Impressions: Finding That First Right Employee

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insider_view_v2Throughout 2008 we had an interesting, uh, adventure in hiring, before we found our infrastructure queen, Kate Williams. Kate is blogging the Insider View, as previously self-employed, and now working with us. I expect that she’s going to embarrass the crumb out of me. The intention, however, is to be as transparent in our business as possible, so you can learn what really works (and what really doesn’t.)
Here’s the introduction to this series, including a list of all Insider View posts. Enjoy. Learn. Comment.

Here’s some inside story for you if you’re thinking about hiring an employee, need to but are dreading the responsibility, or have already and are feeling the pain of trying to act as if you know what you’re doing.

Coming to the Interview

It’s the middle of July and I ride up on my People 125 scooter in a sleeveless, long summer dress to interview for a part-time job at Heart of Business. I’ve been reading Mark’s articles for a year, I’ve read Unveiling the Heart of Your Business, and I’ve listened to him talk twice as a business owner myself. What a surprise to be guided to this unlikely moment.

I pull my helmet off and glance into a side view mirror hoping my hair isn’t irreparably smashed. Then I take out my upper and lower retainers–doing the teenage teeth straightening and TMJ repair thing at 47–because I just can’t bear to be speech impaired for their first impression.

I’m nervous walking up the 500 steps to their front door. Mark opens the door before I get there. Don’t trip on your dress, I think and smile. Making it inside in one piece, I knew I was on familiar ground.

The Interview

Holly’s in the kitchen asking if I want something to drink as Mark escorts me into a light, comfortable room with chairs and a big couch. I go for the couch; I don’t know why. As soon as I sit, it wants to pull me into a lean-back slouch with my legs crossed up under me. I fight the natural inclination and perch on the edge, keeping my feet firmly on the ground as Mark starts talking. He lets me know right away that he doesn’t really know what he’s doing, that he has a lot to learn about doing employees.

I’m impressed by his vulnerable honesty and flash on my first graduate program advisor, a published author I admired, who said on our first visit, “Well, I’ve never done this before. We’re going to have to figure this out together.” When I heard that from her, the oldest child in me was deeply disappointed, never managing to manifest that mentor-older sibling relationship. But hearing it from Mark felt like an opening. I knew I could help and that he could receive it. I also suspected that he could be that mentor for me at the same time.

Can You Handle Us? Can We Live with You?

“Holly and I have big personalities. Sometimes we can get into it. How do you handle big emotions?” . . .

Mark hands me a test. “Do you know about the Enneagram?” I say yes, a bit surprised but intrigued. I’m thinking, this is a great twist on the what’s your sign question. I’m wondering what the lucky number is already knowing that I’m a nine–the peacemaker–with a one wing and a one-to-one subtype. I get Mark to tell me that he’s a one–the perfectionist. Oh good, I think, here’s a guy who cares about quality and will not hesitate to let me know what he thinks is right. Oh god, I think, here’s a guy who will challenge my self-esteem regularly. And then there’s Holly who I find out is a four–more on that in future posts . . .

Mark comes back in. He finishes going through his scripted questions. He’s cautious. He so doesn’t want to make another hiring mistake. I go through mine, and I so want to make sure that I’m not there just because I’m afraid my business won’t support me.

An hour passes, and I find out that now it’s Holly’s turn. I take a deep breath. All this for a part-time admin assistant position. Yet it feels exciting because these people are as sincere and genuine about communication as I am. I think they’re over the top, and I like it.

Nearly two hours later . . . “Good to connect,” hugs, “We’ll call you . . .” They did . . .

If You Are New to Hiring Employees, Say So

Anybody worth your attention will know right away whether you know what you’re doing as an employer. Why not let them know up front. Find someone who is able and willing to be your guinea pig, someone who may even have experience managing employees themselves.

When you are at the point where you need to hire help, you don’t want to add the extra burden of having to be an all-knowing employer who takes on an employee who expects to simply follow his or her commands. And your employee doesn’t want to find out soon after they’re hired that the security they sought as an employee is paper thin.

Don’t be afraid to reveal some of your weak areas. The kind of employee you want to help you move from a single person to a multiple person business will want to support you at your learning edges. They will also want to be supported at theirs.

