br />It will be interestinv to see how big the large boulder is that is sitting on the up stream wall.<br />Happy springtime!]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2023 11:01:05 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Trip report 4-17-23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27284,27289#msg-27289</link><description><![CDATA[ I remember a young kid showing me down there how he could go underneath the big rock in the creek that makes the Arizona pool/Phoenix pool. I wouldn't do it for a bunch of bucks, but this kid was swimming under it somehow, a little. Back then. I wonder how the pool will look when the waters finally recede. It does seem like the rock has been pushed into the creek further. The pool was so beautiful, makes you a little sad to think - but also yes, amazing.]]></description>
<dc:creator>neogeo</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2023 00:46:22 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Trip report 4-17-23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27284,27288#msg-27288</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>jobe</strong><br/>
In this state if your income is less than 50k and you are over 60 you are exempt from paying income taxes.</div></blockquote><br />Are you talking about California or Florida? This is not true in California. Happy 420 Day!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Paul P.</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2023 10:43:08 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Trip report 4-17-23</title><link>https://deepcreekhotsprings.net/dchs/forum/read.php?1,27284,27286#msg-27286</link><description><![CDATA[ That is spelt tax a 4 letter word, of couse. In this state if your income is less than 50k and you are over 60 you are exempt from paying income taxes. Or so my taxes guy tells me every year. However, Code enforcement fined me 14 hundred for maintaining an unsafe building on my property. It was so because they refused to give me a permit to refurbish it during the covid crisis. The judge said I had to follow the same rules as every one else. In 1999 they fined me 350$ for NOT having 2 US certified trash cans on public display. The thieves excuse ME politicians get us one way or another. And I am NO exception either. And now my spell checker will not let me spell taxs.taxes. dammit! Don't get me started...]]></description>
<dc:creator>jobe</dc:creator>
<category>Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley, California</category><pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2023 22:32:05 -0700</pubDate></item>
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