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		<title>34 Blood-Stained Resources for Good Friday</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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<h2>Blogs</h2>
<p>1) <a title="Why is the Cross So Important for Christians?" href="https://christcentred.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/why-is-the-cross-so-important-for-christians/">Why is the Cross So Important to Christians &#8211; Christ Centred</a>: This is by far my most visited post. It doesn&#8217;t go into a great deal of detail and I&#8217;m sure that I need to update it so that people can get more useful information from it. But it is what it is and I hope it can be of use to you.</p>
<p>2) <a title="Expiation and Propitiation" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/LigonierMinistriesBlog/~3/T2QiCsX6tFQ/">Expiation and Propitiation: Two Important Words This Good Friday &#8211; R.C. Sproul</a>: The difference between the two is essential to understanding exactly what God did on the cross.</p>
<p>3) <a title="Where Love and Mercy Meet" href="http://www.john-stevens.com/2013/03/where-love-mercy-meet-substitution.html">Where Love and Mercy Meet: Substitution, propitiation and Revelation at the Cross &#8211; John Stevens</a>: Four things that we need to see when we look at the Cross.</p>
<p>4) <a title="The Very Best Friday" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheGoodBookBlog/~3/n3adRS8TJS0/">The Very Best Friday &#8211; Good Book Blog:</a> The Good Book Blog explains what&#8217;s so good about Good Friday.</p>
<p>5) <a title="The Beauty of the Blood-Stained Cross" href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevinwax/2010/03/29/the-beauty-of-a-blood-stained-cross/">The Beauty of the Blood-Stained Cross &#8211; Trevin Wax</a>: Yes it is beautiful and it would be good for us to look at it more and more.</p>
<p>6) <a title="Can We Say God Died?" href="http://feeds.theresurgence.com/~r/TheResurgence/~3/qwyBqi0pI8o/can-we-say-god-died">Can We Say God Died- Douglas Wilson</a>: See Wilson&#8217;s answer to this difficult.</p>
<p>7) <a title="Of First Importance" href="http://www.albertmohler.com/2013/03/29/of-first-importance-the-cross-and-resurrection-at-the-center-3/">Of First Importance: The Resurrection and the Cross at the Centre &#8211; Al Mohler</a>: Al Mohler studies the important information in 1 Corinthians 15 and sees what it tells us for what is essential in the Christian Life</p>
<p>8) <a title="Good Friday" href="http://darrellcreswell.wordpress.com/2013/03/29/good-friday-a-day-that-will-live-in-infamy/">Good Friday: A Day That Will Live in Infamy but Rejoice for Eternity &#8211; Darrell Creswell</a> : A simple meditation on how the Cross Rocks.</p>
<p>9) <a title="Good Friday" href="http://markmeynell.wordpress.com/2013/03/29/good-friday-and-the-crucifixion-of-shame/">Good Friday and the Crucifixion of Shame &#8211; Mark Meynell</a>: The author of Cross Examined (see below) hits upon an aspect we don&#8217;t often think of, how the cross of Christ crucifies our shame.</p>
<p>10) <a title="The Cross of Christ" href="http://itsadiel.com/the-cross-of-christ-and-his-glorious-resurrection/">The Cross of Christ and His Glorious Resurrection &#8211; Adiel</a>: Christ Centred reader Adiel recommends two of his favourite books for this weekend.</p>
<p>11) <a title="Christ Died for Us" href="http://christthetruth.wordpress.com/2013/03/05/christ-died-for-us-we-died-in-him/">Christ Died for Us &#8211; We Died in Him &#8211; Glen Scrivener</a>: Glen Scrivener explains what happened at the cross in terms of Union with Christ.</p>
<p>12) <a title="Cross Words" href="http://www.andysstudy.com/2007/06/cross-words.html">Cross Words &#8211; Andy Evans</a>: Meditations on Cross and Christian Ministry to inspire pastors in what a day like today means for ministry.</p>
<h2>Books</h2>
<p>13) <a title="Death by Love" href="http://www.thinkivp.com/9781433535338">Death by Love &#8211; Mark Driscoll</a> This is probably my favourite book on the cross. Mark Driscoll takes various doctrines of the cross and writes a letter to a real person about how this doctrine can change their life. Well worth a read. <a title="Death by Love: Mark Driscoll &amp; Gerry Breshears" href="https://christcentred.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/death-by-love-mark-driscoll-gerry-breshears/">Check out my review</a>.</p>
<p>14) <a title="Fifty Reasons Jesus Came to Die" href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017JWL8M?tag=dietofbookwor-20">Fifty Reason&#8217;s Jesus Came to Die &#8211; John Piper</a>: This book is <a title="Fifty Reasons Why Jesus Came to Die" href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017JWL8M?tag=dietofbookwor-20">on sale at the Amazon store</a>. This is a short book with great meditations on why Jesus came to die, with tonnes you may never have thought about before.</p>
<p>15) <a title="All Loves Excelling" href="http://puritanpaperbacks.com/bookshelf/all-loves-excelling-the-saints-knowledge-of-christs-love-by-john-bunyan/">All Loves Excelling &#8211; John Bunyan</a>: This is one of my all time favourite Puritan Paperbacks. John Bunyan meditates on Jesus&#8217; great love for us. Stirring stuff.</p>
<p>16) <a title="Pierced for our Transgressions" href="http://www.thinkivp.com/9781844741786">Pierced for Our Transgressions &#8211; Steve Jeffery, Mike Ovey and Andrew Sach</a>: A sadly necessary book, answering objections to Penal Substitution, it actually ends up inspiring us to worship and joy at the foot of the cross.</p>
<p>17) <a title="Cross of Christ" href="http://www.thinkivp.com/9781844741557">Cross of Christ &#8211; John Stott</a>: Every UK Christian has been recommended to read this book a thousand times and many have never quite got round to it. The chapters are quite long, which can make it hard for some, but it is worth the effort. A spiritual classic.</p>
<p>18) <a title="Cross Examined" href="http://www.thinkivp.com/9781844744763">Cross-Examined &#8211; Mark Meynell</a>: Meynell has written probably the best summary of the cross for people who aren&#8217;t keen readers. There is some great insight in here and the application questions at the back are well worth working through.</p>
<p>19) <a title="Scandalous" href="http://www.thinkivp.com/9781844744169">Scandalous &#8211; D.A. Carson</a>: I haven&#8217;t read this one all the way through yet, but what I have read is excellent. My wife has particularly found this helpful, so it may be a good try for people who aren&#8217;t regular readers.</p>
<h2>Sermons</h2>
<p>20) <a title="A Ransom For Many" href="http://www.capitolhillbaptist.org/audio/2008/01/a-ransom-for-many-mark-1045/">A Ransom For Many &#8211; Mark Dever</a>: Just a great sermon on Mark 10:45.</p>
<p>21) <a title="The Cry from the Cross" href="http://tgc-audio.s3.amazonaws.com/mahaney_cj/mahaney-02_the_cry_from_the_cross_resolved_06-16-08.mp3">The Cry from the Cross &#8211; C.J. Mahaney</a><span style="color:#333333;">: I&#8217;d be surprised if you haven&#8217;t heard this before but it is powerful</span></p>
<p>22) The Cup &#8211; C.J. Mahaney: Again, really helpful. But oh so painful.</p>
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<p>23) <a title="The Center of the Whole Bible" href="http://theresurgence.com/2008/12/22/a-day-with-dr-don-session-1-video">The Centre of the Whole Bible &#8211; D.A. Carson</a>: The next three sermons are from talks that form the basis of D.A. Carson&#8217;s book Scandalous. Here Carson argues that what happened in Jesus&#8217; death is the centre of the whole bible.</p>
<p>24) <a title="The Strange Triumph" href="http://theresurgence.com/2008/12/29/a-day-with-dr-don-session-2-video">The Strange Triumph of a Slaughtered Lamb &#8211; D.A. Carson</a>: Just for something different, why not take a look at the death of Jesus from the vantage point of Revelation.</p>
<p>25) <a title="The Ironies of the Cross" href="http://theresurgence.com/2009/01/10/a-day-with-dr-don-session-5-video">The Ironies of the Cross &#8211; D.A. Carson</a>: This is a good old-fashioned &#8220;Good Friday&#8221; kind of sermon. If you didn&#8217;t get one, take a look.</p>
<h2>Video</h2>
<p>26) Rescued &#8211; Igniter Media: A simple meditation on all the things the death of Christ saves us from.<br />
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<p>27) Why do they call it Good Friday?: A simple explanation that could be really helpful for non-Christian friends.</p>
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<p>28) My Last Day &#8211; Jesus&#8217; Crucifixion in Anime: I&#8217;ve shown this to young people and they loved it.<br />
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<p>29) The Jesus Film: Okay this is a time investment. You can skip towards the end where the crucifixion is happening. The most watched movie of all time.</p>
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<p>30) Curse Motif of the Atonement &#8211; RC Sproul: Find out why curse is a necessary motif in the Atonement.</p>