If you choose this level of transparency, find ways to acknowledge and reward your employee for the in between role they’re playing. It is your business, you make the decisions, but remember that that employee is willing to act as your peer and guide as you continue learning what it means to be an employer and grow your business beyond your own power and creative input.

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  • Jennifer Louden
    Reply

    What a wonderful post — a lovely subtle exploration of the dynamic we all want when we hire someone!

    YEAH!

    Jennifer Louden

  • Hiro Boga
    Reply

    Kate, thank you for this lovely, evocative story of your first meeting with Mark and Holly, woven in with your wisdom about how to bring heart and authenticity to hiring and being hired. It’s so good to hear your voice here!

    Love and hugs, Hiro

    Hiro Boga

  • Mahala
    Reply

    Beautiful post, Kate. I hear you being true to yourself, something I’ve valued in Mark for a long time.
    I wish you all the best for your growing, unfolding experience.

    Mahala

  • Havi Brooks (and duck)
    Reply

    Oh, Mark and Holly are the best-est.

    And yes, speaking truth is the way to go.

    Though ack, hiring. The whole process can bring up so many vulnerabilities on all sides.

    Weirdly (or not), the best hiring experience I’ve had in my business is my new (one month +) assistant Marissa whom I love and adore completely.

    And I was so 100% sure that I wanted her doing something on my team that I didn’t even interview her. Usually it takes me forever to hire. This time, we didn’t even speak on the phone until after I’d already given her the job. I knew we’d have time for that later. This still seems completely crazy to me, but oh well.

    Anyway, yay that you guys found each other and that your connection is giving you all that you need.

    Havi Brooks (and duck)

  • GirlPie
    Reply

    You certainly paint a vivid picture — with swell detail (the retainer! The helmet hair!) and a fun twist (all for a PT admin asst?!?) Your lessons are kind and valid for adults, although the needs of being a mentor/employer to wanna-be’s right out of school is quite different — more like paid internships for students — but I can learn a lot from your gentle post (and appreciate the link to a study I know in another field; will be fun to read about it in business.)

    Thanks for the inside story! (And good luck working with a 1 and a 4 — coincidentally the security question? — yeesh!)
    [Just kidding!]

  • Jessica Reagan Salzman
    Reply

    Kate! I loved reading this. The descriptiveness and the way you speak in your writing? It made me feel like I was there with you. Thank you for sharing. This was awesome to read.

    I’ve gone through this process too many times myself and was going through it again at the exact same time you, Mark, and Holly were. So this was just really close to home for me and I’m so grateful for your insider’s story!

  • Char
    Reply

    Kate:

    Thank you so much for sharing your experience with hiring. And I loved all the details as well – so glad that you’re part of the HOB team. I can see how you are a great addition!

    xoxox

    Char

  • Brad Swift
    Reply

    Wonderful article, Kate. It’s great to be entertained while learning. And such a good idea to have you become a guest writer of the blog. Adds a whole new dimension. One that I may have to ‘steal’ and use in some way on the Living & Working On Purpose Blog (http://www.lifeonpurposeblog.com)

    Let’s see… what would be a good fit? Maybe, some of our Life On Purpose Coaches becoming guest writers on a subject of their passion. Thanks for helping to get the wheels turning.

  • Kate
    Reply

    Wow! It’s exciting to begin a conversation with limitless input and perspectives.

    @Jennifer Louden–Thank you. I have interviewed for a good number of jobs in my life, and just the sense of integrity and level of communication skills alone left me willing to peel grapes for Heart of Business if it meant having the opportunity to work on that growing edge relationally. 🙂

    @Hiro Boga–I always appreciate the tenderness with which you respond to me. Thank you for your encouragement. And I glad you enjoyed the storyness of it. Hope to keep that coming.

    @Mahala–What a wonderful compliment Mahala. Thank you. It is such a gift to have a place where I am so welcomed to share my effort to be true to myself.

    @Havi Brooks–Thank you for you support and sharing your recent hiring process. I’d love to hear more about how you know you wanted this person on your team. What made you trust yourself so deeply and intuitively? There is a lot to be said about knowing someone will be good on your team even if you might have to do more practically training than you would with someone else. How many people are on your team? What was the process of your first hire(s) like for you? How did you feel vulnerable? How did you deal with those vulnerabilities?

