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  <p class="">With CMS now releasing MFPs for IPAY 2027 and preparations already underway for IPAY 2028, the landscape continues to shift. This focused 1-hour webinar brings together advisors from Verpora and Manatt Health — joined for the first time by a US payer perspective — to examine what’s changing and how manufacturers should respond.</p><p class="">Unlike <a href="https://www.verpora.com/on-demand/category/IPAY" target="_blank"><span class="sqsrte-text-color--accent">our previous IPAY webinars</span></a>, which focused on lessons from previous cycles, this session looks ahead — addressing early strategy for selected products, the inclusion of Part B medicines, and the impact of broader political and regulatory developments.</p><h4><strong>In this session:</strong></h4><ul data-rte-list="default"><li><p class="">How CMS’s approach has evolved between IPAY 2026 and 2027 — and what that signals for IPAY 2028</p></li><li><p class="">The new complexity introduced by Part B inclusion in IPAY 2028</p></li><li><p class="">Manufacturer strategy: how early preparation shapes outcomes</p></li><li><p class="">Most Favored Nation (MFN) pricing pressures and negotiation dynamics</p></li><li><p class="">The payer response: formulary strategy, unintended consequences, and future readiness</p></li></ul><h4><strong><br>Thinking ahead to IPAY 2028 or preparing for possible selection?</strong></h4><p class="">Use Verpora’s insight to sharpen your early strategy and better understand what’s coming.</p><p class="">Email <a href="mailto:wanda.lesowiec@verpora.com?subject=IPAY%202028%20Webinar%3A%20Enquiry" target="_blank">wanda.lesowiec@verpora.com</a> to start the conversation.</p>


  




  




  
    

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  <p class=""><strong>Adam Buckler<br></strong>VP Innovative Contracting<br><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-buckler-883a01b2/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></p>


  




  














































  

    
  
    

      

      
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  <p class=""><strong>Omar Ali<br></strong>Head of Payers, Verpora<br><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alipha" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></p>


  




  














































  

    
  
    

      

      
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  <p class=""><strong>Chris Webber<br></strong>Head of Negotiation, Verpora<br><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/chris-webber-uk" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></p>


  




  



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  <p class=""><strong>Ross Margulies<br></strong>Partner,<br>Manatt Health<br><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rossmargulies" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></p>


  




  


































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  <p class=""><strong>Drake Reiter<br></strong>Director, Pharmcy Operations, Priority Health<br><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/drakereiter/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></p>


  




  



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  <p class="">In the final episode of the series, Omar speaks with Dr Abdulrazag Al-Jazairi, Advisor to the Saudi Food and Drug Authority, about the rapidly evolving payer and HTA environment in Saudi Arabia.</p><p class="">They discuss what it means to develop payer infrastructure from the ground up, the influence of international frameworks on domestic decision-making, and how value-based agreements are beginning to play a role in national pricing strategy.</p><p class=""><strong>Key themes:</strong></p><ul data-rte-list="default"><li><p class="">HTA system development in Saudi Arabia</p></li><li><p class="">Local adaptation of international pricing logic</p></li><li><p class="">Role of VBAs in emerging access models</p></li></ul>


  




  



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  <h4><strong>About The Payer Exchange</strong></h4><p class=""><em>The Payer Exchange</em> is a podcast from Verpora that explores how payers around the world are navigating complex pricing and access decisions. Hosted by Omar Ali, Verpora’s Head of Payers, each episode features a one-to-one conversation with a payer from a different healthcare system—offering direct insight into the practical realities of drug funding, reimbursement, and health system sustainability.</p>


  




  




  
    
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  <p class=""><span class="sqsrte-text-color--black">Omar is joined by Professor Lieven Annemans, former chair of Belgium’s health economics advisory committee, to explore the complexities of European HTA policy.</span></p><p class=""><span class="sqsrte-text-color--black">They talk about the role of Joint Clinical Assessment (JCA), the risk of over-assessment in policy design, and the challenge of maintaining local relevance within a harmonised EU framework. Lieven brings perspective on how the purpose of assessment is sometimes lost in the process of implementation.</span></p><h4><span class="sqsrte-text-color--accent"><strong>Key themes:</strong></span></h4><ul data-rte-list="default"><li><p class=""><span class="sqsrte-text-color--black">Joint Clinical Assessment (JCA) readiness and implications</span></p></li><li><p class=""><span class="sqsrte-text-color--black">Local vs EU-level HTA alignment</span></p></li><li><p class=""><span class="sqsrte-text-color--black">Over-assessment, duplication, and unintended bureaucracy</span></p></li></ul>