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<p>31) 3-2-1 Gospel Presentation &#8211; Good thing to share on a day where your friends may actually be thinking about the Gospel.<br />
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<h2><span style="font-size:1.5em;">Podcasts</span></h2>
<p>32) <a title="White Horse Inn" href="http://www.whitehorseinn.org/blog/2013/03/24/whi-1146-the-arrest-trial-crucifixion-of-jesus/">The Arrest, Trial and Crucifixion of Jesus = White Horse Inn</a>: If you haven&#8217;t listened to the White Horse Inn, you need to. It is a discussion between four guys of different denominational backgrounds. They discuss the things that unite Evangelicals. The entire of their series on John has been really worshipful and I&#8217;m sure this session will really encourage and challenge you today.</p>
<p>33) <a title="What is the Gospel?" href="https://christcentred.wordpress.com/2013/02/23/what-is-the-gospel/">The Gospel &#8211; Christ Centred</a>: I&#8217;m pleased to say again that my listeners have impeccable taste and that this is by far and away my most popular podcast. Listen to find out the Gospel.</p>
<p>Phew&#8230; there we go. Oh but wait, where is 34. Well it&#8217;s going  to be down below in the comments section, where you add your favourite Good Friday resource&#8230;</p>
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		<title>What about God killing people in the Old Testament?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do you sometimes wonder why God would do something as brutal as kill people in the Old Testament? Read on to find out why this is not as bad as it seems.]]></description>
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<p>There are some questions that trouble non-Christians that really don&#8217;t trouble Christians.</p>
<ul>
<li>&#8220;Is there such a thing is as truth?&#8221; seems so self-evident.</li>
<li>&#8220;Is the crucifixion cosmic child abuse?&#8221; is easy to answer if you&#8217;ve read the Bible yourself.</li>
<li>&#8220;Is Christianity anti-Semitic?&#8221; seems ridiculous when you know the church was founded by 12 Jewish guys who followed another Jewish guy who was fulfilled the great Jewish hope.</li>
</ul>
<p>Although we are happy to answer the questions of our friends and family, these things rarely ever make us struggle.</p>
<p>But there are some questions that do.</p>
<p>One such question is about God killing people in the Old Testament. God seems utterly brutal to do such a thing. How can we reconcile this with the loving God of the New Testament?</p>
<p><a title="The Blue Fish" href="http://thebluefish.org">Dave Bish</a> has put up an excellent blog post entitled &#8220;<a title="What about God killing people in the Old Testament?" href="http://thebluefish.org/2013/03/what-about-god-killing-people-in-old_18.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thebluefish+%28thebluefish.org.uk%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader">What about God killing people in the Old Testament?</a>&#8221; where he discusses these issues. I would urge you to read the post for yourself. Let me summarise the main arguments here and then add some thoughts of my own.</p>
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<h2>No difference between Old Testament and New</h2>
<p>Dave correctly recognises that the often hold assumption that &#8220;The God of the Old Testament is mean and of the New is nice&#8221; is totally unfounded. Here are his arguments:</p>
<blockquote><p>a) Because we have one Bible, one God (in three persons).<br />
b) Because of Ananias and Sapphira. What&#8217;s with that?<br />
c) Because it&#8217;s not Love vs Wrath. Wrath is love&#8217;s right response to evil.<br />
d) Because the Bible&#8217;s own self-reflection is that the God of the Old Testament is too gracious not too mean. The persistent question isn&#8217;t why people die its why they keep getting forgiven. See the objections of Jonah the prophet sent to tell good news to the nasty city of Nineveh. He rages at God: I knew you&#8217;d forgive them so I ran away from preaching too them.</p></blockquote>
<p>What terrible news! The God of the New Testament is as much a God of wrath as the God of the Old. Do we want to believe in this God?</p>
<p>Dave argues: <strong>&#8220;Actually, &#8216;The God of the Old Testament&#8217; is too forgiving.&#8221;</strong></p>
<h2>The Grace of the God of the Old Testament</h2>
<p>Dave points out many examples of the grace of God in the Old Testament:</p>
<blockquote><p>i) They were given 400 years to turn to Christ from killing their children and various other evil practices. That&#8217;s pretty excessive patience. Before we weep over their deaths we should weep over the evil they perpetrated while God was being patient with them.<br />
ii) Played out on the stage of global politics was the liberation of Israel from slavery Egypt 40 years earlier (told in the book of Exodus). Everyone in Canaan knew about that. The account of Rahab tells us that everyone knew and everyone took a view on the matter.<br />
iii) People, like Rahab the Canaanite prostitute, heard and turned to God. Everyone could do that.<br />
iv) No-one had to die. They were asked to leave the land that they&#8217;d been occupying. They heard all that they heard, and stood their ground. Those who died died in defiance. It&#8217;s a picture in human history of the defeat of defiant evil. A picture of Jesus&#8217; death and resurrection.<br />
v) The same people used to exile/judge Canaan were subject to the same judgement themselves when they were exiled because they&#8217;d turned from Jesus to do the things that the people in Canaan did. There was no favouritism here.<b>&#8220;The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.&#8221;</b></p></blockquote>
<p>I think this is the most robust answer to the question I have ever heard and raises up some examples I had never thought about. God overflows with grace, even to these most wretched people. There is good news here, there is something to praise God for, even in these blood-chilling passages.</p>
<h2>What does this have to do with me?</h2>
<p>But what does this have to do with us? In my podcast on <a title="How to Read the Old Testament" href="https://christcentred.wordpress.com/2013/03/09/how-to-read-the-old-testament/">How to Read the Old Testament</a>, I suggested a three-step approach to reading the Old Testament. Let&#8217;s use this to examine this issue:</p>
<h3>1.What did it mean to the original hearers?</h3>
<p>The Old Testament believers clearly saw it as God&#8217;s grace that he destroyed these people. As Dave rightly says, this was a people who killed their own children as part of their worship to God.</p>
<p>It would also been something of sheer amazement to them that people like Rahab actually could be forgiven their sins. A prostitute, who was as much part of this sinful society as anyone else, was redeemed simply by putting her faith in the God of Israel. This would have stunned them.</p>
<h3>2. What similarities are there now in Christ?</h3>
<p>We would do well to look carefully at the despicable sins of the Canaanites. The same heart lies within each of us.</p>
<p>We murder babies. We just do it at a hospital rather than a temple.</p>
<p>We trap women in prostitution. We just do it on our computer screens.</p>
<p>We worship other gods. We just worship &#8220;Me&#8221; rather than &#8220;Baal&#8221; .</p>
<p>Jesus is a just God. He will return and he will punish the wickedness that has cursed his world. A tear was never meant to be shed on this planet and the cause of every one will be punished. We have a new Joshua and he will destroy all the Canaanites.</p>
<p>But we are the Canaanites.</p>
<p>That is why the next part is so fantastic. This Joshua not only killed the sinners. He sacrificed himself that the sinners may go free and be changed. Just as Joshua allowed the woman who pleaded for salvation to live, so Jesus allows anyone who truly pleads to be saved.</p>
<h3>3.Think how it applies to yourself</h3>
<p>The murder of people should not cause Christians to stumble. We should recognise that we don&#8217;t see our sin as clearly as God does. Rather we should look to the abundant grace evident in the Old Testament and say to God &#8220;Why O Lord such love to me?&#8221;</p>
<h2>What about you?</h2>
<p>Have you struggled with this issue? Are there any questions you have about this difficult question? Or do you have something to add to Dave&#8217;s ideas?</p>
<p>Oh and before you go, if you haven&#8217;t already, <a title="What about God killing people in the Old Testament?" href="http://thebluefish.org/2013/03/what-about-god-killing-people-in-old_18.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thebluefish+%28thebluefish.org.uk%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader">read Dave&#8217;s article for yourself</a>. It&#8217;s a real cracker.</p>
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<li><a title="Rejected by God" href="https://christcentred.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/rejected-by-god/">Rejected by God</a></li>