    @GirlPie–I’m glad you enjoyed the detail. It’s always fun to find the ways into bringing story to life. You make a great point about experience and maturity levels and the different challenges they bring to the hiring process–“although the needs of being a mentor/employer to wanna-be

  • Kate Williams
    Reply

    Brad,
    Good to hear from you! Glad you enjoyed the post and even more so that it got your wheels turning. Steal away! The richer we can make conversations between us all the richer the world. What if you were to ask your guest writers to explore topics that relate in some way to the influence ‘Life on Purpose’ has had on their own coaching or on them personally in a way that has enhanced what they are able to offer others?

    Kate Williams

  • Cristina Favreau
    Reply

    Kate, what a beautiful story.

    It was a nice surprise to read about each of your Enneagram types. This will make for an interesting mix!! (I like GirlPie’s comment about ‘coincidentally the security question?’)!

    I look forward to following you here!!

  • Kate Williams
    Reply

    @Cristina Favreau: I appreciate your feedback and interest. So tell me more about “interesting mix” and the security question piece. 🙂 I have my sense of it, but I still have a lot to learn about Enneagram dynamics. I look forward to following your blog as well. Just signed in to get them by email.

    Kate Williams

  • Shannon Wilkinson
    Reply

    Wonderful blog post Kate. What a great idea to add your voice and perspective to the mix. Also, it’s funny about the enneagram, someone just asked me what I am. I have no idea. So, thanks for the link for further exploring. Looking forward to your next post!

    Shannon Wilkinson

  • Kate Williams
    Reply

    Hey,
    Thanks for checking out the post. It is definitely an interesting dynamic to be voicing my perspective–a testament to Mark and Holly’s commitment to transparency and integrity.

    The Enneagram continues to fascinate me. It is actually a pretty intricate personality assessment system. It actually had Sufi origins. There are many more general sites that you can check out beyond the business focused one that I linked to.

    Have fun with it. Let me know what you come up with.

    Kate Williams

  • Kelley Eskridge
    Reply

    Kate, a great story well told. Thank you!

    I come to this from the perspective of someone who built and led a large team in a big company and had to interview/hire a lot. And I know that it’s worth the time and energy to engage in the process, to be transparent and authentic. Because if we can’t work together as ourselves, better to find out at the start, no?

    We spend so much time in corporate culture protecting ourselves from each other. It’s hard to be vulnerable in the ways you’re describing. But holy wow, it’s so important and so amazing when we can actually be human with each other as we work. When we can be all about business and focus and getting it done together — and feel in those moments as if we are really there, really engaged, not just phoning it in and counting the hours until the next paycheck. That’s when things become transformational.

    I’ve had people chuckle at the idea of a j-o-b being a transformational experience. But I’ve been there, and I know that it can happen anywhere, anytime, if people are willing.

    I’m so happy for all of you that you’re building this team. Good for you for showing other people how it can be done.

    Kelley Eskridge

  • Kate
    Reply

    Kelly,
    Thanks for adding your perspective and great insights. Before freelancing as a writer/editor, I worked as a director at a naturopathic medical school where I also hired, managed, and fired within an institutional structure. It is a challenging environment to be vulnerable in. It is so ingrained in our larger work culture to spend a lot of time “protecting ourselves from each other.”

    Being authentic is creative, inspiring, frightening to many and, yes, amazing when it is received, sobering when it’s not. And people like you and I continue to show up believing in the transformative potential of j-o-b-s. It is the willingness you mention that is tricky to generate in a work environment firmly set in its ways.

    I think leadership is the critical ingredient in generating company-wide willingness. Taking a step back from that, it’s the juncture where large corps or non-profits choose new leaders that is maybe most critical when the open arises.

    You and I can work to improve our areas, but it is the leading energy that has can ultimately (of course with intentional input from all involved) make lasting course corrections.

    I’m rambling. It’s such a rich topic and deserves a load of attention. May we all find the places where our work is “alive” as Mark and Holly would say.

    Cheers to that . . .

  • Jane Potter
    Reply

    Kate,I just read your post. Kate your ability to write your experience is incredible. Most “employees” could not possibly express what you wrote even if they experienced it in the same way. I hope Mark and Holly realize the level of skill you possess. This blog idea is successful because of your ability to have insight into yourself, consider what topic would be appropriate for sharing, willingness to be vulnerable and your writing ability. Wow, really, really a great job! JP

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