  




  



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  <h3><span class="sqsrte-text-color--accent"><strong>About The Payer Exchange</strong></span></h3><p class=""><span class="sqsrte-text-color--black"><em>The Payer Exchange</em> is a podcast from Verpora that explores how payers around the world are navigating complex pricing and access decisions. Hosted by Omar Ali, Verpora’s Head of Payers, each episode features a one-to-one conversation with a payer from a different healthcare system—offering direct insight into the practical realities of drug funding, reimbursement, and health system sustainability.</span></p>


  




  



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  <p class="">In this episode, Omar speaks with Canadian health economist and policy advisor Don Husereau about Canada’s unique payer landscape. Don isn’t your typical policy analyst. He’s worked in HTA, advised governments, and written widely about the gaps, flaws, and hidden logic in pricing systems like Canada’s. </p><p class="">They discuss the decentralised nature of decision-making, the gap between evidence generation and clinical practice, and the disconnect between how healthcare science is developed versus how healthcare systems operate. Don shares his perspective on the pressures facing CADTH and how Canadian policy reflects a deeper tension between idealism and pragmatism.</p><p class=""><strong>Key themes:</strong></p><ul data-rte-list="default"><li><p class="">Decentralised payer environment in Canada</p></li><li><p class="">Evidence generation vs clinical practice</p></li></ul>


  




  



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  <p class="">Omar speaks with Dr Krzysztof Landa, former Deputy Minister of  Health, health economist, and someone who’s helped shape the pricing and  HTA landscape in Poland over the past two decades.</p><p class="">They examine  the influence of external pricing references, the practical realities of MFN implementation, and the state of HTA reform. The discussion also  covers the potential role of JCA and how manufacturers can adapt to a  system that combines political oversight with economic rigor.</p><p class=""><strong>Key themes:</strong></p><ul data-rte-list="default"><li><p class="">External reference pricing and its impact in Poland</p></li><li><p class="">MFN price pressure and response</p></li><li><p class=""> HTA reform and the readiness for JCA</p></li></ul>


  




  



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  <p class="">In the opening episode of series two of The Payer Exchange, Omar Ali is joined by Dr Yousaf Ahmad, Chief Pharmacist and Director of Medicines Optimisation at a NHS Integrated Care System.</p><p class="">They explore the practical trade-offs being made inside the NHS today: the pressure to find efficiency without losing sight of quality, the reality of navigating oncology value frameworks, and the challenge of ensuring that VBAs work for both payers and manufacturers. The conversation also touches on the UK’s evolving approach to MFN spillover and combination treatments.</p><p class="">Key themes:</p><ul data-rte-list="default"><li><p class="">NHS cost-effectiveness thresholds and their evolution</p></li><li><p class="">Practical implementation of VBAs in the NHS</p></li><li><p class="">Oncology access and MFN pricing ripple effects</p></li></ul>


  




  



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  <p class="sqsrte-small"><span class="sqsrte-text-color--accent"><strong>Adam Buckler<br></strong>VP Innovative Contracting<br>Verpora<br></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-buckler-883a01b2/" target="_blank"><span class="sqsrte-text-color--black">LinkedIn</span></a></p>


  




  














































  

    
  
    

      

      
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  <p class="sqsrte-small"><span class="sqsrte-text-color--accent"><strong>Omar Ali<br></strong>Head of Payers,<br>Verpora<br></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alipha" target="_blank"><span class="sqsrte-text-color--black">LinkedIn</span></a></p>


  




  














































  

    
  
    

      

      
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  <p class="sqsrte-small"><span class="sqsrte-text-color--accent"><strong>Chris Webber<br></strong>Head of Negotiation, Verpora<br></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-webber-uk" target="_blank"><span class="sqsrte-text-color--black">LinkedIn</span></a></p>


  




  


































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