<li><a title="Why Do You Need the Bible?" href="https://christcentred.wordpress.com/2013/03/02/why-do-you-need-the-bible/">What is the Gospel?</a></li>
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					<description><![CDATA[This list comes from "A Call to Spiritual Reformation" by D.A. Carson and shows every single prayer Paul prays.]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:left;">In <a title="The Greatest Prayer Tip I Ever Received" href="https://christcentred.wordpress.com/2013/03/12/the-greatest-prayer-tip-i-ever-received/">The Greatest Prayer Tip I Ever Received</a>, I recommend using the prayers of Paul as inspiration for prayer.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Of course finding the prayers of Paul can be a challenge. So I have compiled a list of all of Paul&#8217;s prayers, prayer reports, prayer requests and exhortations to prayer. This list comes from &#8220;A Call to Spiritual Reformation&#8221; by D.A. Carson and shows every single prayer Paul prays.</p>
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<h2 style="text-align:justify;">Prayers of Paul</h2>
<p>(All quotations are ESV)</p>
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<td>Romans 1:8–10</td>
<td>8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is proclaimed in all the world. 9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I mention you 10 always in my prayers, asking that somehow by God’s will I may now at last succeed in coming to you.</td>
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<td>Romans 10:1</td>
<td>Brothers, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved.</td>
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<td>Romans 12:12</td>
<td>Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer.</td>
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<td>Romans 15:5–6</td>
<td>5 May the God of endurance and encouragement grant you to live in such harmony with one another, in accord with Christ Jesus, 6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.</td>
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<td>Romans 15:13</td>
<td>May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that by the power of the Holy Spirit you may abound in hope.</td>
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<td>Romans 15:30–33</td>
<td>30 I appeal to you, brothers, by our Lord Jesus Christ and by the love of the Spirit, to strive together with me in your prayers to God on my behalf, 31 that I may be delivered from the unbelievers in Judea, and that my service for Jerusalem may be acceptable to the saints, 32 so that by God’s will I may come to you with joy and be refreshed in your company. 33 May the God of peace be with you all. Amen.</td>
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<td>1 Corinthians 1:4–9</td>
<td>4 I give thanks to my God always for you because of the grace of God that was given you in Christ Jesus, 5 that in every way you were enriched in him in all speech and all knowledge— 6 even as the testimony about Christ was confirmed among you— 7 so that you are not lacking in any gift, as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ, 8 who will sustain you to the end, guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.</td>
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<td>1 Corinthians 16:23</td>
<td>The grace of the Lord Jesus be with you.</td>
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<td>2 Corinthians 1:3–7</td>
<td>3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 4 who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. 5 For as we share abundantly in Christ’s sufferings, so through Christ we share abundantly in comfort too. 6 If we are afflicted, it is for your comfort and salvation; and if we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which you experience when you patiently endure the same sufferings that we suffer. 7 Our hope for you is unshaken, for we know that as you share in our sufferings, you will also share in our comfort.</td>
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<td>2 Corinthians 2:14–16</td>
<td>14 But thanks be to God, who in Christ always leads us in triumphal procession, and through us spreads the fragrance of the knowledge of him everywhere. 15 For we are the aroma of Christ to God among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing, 16 to one a fragrance from death to death, to the other a fragrance from life to life. Who is sufficient for these things?</td>
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<td>2 Corinthians 9:12–15</td>
<td>12 For the ministry of this service is not only supplying the needs of the saints but is also overflowing in many thanksgivings to God. 13 By their approval of this service, they will glorify God because of your submission that comes from your confession of the gospel of Christ, and the generosity of your contribution for them and for all others, 14 while they long for you and pray for you, because of the surpassing grace of God upon you. 15 Thanks be to God for his inexpressible gift!</td>
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<td>2 Corinthians 13:7–9</td>
<td>7 But we pray to God that you may not do wrong—not that we may appear to have met the test, but that you may do what is right, though we may seem to have failed. 8 For we cannot do anything against the truth, but only for the truth. 9 For we are glad when we are weak and you are strong. Your restoration is what we pray for.</td>
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<td>Galatians 6:18</td>
<td>The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit, brothers. Amen.</td>
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<td>Ephesians 1:3–5</td>
<td>3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, 4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love 5 he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,</td>
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<td>Ephesians 1:15–23</td>
<td>15 For this reason, because I have heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love toward all the saints, 16 I do not cease to give thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers, 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him, 18 having the eyes of your hearts enlightened, that you may know what is the hope to which he has called you, what are the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, 19 and what is the immeasurable greatness of his power toward us who believe, according to the working of his great might 20 that he worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places, 21 far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. 22 And he put all things under his feet and gave him as head over all things to the church,23 which is his body, the fullness of him who fills all in all.</td>
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<td>Ephesians 3:14–21</td>
<td>14 For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, 15 from whom every family in heaven and on earth is named, 16 that according to the riches of his glory he may grant you to be strengthened with power through his Spirit in your inner being, 17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith—that you, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 may have strength to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, 19 and to know the love of Christ that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God. 20 Now to him who is able to do far more abundantly than all that we ask or think, according to the power at work within us, 21 to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, forever and ever. Amen.</td>
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<td>Ephesians 6:19–20</td>
<td>19 and also for me, that words may be given to me in opening my mouth boldly to proclaim the mystery of the gospel, 20 for which I am an ambassador in chains, that I may declare it boldly, as I ought to speak.</td>
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<td>Philippians 1:3–6</td>
<td>3 I thank my God in all my remembrance of you, 4 always in every prayer of mine for you all making my prayer with joy, 5 because of your partnership in the gospel from the first day until now. 6 And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.</td>
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<td>Philippians 1:9–11</td>
<td>9 And it is my prayer that your love may abound more and more, with knowledge and all discernment, 10 so that you may approve what is excellent, and so be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, 11 filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.</td>
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<td>Philippians 4:6–7</td>
<td>6 do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. 7 And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.</td>
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<td>Philippians 4:23</td>
