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<title>SEFI General Discussion :: RE: Quick Poll: Ease of Use of BIS Codes in Structural Design</title>
<link>https://www.sefindia.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=92926#92926</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2026 08:57:23 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Author: &lt;a href="https://www.sefindia.org/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=116" target="_blank"&gt;alpa_sheth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: Quick Poll: Ease of Use of BIS Codes in Structural Design&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 8:57 am (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;
My dear SEFIans,
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;C'mon have a cup of chai and take this 1 minute poll. I promise you, it won't take more than a minute. But let's show the SEFI Community in full strength by participating wholeheartedly. 
&lt;br&gt;The BIS Codes belong to all of us so together we need to participate in giving feedback. It goes a long way to the task of nation-building. 
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;With warm regards, 
&lt;br&gt;Alpa Sheth 
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class="genmed"&gt;&lt;b&gt;admin wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class="quote"&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;Hello Sefians,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;Hope all is going well and other than the heat, things are good with you!!&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;We have all been hearing the emphasis on &amp;quot;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Ease of Doing Business&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot; in our country for a while now. We thought that it would be a good idea, following the same principle, to &lt;span style="font-style: italic"&gt;initiate a conversation&lt;/span&gt; regarding &amp;quot;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Ease of Use of Important BIS Codes in the Practice of Structural Design in India&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;We request you to kindly participate in huge numbers in this &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;one minute anonymous poll on ease of using BIS codes&lt;/span&gt; at this &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&lt;a href="https://forms.gle/Up76mnNSPfmZGQDL7"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; (Google form)&lt;/span&gt; . We believe that this information will be immensely useful to the code-writers and Bureau of Indian Standards in the formulation of Codes. More importantly, it may show a way forward to BIS for getting feedback from the community before final issue of new or revised Codes for implementation.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;Typically BIS issues codes for wide circulation before they are implemented. Potential users of the code are expected to give their feedback on the code. However the number of engineers who give feedback is miniscule. But when the code is implemented, there are loud concerns raised about difficulties in implementing the code, but it may then be a bit late by then or the code is unceremoniously withdrawn which is not a good precedent.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;A poll such as the one being conducted will allow engineers to convey their views quickly to the concerned agencies, and in the long run, allow India to have codes which are easy to use and ensure safety and stability of the built environment.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="https://sefindia.org/poll"&gt;Participate in the Poll Now&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Help Spread the Word&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Share this poll with your professional network to ensure the Bureau of Indian Standards hears the voice of the structural engineering community. Tap these links to share further.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;WhatsApp&amp;gt;&lt;a href="https://api.whatsapp.com/send?text=Structural%20Engineers:%20Help%20shape%20the%20future%20of%20BIS%20Codes!%20Take%20this%20quick%201-minute%20survey%20on%20the%20ease%20of%20use%20of%20IS%20456,%20IS%201893,%20and%20more:%20https://sefindia.org/poll"&gt;WhatsApp &lt;/a&gt; || &amp;lt;LinkedIn&amp;gt;&lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/sharing/share-offsite/?url=https://sefindia.org/poll"&gt;LinkedIn &lt;/a&gt;|| &amp;lt;Twitter&amp;gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https://sefindia.org/poll&amp;amp;text=Structural%20Engineers:%20Help%20shape%20the%20future%20of%20BIS%20Codes!%20Take%20this%201-minute%20survey%20on%20code%20implementation:"&gt;Post &lt;/a&gt; &amp;lt;Facebook&amp;gt; &lt;a href="https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https://sefindia.org/poll"&gt; Share &lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;best regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;SEFI Admin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<dc:creator>alpa_sheth</dc:creator>
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<title>SEFI General Discussion :: Crane Beam Design  Web thk increase is failing the section</title>
<link>https://www.sefindia.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=92924#92924</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2026 14:14:24 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Author: &lt;a href="https://www.sefindia.org/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=6704" target="_blank"&gt;someshwar ganti&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Crane Beam Design  Web thk increase is failing the section&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 2:14 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;
Hi all,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I have been using Prabhakar sirs Crane Beam Design XLS sheet,
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;I found a typical case which I request seniors to clarify
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;I have a Girder section which was passing with 12 mm thk web
&lt;br&gt;but the moment i made it 16 mm thk the design fails (in Prabhakar sirs xls),
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;unfortunately as Prabhakar sir is no more I cannot ask him to clarify or correct the BUG.