<td>The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit.</td>
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<td>Colossians 1:3–14</td>
<td>3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, 4 since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and of the love that you have for all the saints, 5 because of the hope laid up for you in heaven. Of this you have heard before in the word of the truth, the gospel, 6 which has come to you, as indeed in the whole world it is bearing fruit and increasing—as it also does among you, since the day you heard it and understood the grace of God in truth, 7 just as you learned it from Epaphras our beloved fellow servant. He is a faithful minister of Christ on your behalf 8 and has made known to us your love in the Spirit. 9 And so, from the day we heard, we have not ceased to pray for you, asking that you may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, 10 so as to walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing to him, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God. 11 May you be strengthened with all power, according to his glorious might, for all endurance and patience with joy, 12 giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the saints in light. 13 He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, 14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.</td>
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<td>Colossians 4:2–4</td>
<td>2 Continue steadfastly in prayer, being watchful in it with thanksgiving. 3 At the same time, pray also for us, that God may open to us a door for the word, to declare the mystery of Christ, on account of which I am in prison— 4 that I may make it clear, which is how I ought to speak.</td>
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<td>1 Thessalonians 1:2–3</td>
<td>2 We give thanks to God always for all of you, constantly mentioning you in our prayers, 3 remembering before our God and Father your work of faith and labor of love and steadfastness of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ.</td>
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<td>1 Thessalonians 2:13–16</td>
<td>13 And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God, which is at work in you believers. 14 For you, brothers, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea. For you suffered the same things from your own countrymen as they did from the Jews, 15 who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out, and displease God and oppose all mankind 16 by hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles that they might be saved—so as always to fill up the measure of their sins. But wrath has come upon them at last!</td>
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<td>1 Thessalonians 3:9–13</td>
<td>9 For what thanksgiving can we return to God for you, for all the joy that we feel for your sake before our God, 10 as we pray most earnestly night and day that we may see you face to face and supply what is lacking in your faith? 11 Now may our God and Father himself, and our Lord Jesus, direct our way to you, 12 and may the Lord make you increase and abound in love for one another and for all, as we do for you, 13 so that he may establish your hearts blameless in holiness before our God and Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus with all his saints.</td>
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<td>1 Thessalonians 5:23–24</td>
<td>23 Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 He who calls you is faithful; he will surely do it.</td>
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<td>1 Thessalonians 5:28</td>
<td>The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.</td>
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<td>2 Thessalonians 1:3–5</td>
<td>3 We ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers, as is right, because your faith is growing abundantly, and the love of every one of you for one another is increasing. 4 Therefore we ourselves boast about you in the churches of God for your steadfastness and faith in all your persecutions and in the afflictions that you are enduring. 5 This is evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are also suffering—</td>
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<td>2 Thessalonians 1:11–12</td>
<td>11 To this end we always pray for you, that our God may make you worthy of his calling and may fulfill every resolve for good and every work of faith by his power, 12 so that the name of our Lord Jesus may be glorified in you, and you in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.</td>
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<td>2 Thessalonians 2:16–17</td>
<td>16 Now may our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God our Father, who loved us and gave us eternal comfort and good hope through grace, 17 comfort your hearts and establish them in every good work and word.</td>
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<td>2 Thessalonians 3:2–5</td>
<td>2 and that we may be delivered from wicked and evil men. For not all have faith. 3 But the Lord is faithful. He will establish you and guard you against the evil one. 4 And we have confidence in the Lord about you, that you are doing and will do the things that we command. 5 May the Lord direct your hearts to the love of God and to the steadfastness of Christ.</td>
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<td>2 Thessalonians 3:16</td>
<td>Now may the Lord of peace himself give you peace at all times in every way. The Lord be with you all.</td>
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<td>1 Timothy 1:12</td>
<td>I thank him who has given me strength, Christ Jesus our Lord, because he judged me faithful, appointing me to his service,</td>
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<td>1 Timothy 2:1–3</td>
<td>1 First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, 2 for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. 3 This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior,</td>
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<td>2 Timothy 1:3–7</td>
<td>3 I thank God whom I serve, as did my ancestors, with a clear conscience, as I remember you constantly in my prayers night and day. 4 As I remember your tears, I long to see you, that I may be filled with joy. 5 I am reminded of your sincere faith, a faith that dwelt first in your grandmother Lois and your mother Eunice and now, I am sure, dwells in you as well. 6 For this reason I remind you to fan into flame the gift of God, which is in you through the laying on of my hands, 7 for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.</td>
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<td>2 Timothy 1:16–18</td>
<td>16 May the Lord grant mercy to the household of Onesiphorus, for he often refreshed me and was not ashamed of my chains, 17 but when he arrived in Rome he searched for me earnestly and found me— 18 may the Lord grant him to find mercy from the Lord on that Day!—and you well know all the service he rendered at Ephesus.</td>
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<td>2 Timothy 4:22</td>
<td>The Lord be with your spirit. Grace be with you.</td>
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<td>Titus 3:15</td>
<td>All who are with me send greetings to you. Greet those who love us in the faith. Grace be with you all.</td>
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<td>Philemon 4–7</td>
<td>4 I thank my God always when I remember you in my prayers, 5 because I hear of your love and of the faith that you have toward the Lord Jesus and for all the saints, 6 and I pray that the sharing of your faith may become effective for the full knowledge of every good thing that is in us for the sake of Christ. 7 For I have derived much joy and comfort from your love, my brother, because the hearts of the saints have been refreshed through you.</td>
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<td>Philemon 25</td>
<td>The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit.</td>
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		<title>Death by Love: Mark Driscoll &#038; Gerry Breshears</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you&#8217;ve been a Christian long enough, you&#8217;ve probably memorised verses about Jesus being our ransom. You&#8217;ll willingly die in defense of penal substitution. You might even know what propitiation means. Yet if your honest you probably haven&#8217;t understood how these doctrines affect you. In one of the best recent books on the cross, Mark [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>Yet if your honest you probably haven&#8217;t understood how these doctrines affect you.</p>
<p>In one of the <strong>best recent books on the cross</strong>, Mark Driscoll and Gerry Breshears tackle these issues in an immensely practical way. The writers take a topic of the cross (i.e. propitation, expiation, Christus Victor) and apply it to a real life situation. This makes it eminently readable and immensely practical.</p>
<p>If you wanted to read about the cross, but you&#8217;ve been put off by weighty doctrine, this is the book for you. It&#8217;ll explain the doctrines simply and apply them powerfully.</p>
<p><span id="more-414"></span></p>
<h3>The Argument of the Book</h3>
<p>Driscoll and Breshears see the message of the cross as relevant for all areas of life. They write to people in many situations (including paedophiles, those investigating Christianity and those who have to forgive adultery) The doctrines of the cross are explained and applied to their situation.</p>
<p>After each of these sections Dr Breshears answers some common questions about the doctrine used to tackle this situation.</p>
<h3>Primary Audience &amp; Purpose</h3>
<p>Each letter has a particular person in mind (someone Driscoll has actually met in councelling sessions). The idea is to apply a doctrine of the cross to some aspect of their life.</p>
<h3>Literary Features of the Book</h3>
<p>Writing in letters and FAQs, this book is incredibly readable. My fiancée raves about this being one of the few theology books she actually understood. Yet it is also deep and challenging.</p>
<h3>Is it Biblical?</h3>
<p>Yes. Their approach is soaked in Scripture. The only things that leave me uncertain are &#8220;Unlimited Limited Atonement&#8221; and the idea of demon possession (which is too easily presumed, they don&#8217;t spend long enough defending their view from scripture).</p>
<p>However, they don&#8217;t let the various doctrines of the cross compete against each other. Nor do they undermine the centrality of penal substitution in the death of Christ. Their approach is not only biblical in content but in discussing importance.</p>
<h3>Does it Apply Truth?</h3>
<p>The whole point of the book is to apply truth. Some may worry whether we can apply the truth to ourselves, as the characters tend to be extreme cases (few haven&#8217;t been raped or involved in drugs). But in a way this means that no one can say &#8220;my situation is a special case&#8221;. It applies to all from the extreme to the normal</p>
<h3>Is it Christ Centred?</h3>
<p>The whole book centres around the cross. The person and work of Jesus is clear. It sees Jesus as the solution to every problem. You can&#8217;t get much better than that. (<a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1433501295?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=christcentred-21&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1634&amp;creative=6738&amp;creativeASIN=1433501295">Buy it in the UK</a>)</p>
<h3>Other Reviews</h3>
<p><a title="Reformed Firehouse's Review" href="http://theviewfromthefirehouse.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/death-by-love-by-mark-driscoll-and-gerry-breshears/">Reformed Firehouse</a></p>
<p><a title="Finitum Non Capax Infiniti" href="http://aboulet.com/2008/10/04/mark-driscoll-death-by-love/">Finitum Non Capax Infiniti</a></p>
<p><a title="Heady Musings" href="http://headymusings.wordpress.com/2009/01/28/book-review-death-by-love/">Heady Musings</a></p>
<p><a title="The Christian Manifesto" href="http://thechristianmanifesto.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/death-by-love-a-review/">The Christian Manifesto</a></p>
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		<title>If Christ Was Real…He Wouldn’t Send People to Hell</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A place of burning fire, likened to the loss of an only child. Hell is a horrific place. No wonder, this doctrine puts people off Christianity. Emotionally, the idea is so disgusting we want to never hear it again. Logically, it seems utterly inconsistent that Christ could send people to hell. Surely a loving God [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>No wonder, this doctrine puts people off Christianity.</p>
<p>Emotionally, the idea is so disgusting we want to never hear it again. Logically, it seems utterly inconsistent that Christ could send people to hell.</p>
<p>Surely a loving God can&#8217;t send people to hell?</p>
<p>If Christianity is to stand we must ask this question: is there any way a loving God would allow hell?</p>
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<h3>Hell is Chosen</h3>
<p>Firstly, a loving God could allow hell if we choose to go there.</p>
<p>The ultimate responsibility for going to hell lies with us. True, God decides to punish sin, but that doesn&#8217;t mean he is ultimately responsible. If I murdered a child nobody would blame the judge for me rotting in jail. They&#8217;d say it was my own fault.</p>
<p>So it is with us. We chose to rebel and therefore we are responsible for being in hell. God lets us have what we want. An eternity without him. We just don&#8217;t realise now how painful that is.</p>
<h3>Hell is Just</h3>
<p>Secondly, a loving God could allow hell if it was a just thing to send people there.</p>
<p>Many think that disobeying God&#8217;s law doesn&#8217;t deserve hell.  Surely, a loving God could never condemn us according to this!</p>
<p>Yet he could for two good reasons:</p>
<ul>
<li><em>We shun a law that is always good:</em> God gives us commands that make life better. Even people who complain God is unjust agree we should love our neighbours as ourselves. This is a law God created! His laws are all good laws and so it is loving that he enforces them.</li>
<li><em>We accept a life that is always hurtful: </em>Our sin has tremendous consequences. Why do people cry? Why do people commit suicide? Why do people starve for lack of food? Because people like us abuse them our whole lives. God must punish us if he is loving to those we hurt. If he allowed people who hurt others as much as we have to go to his new creation, then frankly he isn&#8217;t loving at all!</li>
</ul>
<p>For God to be a loving God he must be just, he must be fair. Hell is the ultimate sign of his justice and his justice shows us his love.</p>
<h3>Hell is Hated</h3>
<p>Thirdly, a loving God could allow hell if it was something he hated.</p>
<p>If God sends sinners to hell with sadistic glee, he isn&#8217;t loving. Yet hear this:</p>
<blockquote><p>As I live, declares the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked</p>
<p><strong>Ezekiel 33:11 (ESV)</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>God does not enjoy hell. In his love he laments over those going there. Therefore, how can we say hell disproves his love?</p>
<h3>Hell is Love Revealed</h3>
<p>Fourthly, a loving God could allow hell if it provided a way to reveal his love.</p>
<p>How does hell provide a way for God to reveal his love?</p>
<p>You and I deserve hell. If God is creating a perfect world, sinners like us don&#8217;t deserve to be there.</p>
<p>Yet the crazy thing is I won&#8217;t be going to hell. Why? Because Christ died in my place. He said that he would die on my behalf. He would go through the punishment of hell that I deserved.</p>
<p>That isn&#8217;t to say Jesus literally went to a place called hell. But he had the wrath of God poured out on him on the cross, and that is what hell truly is.</p>
<p>What absolute love that shows! That he would go through hell for us! All we have to do is repent of our sin and have faith in Christ and our sin is forgotten. How loving is that?</p>
<p>Hell reveals the love of God, for it shows what he was willing to do to save us. A loving God could allow hell for he would allow it to reveal the love he has for us.</p>
<h3>Over to You</h3>
<p>What are your problems with hell? Do you think it disproves the existence of God? What do you think of the God who went through hell to save us from sins?</p>
<p>P.S. Tim Keller&#8217;s Reason for God was really helpful in answering this question.</p>
<p><strong><em>This Series:<br />
</em></strong>If Christ Was Real… Answering four arguments that Christ cannot exist (Originally discussed at <a href="http://bridgingschisms.org/">BridgingSchisms.org</a>).</p>
<p><a title="Read this post" href="http://christcentred.org/2009/01/29/if-christ-was-realhe-wouldnt-have-such-awful-followers/">1. If Christ was real&#8230;he wouldn&#8217;t have such awful followers.</a><br />
2. If Christ was real&#8230;he wouldn&#8217;t send people to hell. (this post)<br />
<a title="Read this Post" href="http://christcentred.org/2009/02/18/if-christ-was-realhe-wouldnt-judge-us-according-to-an-unjust-law/">3. If Christ was real&#8230;he wouldn&#8217;t judge us according to an unjust law</a><br />
4. If Christ was real&#8230;he wouldn&#8217;t call me &#8220;sinner&#8221;. (coming soon)</p>
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		<title>3 Reasons Why I Love the Church</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 07:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>&#8220;I love Jesus but I hate the Church.&#8221; she said defiantly &#8220;The Church causes nothing but pain. I&#8217;m going to learn about Jesus on my own.&#8221;</p>
<p>These were the words of a girl I was discussing Christianity with. Clearly, she had not had the best experience of the church. As upsetting as it is she&#8217;s not alone.</p>