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;find attached my detailed explination how and why the design fails
&lt;br&gt;I have made some assumptions, please correct me 
&lt;br&gt;in brief i have used 
&lt;br&gt;Clause&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Cl. 8.4.2.1&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; d/tw &amp;gt; 67&#65533;&amp;#949;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;hence make the section semi compact
&lt;br&gt;or
&lt;br&gt;Table 2
&lt;br&gt;Web is Plastic (d/tw &amp;#8804; 84&#65533;&amp;#949; )&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;which makes it plastic
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;for tw = 16:&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Zp used&amp;#946;_bMdz formulaMdz (kNm)&lt;table align=center style="border-collapse: collapse;border-spacing: 0px;border: 1px solid #6CAFF7;background-color: #F4F4F4;width:98%;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Sans-Serif,Tahoma;font-size:12px;color: black;"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="height:25px; border: 1px solid #6CAFF7"&gt;(Cl. 8.4.2.1)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="height:25px; border: 1px solid #6CAFF7"&gt;Zp_fl = 6 994&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="height:25px; border: 1px solid #6CAFF7"&gt;Ze/Zp = 1.63&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="height:25px; border: 1px solid #6CAFF7"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Ze &#65533; fbd&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="height:25px; border: 1px solid #6CAFF7"&gt;2 055&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="height:25px; border: 1px solid #6CAFF7"&gt; (Table 2 only)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="height:25px; border: 1px solid #6CAFF7"&gt;Zp_full = 12 037&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="height:25px; border: 1px solid #6CAFF7"&gt;1.0&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="height:25px; border: 1px solid #6CAFF7"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Zp_full &#65533; fbd&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="height:25px; border: 1px solid #6CAFF7"&gt;2 170&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="height:25px; border: 1px solid #6CAFF7"&gt;XLS ( the bug)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="height:25px; border: 1px solid #6CAFF7"&gt;Zp_fl = 6 994&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="height:25px; border: 1px solid #6CAFF7"&gt;1.0 &amp;#8592; wrong&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="height:25px; border: 1px solid #6CAFF7"&gt;1.0 &#65533; Zp_fl &#65533; fbd&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="height:25px; border: 1px solid #6CAFF7"&gt;1 261&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;i feel there is a Bug in prabhakar sirs program , I know many will not be having the program, but effectively it just calculating beta_b and which Zp&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;has to be taken (Full Zp or Only Zp of Flanges)
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;can anyone help me out&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<title>SEFI General Discussion :: RE: Field Engineering Talks on FB and Others</title>
<link>https://www.sefindia.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=92923#92923</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2026 06:43:53 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Author: &lt;a href="https://www.sefindia.org/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1894" target="_blank"&gt;suraj&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Creation proposal of a new city INDIA TOWN in India&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2026 6:43 am (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;
&lt;font color="#1d2228"&gt;&lt;font style="background-color:#ffffff"&gt;Creation proposal of a new city INDIA TOWN in India&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;font color="#1d2228"&gt;Creation Proposal of a new city INDIA TOWN in India&lt;/font&gt;
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<title>SEFI General Discussion :: Quick Poll: Ease of Use of BIS Codes in Structural Design</title>
<link>https://www.sefindia.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=92922#92922</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2026 05:00:07 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Author: &lt;a href="https://www.sefindia.org/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1" target="_blank"&gt;admin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Quick Poll: Ease of Use of BIS Codes in Structural Design&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2026 5:00 am (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;
&lt;div align="justify"&gt;Hello Sefians,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;Hope all is going well and other than the heat, things are good with you!!&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;We have all been hearing the emphasis on &amp;quot;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Ease of Doing Business&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot; in our country for a while now. We thought that it would be a good idea, following the same principle, to &lt;span style="font-style: italic"&gt;initiate a conversation&lt;/span&gt; regarding &amp;quot;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Ease of Use of Important BIS Codes in the Practice of Structural Design in India&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;We request you to kindly participate in huge numbers in this &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;one minute anonymous poll on ease of using BIS codes&lt;/span&gt; at this &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&lt;a href="https://forms.gle/Up76mnNSPfmZGQDL7"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; (Google form)&lt;/span&gt; . We believe that this information will be immensely useful to the code-writers and Bureau of Indian Standards in the formulation of Codes. More importantly, it may show a way forward to BIS for getting feedback from the community before final issue of new or revised Codes for implementation.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;Typically BIS issues codes for wide circulation before they are implemented. Potential users of the code are expected to give their feedback on the code. However the number of engineers who give feedback is miniscule. But when the code is implemented, there are loud concerns raised about difficulties in implementing the code, but it may then be a bit late by then or the code is unceremoniously withdrawn which is not a good precedent.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;A poll such as the one being conducted will allow engineers to convey their views quickly to the concerned agencies, and in the long run, allow India to have codes which are easy to use and ensure safety and stability of the built environment.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="https://sefindia.org/poll"&gt;Participate in the Poll Now&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Help Spread the Word&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Share this poll with your professional network to ensure the Bureau of Indian Standards hears the voice of the structural engineering community. Tap these links to share further.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;WhatsApp&amp;gt;&lt;a href="https://api.whatsapp.com/send?text=Structural%20Engineers:%20Help%20shape%20the%20future%20of%20BIS%20Codes!%20Take%20this%20quick%201-minute%20survey%20on%20the%20ease%20of%20use%20of%20IS%20456,%20IS%201893,%20and%20more:%20https://sefindia.org/poll"&gt;WhatsApp &lt;/a&gt; || &amp;lt;LinkedIn&amp;gt;&lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/sharing/share-offsite/?url=https://sefindia.org/poll"&gt;LinkedIn &lt;/a&gt;|| &amp;lt;Twitter&amp;gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https://sefindia.org/poll&amp;amp;text=Structural%20Engineers:%20Help%20shape%20the%20future%20of%20BIS%20Codes!%20Take%20this%201-minute%20survey%20on%20code%20implementation:"&gt;Post &lt;/a&gt; &amp;lt;Facebook&amp;gt; &lt;a href="https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https://sefindia.org/poll"&gt; Share &lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;best regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;SEFI Admin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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