<p>Maybe you&#8217;re like this girl. Maybe you keep away from the Church thinking it has nothing to offer but hurt. Maybe you do attend Sunday service, but the Church has hurt you so bad you&#8217;ve lost the love you had at first.</p>
<p>Why should you love the Church. What does it have to offer?</p>
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<h3>The Church Loves Jesus</h3>
<p>The Church is obsessed with Jesus. They preach, sing and shout about him. If you want to grow as a Christian, you can learn loads from these Jesus-lovers:</p>
<ul>
<li><em>You can hear the Gospel</em>: When you became a Christian someone from the Church was communicating the Gospel to you (whether that was in the preached or the written word). The Church 	loves Jesus so much it shares the Gospel, and it has shared it with 	you. If the Church has shared the most valuable gift, why do you shun them?</li>
<li><em>You can see inspiring models:</em> My church is full of older saints (anyone who can&#8217;t say that is 	missing out). Gathering their practical and doctrinal experience and 	seeing the spirituality of their life is incredibly challenging for 	my life.</li>
<li><em>You can delve deeper into Jesus:</em> The teaching of the Church (from the pulpit and the pews) will show 	you more than you could have seen in a lifetime of study. 2000 years 	of Church teaching is delivered to you to build from. You will see 	many aspects of Christ that you never saw or never realised how 	beautiful they were.</li>
</ul>
<h3>The Church Loves People Who Love Jesus</h3>
<p>However it is not just that the Church loves Jesus. You won&#8217;t just look on from the outside and see some good examples. The Church will actively come and seek you out to bless you in a number of ways.</p>
<ul>
<li><em>The Church encourages Christians:</em> When you are downhearted, you need someone to encourage you and lift 	you up. The Church will do a much better job than anyone else. They 	will encourage you in Christ! They will make Jesus the foundation of 	your joy in sorrow and how much better that is.</li>
<li><em>The Church rebukes Christians: </em>This 	may not sound exciting. However, if you are going off the rails 	wouldn&#8217;t you want someone to pull you back? The Church won&#8217;t let you 	fall into immorality, away from Jesus. We all stumble, the 	Church is  themeans by which God lifts us up.</li>
<li><em>The Church provides opportunities to 	Christians:</em> Whatever your gifts 	are (preaching, singing, hospitality) the church will encourage them 	and provide opportunities for you to share the gifts God has given 	you.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Jesus Loves the Church</h3>
<p>Yet the best reason of all is Jesus loves the Church. He died for her and gave himself up for her. He calls her his bride. She is his most treasured possession.</p>
<p>If you love Jesus you must love the Church. He won&#8217;t let you do otherwise.</p>
<p>&#8220;But sometimes the Church can fall short. Sometimes it really hurts me.&#8221; That is true and no one knows it better than him. When he was weeping in Gethsemane, where was the Church to help him?</p>
<p>Yet Jesus still love them, still gave himself up for them.</p>
<p>Whether you like it or not (if Jesus died for you) you are a part of that Church. Why not get involved and learn to love the Church as much as Jesus does?</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[They couldn&#8217;t believe it was him. As the news story unfolded, the Pastor realised the latest paedophile pastor was a man they knew from Bible college. &#8220;He seemed so strong in the faith!&#8221; they exclaimed to each other. They&#8217;d have never thought that this could be true. With men like this around, it&#8217;s no wonder [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright" title="God Hates You by NoHoDamon" src="https://i0.wp.com/farm4.static.flickr.com/3132/2774056326_ff3650b63e_m.jpg" alt="" width="154" height="192" />They couldn&#8217;t believe it was him. As the news story unfolded, the Pastor realised the latest paedophile pastor was a man they knew from Bible college.</p>
<p>&#8220;He seemed so strong in the faith!&#8221; they exclaimed to each other. They&#8217;d have never thought that this could be true.</p>
<p>With men like this around, it&#8217;s no wonder people question if Christ is real. Surely if he was real, he wouldn&#8217;t have such awful followers. Doesn&#8217;t this disprove Christianity?</p>
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<h3>1) Not all who claim to be Christ&#8217;s followers are</h3>
<p>Jesus hates hypocrites He seems &#8220;meek and mild&#8221; in the gospels until the Pharisees arrive. They really receive the sharp end of his tongue.</p>
<p>This is the same throughout the Bible. In Amos, God says he hates the Israelites&#8217; religious festivals and demands they stop until he sees &#8220;justice roll down like waters&#8221; (Amos <a title="Read this passage" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=amos+5%3A21-24">5:21-24</a>).</p>
<p>God hates the paedophiles, the witch hunters and the terrorists just as much as you and I. They may claim to be Christians, but God rejects their sacrifice. Will we attribute their sin to a God who hates them?</p>
<h3>2) All Christ&#8217;s Followers Still Sin</h3>
<p>If Christianity claimed believers would be perfect then our faith would be easily disproved. But the fact is some of the worst cases of Christian&#8217;s sin are recorded in the Bible&#8217;s pages (i.e. <a title="Read this passage" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=2+Samuel+11-12%3A14">David&#8217;s adultery</a>).</p>
<p>The Bible testifies that the Holy Spirit must battle Christian&#8217;s sinful desires constantly. Christianity never makes the claim of perfection in its believers. So it is a <a title="What's a straw man?" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man">straw man</a> argument to say because Christians sin Christ can&#8217;t be real. Are you satisfied to criticise Christianity based on attacking a claim it doesn&#8217;t even make?</p>
<p>Indeed, God accepting sinners is one of the great truths of Christianity. If God only accepted the great and good, then you and I would be rejected (with everyone else). But now, everyone has a chance to come into the Kingdom.</p>
<p>The Bible does say Christians will start to display some fruits of the Spirit. Theywil be more loving, they will be more kind and (most of all) they will be more devoted to God. Christians will sin less, not be sinless.</p>
<h3>3) All Christ&#8217;s followers Will Be Redeemed from Sin</h3>
<p>Yet Christ doesn&#8217;t stop there. He doesn&#8217;t save evil men and keep them evil, or only slightly change them. If that was true he wouldn&#8217;t be worth knowing.</p>
<p>Once day Jesus will return. On that day, believers will be purified from wrongdoing for ever.</p>
<p>You might say &#8220;I want a religion that cleanses from all sin now!&#8221;.</p>
<p>Where will you find such a religion? How will it stop the fact your heart makes a beeline straight for sin? By making doing more good works? That&#8217;ll never work, we&#8217;d need an utter heart change to stop sinning.</p>
<p>Christianity teaches only through Jesus dying for sin will we ever be free from it. He is the only reason we can have a little freedom now and utter freedom later.</p>
<p>Why he has made us wait, I don&#8217;t know. But Jesus gives the hope that one day we will be saved.</p>
<p>Does your religion or irreligion have that hope? Is it something you are attracted to? Will your belief stop you from doing what is evil?</p>
<h3>Over to You</h3>
<p>Now I realise that in a desire for a good overview of the issues and brevity I will not have answered all the objections in as detailed manner as people would like. Please comment if you have any objections you would like me to try to answer, or if you are a Christian who would like to add something.</p>
<p><strong><em>This Series:<br />
</em></strong>If Christ Was Real&#8230; Answering four arguments that Christ cannot exist (Originally discussed at <a href="http://bridgingschisms.org/">BridgingSchisms.org</a>).</p>
<p>1. If Christ was real&#8230;he wouldn&#8217;t have such awful followers. (this post)<br />
<a href="http://christcentred.org/2009/02/05/if-christ-was-real%e2%80%a6he-wouldn%e2%80%99t-send-people-to-hell/">2. If Christ was real…he wouldn’t send people to hell</a><br />
<a title="Read this Post" href="http://christcentred.org/2009/02/18/if-christ-was-realhe-wouldnt-judge-us-according-to-an-unjust-law/">3. If Christ was real&#8230;he wouldn&#8217;t judge us according to an unjust law</a><br />
4. If Christ was real&#8230;he wouldn&#8217;t call me &#8220;sinner&#8221;. (coming soon)</p>
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		<title>You Can Make the Difference!</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whenever I speak to people who left the church and renounced God, they speak of the problem of Christian obedience as a massive factor. Soon, after some lively discussions on Eshu&#8217;s blog,  I hope to answer those who say that the church&#8217;s records of evil is a reason to deny God . However, before I [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright" title="Point by a2gemma" src="https://i0.wp.com/farm2.static.flickr.com/1339/1448178195_bff4bcd6c2_m.jpg" alt="" width="192" height="144" />Whenever I speak to people who left the church and renounced God, they speak of the problem of Christian obedience as a massive factor.</p>
<p>Soon, after some lively discussions on Eshu&#8217;s blog,  I hope to answer those who say that the church&#8217;s records of evil is a reason to deny God . However, before I do so I want to talk to the Christians. I want us to realise that living for Christ can be an essential part in the way God saves people.</p>
<p>But before I do that I better get a big misconception out of the way.</p>
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<h3>What Living for Christ Doesn&#8217;t Do</h3>
<p>Almost every Christian has heard the words of St. Francis of Assisi:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Preach the Gospel at all times and when necessary use words&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately, Francis simply do not represent the Christian view of preaching the Gospel. In <a title="Read this passage" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=phil+1%3A15-18&amp;src=esv.org">Philippians 1:15-18</a> Paul talks about a group of people who are preaching the Gospel out of rivalry. What is his response? Joy!</p>
<p>This seems odd and the only reason that this can be is that the Gospel (even through a bad witness) still has the power to save.</p>
<p>Indeed, we find this in <a title="Read this passage" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Romans+10%3A14-15">Romans 10:14-15</a>. This passage is a summary of the essentials of becoming a Christian :</p>
<ul>
<li>You must call on Christ. But this can&#8217;t happen without you:</li>
<li>&#8230;believing in Christ. But this can&#8217;t happen without you:</li>
<li>&#8230;hearing the message. But this can&#8217;t happen without someone:</li>
<li>&#8230;preaching to you. But this can&#8217;t happen unless someone:</li>
<li>&#8230;sends people to preach.</li>
</ul>
<p>Now the only part we have in these &#8220;essentials&#8221; is preaching. Preaching <em>must</em> occur. It isn&#8217;t an optional &#8220;when necessary&#8221;  Notice Paul never says &#8220;And how are they to see Christ unless you live like him?&#8221;. The fact is the only absolute essential in try to get people saved is preaching the message.</p>
<p>Many use living the Gospel as an excuse not to do the hard work of preaching the Gospel. Yet this isn&#8217;t what the Scripture says when it calls us to right living. Living for Christ does not replace telling people the message. Preaching is our primary purpose. Only words can convert</p>
<h3>What Living for Christ Does Do</h3>
<p>Nevertheless, though preaching is essential, it&#8217;s just as bad to undermine the importance of living for Christ. Living for Christ provides a powerful testimony to how the Lord changes lives.</p>
<p>Winning souls can be likened to a football match. In football, unless you score goals, it&#8217;s impossible for you to win. But many other things contribute to you winning the match: tackling, passing, shooting etc. For the most part these skills are very important, even if they aren&#8217;t the most important part. There may be the odd game you win despite playing badly, but they are rare occurances.</p>
<p>Preaching is like scoring goals. It is the only way you can &#8220;win&#8221; a believer (not that preaching always is successful, there are other elements involved in Romans 10). All the other skills are like living for Christ. You can&#8217;t win a game just by living for Christ, you&#8217;ve got to preach. However, living for Christ can have such a powerful effect &#8220;on the game&#8221; that it contributes to winning the game.</p>
<p>Now, you may say &#8220;This is a clever illustration, but is the idea of living for Christ leading to success Biblical&#8221;. Yes! Read 1 Peter 2:12:</p>
<blockquote><p>Keep your conduct among the Gentiles honorable, so that when they speak against you as evildoers, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day of visitation.</p>
<p>1 Peter 2:12 (ESV)</p></blockquote>
<p>Glorifying God on the day he returns means they&#8217;ll be Christians! Your good deeds have some effect in winning people for Christ.</p>
<p>Peter tells us they stop people from being able to say &#8220;Well you are evildoers, you are just as bad as us, you&#8217;re message can&#8217;t be valid&#8221;. It helps prove that the Gospel is true. Your good works make all the difference.</p>
<h3>What This Means For Us Christians</h3>
<p>This means if we are preaching the Gospel we better make sure our actions are up to scratch.</p>
<p>Are you preaching the message to your boss? Better make sure you are a good worker.</p>
<p>Are you preaching the message to your close friend? Better make sure you show your love by keeping in touch.</p>
<p>Are you preaching the message to your child? Better make sure you a kind and fair parent.</p>
<p>Living for Christ does make a difference.</p>
<p>Now what about those who claim to be Christians but have engaged in wars or sexual immorality? Should they stop us believing in Christ? We&#8217;ll talk about that next week&#8230;</p>
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		<title>The Gospel &#038; Personal Evangelism: Mark Dever</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Have you ever wondered how you as a lay person can preach the Gospel to your friends? Or maybe you doubt that evangelism is for you? Perhaps you&#8217;re unsure as to what evangelism really involves. If so, this book is for you. In &#8220;The Gospel &#38; Personal Evangelism&#8221;, Mark Dever teaches what the Bible says [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever wondered how you as a lay person can preach the Gospel to your friends? Or maybe you doubt that evangelism is for you? Perhaps you&#8217;re unsure as to what evangelism really involves.</p>
<p>If so, this book is for you. In &#8220;The Gospel &amp; Personal Evangelism&#8221;, Mark Dever teaches what the Bible says the Gospel is and the methods of evangelism it sets forth. This isn&#8217;t a book for pastors, it is a book that all Christians can read. So short you can read it in no time, this book is a great start if you want to see what evangelism is and how you should do it..</p>
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<h3>The Argument of the Book</h3>
<p>Dever confesses that many Christians either do not evangelise or do not do so in the way they should. Therefore, he considers a number of questions in his chapter headings that may help Christians evangelise more effectively. The chapter headings are:</p>
<ol>
<li>Why Don&#8217;t We Evangelise?</li>
<li>What Is the Gospel?</li>
<li>Who Should Evangelize?</li>
<li>How Should We Evangelize?</li>
<li>What Isn&#8217;t Evangelism?</li>
<li>What Should We Do After We Evangelize?</li>
<li>Why Should We Evangelize?</li>
</ol>
<p>Throughout Dever argues that evangelism is not about numbers, and much less about manipulation. Instead, he argues that the task of the Christian is to faithfully tell the message of Christ&#8217;s death so that people can come to him and be saved from the wrath to come.</p>
<h3>Primary Audience &amp; Purpose</h3>
<p>Whilst there is a &#8220;Word to Pastors&#8221; at the back, the book is written to general church members. Dever is keen that all people in the church see evangelism as their task, and not that of a special few. Dever&#8217;s main purpose is to confirm what the Gospel is and to help us to evangelize in a more effective way.</p>
<h3>Literary Features of the Book</h3>
<p>The book is quite short, making it much more readable for the average member than some others in its genre (i.e. Know and Tell the Gospel). Dever writes in an engaging way, using personal illustrations to punctuate his writing. He is very open about his own struggles and doesn&#8217;t succumb to bashing those he thinks are wrong. He states truth in a warm, loving and interesting way that many readers will enjoy.</p>
<h3>Is it Biblical?</h3>
<p>Dever is constantly trying to point us back to a Biblical reason for doing something. Readers will be glad to know that he defines the Gospel in an orthodox way and fights against some common evangelistic messages that don&#8217;t quite get it right (i.e. &#8220;The Good News Is Not Simply That Jesus Wants to Be Our Friend&#8221;). He also defines evangelism not as imposition, apologetics, social action or personal testimoy but as proclaiming the news of Jesus.</p>
<h3>Does it apply truth?</h3>
<p>The whole book is thoroughly practical and gives lots of ideas for how to do evangelism and how to get opportunities to tell people the Gospel.</p>
<h3>Is it Christ centred?</h3>
<p>Absolutely. Mark Dever doesn&#8217;t fall into the phony Gospels that some are putting forward, but rather is very definite in the fact that the Gospel is Jesus dying to take the punishment for our sins. Evangelism for Dever is about presenting Jesus and not just winning converts. (<a title="Buy The Gospel and Personal Evangelism" href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gospel-Personal-Evangelism-Mark-Dever/dp/1581348460/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1231605486&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank">Buy it UK</a>)</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reading is a powerful gift from God, both to those who are Christians and those who aren&#8217;t. I think most of the people who read this site are avid readers, but sometimes being an avid reader is not enough. When I became a Christian I read like crazy, but most of the books I read [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>Reading is a powerful gift from God, both to those who are Christians and those who aren&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I think most of the people who read this site are avid readers, but sometimes being an avid reader is not enough. When I became a Christian I read like crazy, but most of the books I read had a lot of fluff and not much meat. We need to know the books we read are worth reading.</p>
<p>Ever since I started reading better books, I&#8217;ve appreciated other Christians recommending books for my attention. This is what I plan to do here, with my 10 Books You Should Read in 2009.</p>
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<h3>1. The Bible: Holy Spirit</h3>
<p>Obvious but an essential number one spot. If you&#8217;re a Christian, you need to make sure that you plan what sections of scripture you are going to read and actually study them. (If you struggle with Bible study, give me a shout in the comments and I&#8217;ll post how I go about it for your benefit, as well as some helpful resources). If you&#8217;re not a Christian, this is where all Christian ideas come from so it&#8217;s the best place to start. Start with a Gospel (Matthew, Mark, Luke or John) so you can find out about Jesus and maybe discuss it with a Christian friend. (Remember you don&#8217;t have to fork out for a Bible, you can always read it online. The most common reliable translations are the <a title="Read the NIV" href="http://www.biblegateway.com">NIV</a> and the <a title="Read the ESV" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/browse/">ESV</a>. Avoid paraphrases like the Message. Whilst they have some value, you won&#8217;t be reading the actually words of Scripture).</p>
<h3>2. The Reason for God: Tim Keller</h3>
<p>It&#8217;s often a bad idea to recommend books you haven&#8217;t read, but I&#8217;ve heard a lot of the content for this book online. This book is aimed at non-Christians (but Christians may find it rewarding too). I&#8217;ve found few books for non-Christians have been heartfelt, convincing and not shirking the difficult questions. I&#8217;m told this book is the answer to those problems. If you&#8217;re going to read a book looking into Christianity, you can&#8217;t really go wrong with Tim Killer.</p>
<h3>3. Institutes of the Christian Religion: John Calvin</h3>
<p>It&#8217;s his 500th birthday, come one give him a break! John Calvin was one of the most cross-centred theologians and despite being demonised by half of the Christian world is an amazingly influential and Godly man. Just read it. (<a title="A reading schedule for the institutes" href="http://www.reformation21.org/calvin/2008/12/reading-schedule-for-2009.php">For a reading schedule</a> and <a title="Read the Institutes" href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/calvin/institutes.html">an online translation</a>)</p>
<h3>4. Shadow of the Almighty: Elisabeth Elliot</h3>
<p>The value of a biography for a Christian is immense.  It is important not only to find out truths but see them lived out. This book is the diary of murdered missionary John Elliot, tracing his life all the way through University right onto the mission field. It is an inspiration, especially if you&#8217;re still at Uni. (<a title="Read my review of this book" href="https://christcentred.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/shadow-of-the-almighty-jim-elliot/">My review</a>)</p>
<h3>5. Pilgrim&#8217;s Progress: John Bunyan</h3>
<p>Christian missionaries first translate the Bible and then translate Pilgrim&#8217;s Progress, it&#8217;s that good. It&#8217;s a novel, so is much easier to read than some of the doctrinal books, and it is a really challenging allegory of the Christian life. You will see yourself in Christian and Christiana and be challenged to live in a way that is glorifying to God. You can access it online <a title="Read Pilgrim's Progress" href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/bunyan/pilgrim.toc.html">here</a>.</p>
<h3>6. Knowing God: J.I. Packer</h3>
<p>This is one of the best introductions to theology I&#8217;ve ever read. It will really warm your heart to the character of God, in many areas where you wouldn&#8217;t necessary expect to. The jealousy of God is something that was shown to be a real blessing to me through this book. If you haven&#8217;t read it I&#8217;d advise you do. However don&#8217;t bother with the study guide, it doesn&#8217;t add any value.</p>
<h3>7. Death by Love: Mark Driscoll &amp; Gerry Breashears</h3>
<p>The slot for &#8220;cross book&#8221; has changed 3 times in my draft of this post. After having just read through Death by Love I can confirm that this is my favourite pastoral book on the cross at the moment. Mark Driscoll takes real people (non-Christian and Christian) that he&#8217;s had counselling sessions with and uses various doctrines of the cross to write a letter to their specific need. It is brilliant. I was worried that with the structure of this book it might undermine the centrality of substitution and justification; but none of the letters (as far as I remember) don&#8217;t go back to these core truths. Moreover at the end of each section Breshears answers some theological questions that arise. This is an easy read, very through and very practical. Christian or non-Christian, familiar with these doctrines or not, I think this is definitely a book you should read. A review will be forthcoming.</p>
<h3>8. Bruised Reed: Richard Sibbes</h3>
<p>This book had an incredible effect on my life. It is a warm pious book aimed particularly at those who are lacking assurance. Though it is an old book, the Puritan Paperback version has updated the language making this an easy book to read. Short and oh so sweet I would heartily advise you to read it. (<a title="Read my review of this book" href="https://christcentred.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/the-bruised-reed-richard-sibbes/">My review</a>)</p>
<h3>9. God&#8217;s Big Picture: Vaughan Roberts</h3>
<p>The entire Bible points us to Christ. If that idea is new to you, read this book.With helpful activies, it gives a good overall scope to the Bible and shows how it is fulfilled in Christ. I&#8217;ve heard of friends giving this to non-Christians, and if you are a non-Christian wanting to go further into scripture than the Gospels this will be an immense help in seemingly weird books (like Leviticus).</p>
<h3>10. Christ-centered Preaching: Bryan Chapell</h3>
<p>This is really one for preachers. Again one I haven&#8217;t read, but I have listened to the <a title="Listen to the lectures" href="http://www.biblicaltraining.org/class.php?class=PR600">incredible lectures</a> on Biblical Training. If you are going to preach this year make sure that you have either read this book or listened to the lectures. It features good practical approaches to preaching, as well as explaining how to make Christ the centre of all your sermons.</p>
<h3>Special Mentions:</h3>
<p>If you are looking for a commentary for a book on the Bible, buy Tremper Longman&#8217;s Old Testament Commentary Survey and D.A. Carson&#8217;s New Testament Commentary Survey so you know exactly what your getting. The lists at <a title="Read this article" href="http://www.denverseminary.edu/resources/the-denver-journal/articles2003/0100/0101.php/">Denver</a>, <a title="Read this article" href="http://www.wtsbooks.com/category-exec/category_id/506/nm/Staff_20Picks_3A_20Commentaries">Westminster</a>, <a title="Read this article" href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/Articles/ByDate/2006/1620_What_commentaries_does_DG_recommend/">Desiring God</a> and <a title="Read this article" href="http://www.bestcommentaries.com/">BestCommentarie</a>s are helpful too, but not as thorough as the books.</p>
<h3>Over to You</h3>
<p>So what about you? What books do you think I must read in 2009? (Even if you&#8217;re not a Christian I&#8217;d be interested to hear your suggestions)</p>
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